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    They might be a hater, but they’re not a bigot. Respect lol

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      Reminds me of that post about two lesbians kissing on a subway in NY and this dude says, 'Man can’t yall keep that nasty shit at home?"

      And when we sees people are staring at him, he goes, “OH no I’m not homophobic, I’m just a hater.”

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      I feel like he is getting a bad rap here. I mean, he had a gender change to convincingly play female characters in Juno, Inception, and Hard Candy, among others.

      Talk about a method actor, let’s see Christain Bale do that…

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      Basically me. I cannot stand Elliots acting personally but like I like/dislike a lot of stuff no one else does so whatever. Always disliked him since the Juno days. But I dislike HIM.

      TERF haters are dumb as fuck. What’s the point of hating someone if you’re hating something you made up about them? Congratulations, you’re deluded. Might as well hate Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind because it had a cameo from Jeffrey Epstein, you lobotomized twatwaffle.

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          What’s the point of hating […] if you’re hating something you made up […] ?

          Might as well hate Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind because it had a cameo from Jeffrey Epstein

          My text wasn’t super clear but I was saying that people who make shit up about things and then hate it for that reason are silly. I then made up a ridiculous thing about a great movie. A movie I refuse to ever watch again but still.

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            Oh, I thought you meant the movie actually had an Epstein cameo and I somehow never noticed lol

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              For real. Something that blew my mind though… years after the Spacey thing I finally saw the face of the person who made the accusations against him first.

              When I first heard the accusations I had no idea who the person was.

              But after watching Star Trek: Discovery for a couple years, I was floored to find out that Stamets was the one who called out Kevin Spacey. My favorite Trek character called out my former favorite actor and ruined his career.

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                Spacey ruined his own career.

                Fucking Pay it Forward got ruined to by the way. I just said pay it forward to someone earlier today out of habit

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                  You’re aight if you don’t click the disambiguation link

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_forward

                  I think we can keep Pay It Forward, I don’t think I knew it was a film much less an abuser-starring film.

                  The concept is old, but the particular phrase may have been coined by Lily Hardy Hammond in her 1916 book In the Garden of Delight. Robert Heinlein’s 1951 novel Between Planets helped popularize the phrase.

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            A movie I refuse to ever watch again but still.

            Oh, I’m not the only one who can’t watch Eternal Sunshine again? Used to be one of my favorite films…

            Crazy how things can be tied so strongly to memories… Particularly when it’s a poignant piece of art that is far too relatable. Charlie Kaufman is a genius.

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              Immediately after finishing it I knew I’d never watch it again. Same thing with We Need To Talk About Kevin or Dear Zachary. That last one is a documentary about where I’m from but still. Somethings you only need to see once. Anything more than that is pain. That’s how Eternal Sunshine came out for me. Beautiful in its tragedy but the beauty comes from the pain. I deal with my own stuff as is. Watching movies like that a second time causes me so much anxiety and grief.

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                “The act of killing” plays that role for me. The most amazing movie I have ever watched, but I’ve just been able to watch it a handful of times. Haven’t gathered the courage to watch the follow up, “The look of silence” yet.

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                I’ve watched it countless times… Like I said, used to be a favorite. Then my brain decided to attach it to the memory of someone that I miss dearly…

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                  That’s fair. Sorry, my brain is misfiring a lot this morning on stuff I’m mis-reading. That was Weekend for me…

                  Sending nothing but love your way <3

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        I haven’t seen a lot of his movies, but I thought his acting in the first season of Umbrella Academy was really good. To each their own I guess.

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          They were basically just an unsure outcast questioning who they could be.

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    They’re already casting for Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey? I didn’t even know they’d done Christopher Nolan’s The Iliad yet!

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    Hate someone for being a bad actor or a bad person but don’t attack based on gender identity. That isn’t attacking them, it’s marginalizing many many innocent people, and it makes them a victim.

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      What we need to do is to invent a new racial group. Let’s invent a new ethnic/racial group from whole cloth, one that no living human could be mistaken for. Then, we spread all sorts of viscous propaganda against that made-up group. We’ll get everyone to project all their insecurities and racism onto this one group that doesn’t actually exist. We’ll create deepfakes of them committing crimes. We’ll have politicians lie about them invading the country and stealing resources. We’ll declare them a secret hidden menace against the whole civilized world. We can all just hate on the imaginary people, and no real people need suffer from racism.

      We’ll solve racism…with racism! /s

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      Sorry, you’re not included.
      I hope you have a great super fun day.

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    I didn’t like his book, either. He comes off as weird, like red flags weird. If you want a gripping memoir by a trans person, I suggest README.TXT by Chelsea Manning, great book.

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    The casting for this movie is a disaster in general. Zendaya can’t act for shit unless she’s playing a deeply sarcastic character who rolls their eyes every 40 seconds. She was astonishingly bad in Dune.

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      I now am a believer in the many worlds hypothesis. Clearly we have seen very different movies.

      I loved her in Dune. She made the character very believable.

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        She’s the only character I completely disliked the casting for. She is supposed to be strong, threatening, and brilliant. In the first movie she sort of is, but she is a wimpy gossip in the second movie. If I remember correctly Paul is afraid of her through the first book (2 movies), that barely translated into the movies.

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          Okay so cut me some slack because it’s been a few years since I read it (despite it being my favorite book) but it seemed like she was tougher and more independent in the movie than what I remember from the book

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            Yeah that sounds right to me as well. At least if we’re talking about the first book, she barely had a personality at all. Hell, I liked the book enough to read it multiple times, but sometimes I don’t know how Herbert wrote 400 pages and only managed to flesh out like 5 characters.

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        Fair enough. The casting of those movies made them hard for me to enjoy. Chalamet is almost as irritating lol.

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      There are so many other great picks though. It’s an ensemble story with several arcs where few characters actually stick around for the entire run. If you don’t like an actor, there’s like a 90% chance they won’t be a factor for very long, especially Zendaya who’s likely one of the many characters they meet along the way.

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    I have to agree here. He’s like a less charismatic Keanu Reeves. There’s no nostalgia there either for great movies of the past. Just terrible.

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    oh weird, I’m somewhat opposite – not a fan of the person themselves and the fame circle surrounding them, but I think they’re a decent actor with a good sense of subtlety and pathos.

    Same with Tom Cruise. Could not give a shit about the person IRL, but very good actor.

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      Shit I find Tom Cruise to be an abhorrent person, but I do love me some Mission Impossible.

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        Shit I find Tom Cruise to be an abhorrent person,

        How is he an abhorrent person? I mean, beyond shilling for Scientology, which is itself abhorrent…

        Everyone I’ve ever heard describe Tom Cruise as a person has only had nice things to say about him. Like to a weird/suspicious extent even lol.

        Like he sends people delicious cakes in the mail and shit.

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          He’s a poster child for a literal cult. The Mrs and I make a point of never watching or paying for anything he’s in. If everyone did that, no director would cast him and he might just leave the cult (or no longer be as powerful a figure).

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              I dont think you googled the right thing. Try the parts where he tried to have his then wife under control by refusing to let her freely use her cellphone

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                I don’t think you googled the right thing

                I literally searched using the keywords you said to… Didn’t use google though. next time can you just say the message you want to convey?

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    After seeing them in the umbrella academy…while I don’t think they’re the worst actor ever, he definitely could do with some more lessons

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    i don’t have anything to say about the movie since i have no idea what it’s about.

    but i will say, i SO want elliot to do another series of gaycation because i loved it so much and it’d be great to revisit or plan out more places (except sadly it might be even more dangerous with the increase in homophobia around the world :()

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    And here I was thinking the ‘he’ was malicious misgendering. I don’t even know what to say about that.

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      No, that’s the odd charm of the comment. They just don’t like his acting 😂