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  • There is significant evidence that people who have undergone male puberty have an advantage

    No, you linking the Wikipedia page for Olympic records isn’t evidence of that, because we aren’t talking about cis men. We’re talking about trans women who have medically transitioned. You are not prepared to have a conversation about this if you are grouping these groups together, because medically they are not the same.

    I don’t get why this is controversial.

    Because it’s an insanely restrictive policy for no reason against an incredibly tiny minority that had already been allowed to compete at the Olympic level for over a decade before a trans athlete ever won a medal, and it was a nonbinary athlete who hadn’t transitioned and played on a team sport of their assigned gender. If this is as huge an issue as people want to pretend we would have seen the elimination of cis women in sports by now.

    If HRT is responsible for lowering testosterone which removes the advantage, then how long does it take to become effective?

    RTFA.

    Elbers et al. expanded on this research by exploring the effects of oestrogen supplements and androgen deprivation on fat distribution and thigh muscle mass (by using magnetic resonance imaging) in 20 transgender female individuals. They found that 12 months after cross-sex hormone treatment, transgender female individuals had a more feminine pattern of adiposity and their thigh muscles had decreased.

    Should a woman who started taking HRT yesterday be able to compete in women’s sports

    You are inventing a scenario in your head to pearl clutch about, because this doesn’t happen outside of co-ed sports or elementary school sports with kids who haven’t undergone puberty. Anyone who tells you it does is lying.

    How can we verify that an individual isn’t stopping HRT or abusing their medication to obtain an advantage?

    Trans athletes already get blood tested for their hormone levels.

    Seriously, all these “reasonable points” you think you have were addressed decades ago by sports governing bodies, and trans people had been quietly living their lives the whole time. You just didn’t notice it because Republicans were focusing on gay people then. Don’t fall for the bullshit.


  • I appreciate what you’re saying, but this is not a misleading hit piece. This is written by a prominent trans journalist (if you’ve seen the trans legislative risk map, that’s her) who is married to a high profile trans state representative (Zooey Zephyr).

    You may not like her interpretations of his statements, but they come from a place of familiarity with the political scene for trans people both as a reporter and as a trans person. She has a high reputation with a lot of the trans community who follow political news, and calling her work a hit piece is unreasonable.


  • To what extent that these change when a person transitions is unknown

    You just replied to a post with several studies about exactly that.

    On top of that, you are ignoring the balance of justice and ethics here. Unless there is significant evidence that having undergone male puberty prior to transition (this already doesn’t describe all trans women athletes) gives a significant advantage, fairness dictates that trans women should be included in women’s sports. The harm done isn’t justifiable by a “maybe.”


  • The issues where Gavin pointed out alignment were regarding trans athletes in sports, in particular the competitive advantages ftm [sic] athletes possess, and whether or not the state should pay for gender reassignment for inmates

    Oh, is that all. 🙄 Yeah man, it’s a really hard question on whether trans people deserve to participate as full members of society and whether they deserve medically necessary care when imprisoned before a trial. I bet the KKK has some really interesting points to make too, we should get him to do an interview with them.

    Oh, he also agreed with Kirk on no treatment for trans youth.

    Kirk continued, “Youth should be off limits, you might be right on deportations, I know I’m right on this,” to which Newsom simply acknowledged, "Yeah.”

    But other than all that I’m sure he definitely for sure has the best interest of trans people in mind!











  • The report found that the 36 major fossil fuel companies, including Saudi Aramco, Coal India, ExxonMobil, Shell and numerous Chinese companies, produced coal, oil and gas responsible for more than 20bn tonnes of CO2 emissions in 2023.

    [ . . . ]

    The 36 companies are dominated by state-owned enterprises, of which there are 25. Ten of these are in China, the world’s biggest polluting country. Coal was the source of 41% of the emissions counted in 2023, oil 32%, gas 23% and cement 4%.

    Based on the inclusion of coal and gas, it sounds like this was measuring things burned for energy. I can’t imagine they were going for lifetime emissions of all products if coal is the clear leader (is that globally or for China? The sentence structure is ambiguous to me).