As you may know, I moved to using my blahaj.zone account almost exclusively, as I kinda disliked the vibe I was getting from .world. At the same time, I also want to gage the feelings people have about the migration. Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world? Are you happy with the change? I want to hear from you:
It makes me so sad, and the bottom image is an accurate representation of how I feel about it. It sucks that they made this decision without involving the community at all, and even though they say they’re on good terms with Ada, some of the comment chains in the announcement post make me think that there’s some bitterness on the mods’ part. Ada has always been so nice and patient, even when 196 clogged up Blahaj’s entire frontpage, or when it didn’t have enough mods to handle a growing community. And if the mods don’t like how an instance is run, what gives them the right to just take the entire community and move it somewhere else?
I came to Lemmy when Reddit committed to their API nonsense, and it always had this promise of being better than Reddit. Decentralisation was a big part of that promise. Moving 196 to the largest (I think?) Lemmy instance is the opposite of that. Blahaj feels small, local, cosy, and welcoming, like small concerts in some guy’s basement. 196 always had the same vibes, and the move to .world will probably change that. That scares me because I really liked these vibes.
idk, I’m just rambling and none of it makes a whole lot of sense. I think I’ll take a break for a few days, wait for whatever is gonna happen next, check out the new 196 on .world in a while, and maybe the old 196 is gonna come back somehow.
like u said on another comment, Id also be willing to mod a new 196 but not spearhead it :3 (and thanks for teaching me a new word X3) and I think a new 196 on blahaj is the best option, either that or the old 196 comes back along with the old mods (which doesnt seem like they will anyway) and I already didnt like them but now I dont trust them at all, maybe it could be called 197 like back in Reddit X3 or just ‘196 Blahaj’ to differentiate it from other 196s in other instances
I noticed they were somewhat unwilling to/incapable of removing comments that were mildly transphobic a while ago so while I’m disappointed that they are gutting 196 instead of new mods being introduced I’m not surprised.
I unfollowed every .world community I was previously following, then blocked .world entirely during the pre-backtrack period of their “we wanna do what Facebook is doing” announcement. I did unblock it later, but I’m not following anything on that instance, including 196. I don’t believe what Moss and all them said about their talk with the lemmy world admins, I think eventually when they try again with the moderation change, they’ll enforce it on 196 anyway, despite promising to let them moderate with their own rules. I also don’t like that instance having the most content, which is just going to balloon up even more with 196’s memes, since it starts going against the whole point of the fediverse, the decentralization aspect. If people start saying “well Lemmy world has the ‘best admins’ and the most communities so why make this community on another instance?”, that’s gonna have an effect, you know?
I just feel disheartened.
Also yes, I was a rule breaker, basically never posted there despite seeing it every day, but like half the memes I just downloaded and sent to my friends’ dms. So 196 did account for a big chunk of my Lemmy activity.
I blocked the .world 196 community, safe to say I’m not a fan 🤷♀️
Wow. This is sad. I didn’t even know 196 was going to migrate before this. I’d probably see it on All once in a while but I don’t think I’d join the community.
Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world?
Probably not, and if I do it will be mostly lurking.
Something about 196 being on a non-queer instance feels wrong. I can’t explain it. Maybe it’s because there are a lot of queer-positive posts on 196? Not sure. Meh, whatever. I think I have a vague idea of why they’re moving away and quite honestly, if they want to bend to people wanting to stir shit, then maybe we’re better off without them.
(Iirc the gist of it is that there was a troll who claimed to be “dragon gender” or something. Said troll said a lot of nasty shit, stirred up drama, etc. People decided that was a good excuse to misgender them and become the arbiters of what a “proper gender” is. People misgendering the troll got banned, then got pissy and cried about it. In the meantime, said troll was also banned at that point, it was mainly people stirring shit at that point. I’m pretty sure 196 is moving away from blähaj.zone because afaik Ada takes a zero tolerance stance on intentionally misgendering people; regardless of whether or not they’re a troll.)
Quite honestly I’m kinda at the point where I’m considering quitting Lemmy entirely. Between the drama, doomposting, trolls and increase in general dickishness, it’s honestly getting really bad for my mental health.
Do what is best for you, but it is my favourite social media. The best of the bad. Apart from random forums, the rest is just so infuriating to me.
I don’t see why folks can’t make their own 196 on each instance. (Maybe there is some reason for not specifically using “196” as the name, but a “196 themed” community.) Even back in Reddit you’d have subreddits that were things like “blah2” or “blah_casual” made by folks unsatisfied with the mods of the previous community. People can use either one or both if they’d like.
The original subreddit was 195 or 194, so you aren’t wrong. I hope it happens, but people need to step up if they want that. I would be willing to help, but I couldn’t do it alone.
This is where I hear about the move? 😂😂 guess I’ll miss the memes, they were a good grab bag
Very unhappy with the change, I probably won’t go to the .world community and expect/hope that someone will just recreate 196 on Blåhaj.
Every interaction I’ve had with .world mods has rubbed me the wrong way, they don’t take criticism well and are way to keen to appeal to centrist bullshit and shitty lib takes. Blåhaj is my favourite space on the internet at the moment because of the way Ada manages things, I feel safe here. That the 196 mods have a problem with that sends a pretty concerning message imo.
yep. the only thing i would add is that theres already too much content on .world. we need to spread content out horizontally instead of just centralizing it on the biggest instance.
Excellent point
I feel like im missing something here; i though 196 was already part of blahaj.zone? Is this more drama from pug?Oh fuck all of this nonsense. They can try to build their own 196 (with blackjack and hookers) elsewhere if they want, why tf are they being allowed to tank the existing 196!?
All/most of the mods seemed onboard with it, so the community would need to find new mods if it were to remain open. I would be willing to help mod such a com, but I’m not willing to spearhead it. I don’t want to stretch myself thin.
My guess is that the 196 mods decided to do this because they have lemmy.world friends who got banned from blahaj.zone. There has been a growing disconnect between some frequent posters of 196, and the rest of the community. They post good stuff and might even contribute a majority of the content on some days, but they also have edgier sensibilities and higher tolerances for bullshit. This situation doesn’t seem ideological to the mods because their motivation is personal. However, personal relationships play a larger role in our beliefs than most people think.
The mistake the mods made was assuming the queer culture of 196 would transfer over to .world. I highly doubt this will happen after folks got used to blahaj.zone for over a year. Many queer users won’t like the new 196, and as new users join, blahaj.zone users will leave. Given the reactions here, I doubt they can do much now to stop that from happening.
This is a good theory, the perp who had a bitch fit over neopronouns posted to world196 shortly after world196 was relaunched, hmmmmmmmmmp
Also I’d love a blahaj 196 resurgence but I’m too much gremlin to help mod srry :(
My guess is that the 196 mods decided to do this because they have lemmy.world friends who got banned from blahaj.zone. There has been a growing disconnect between some frequent posters of 196, and the rest of the community. They post good stuff and might even contribute a majority of the content on some days, but they also have edgier sensibilities and higher tolerances for bullshit. This situation doesn’t seem ideological to the mods because their motivation is personal. However, personal relationships play a larger role in our beliefs than most people think.
Interesting theory
i left .world because of their shitty admins and the problems they cause smaller instances. the moderation leaves much to be desired, they have shitty takes, they do whatever they feel like and i dont trust them any more than i trust a site like reddit.
as for 196, i liked the memes, i didnt really interact with the space much as it already felt less “blahaj zone” than the rest of the comms i interact with, so with them moving to .world, i doubt it will get better, and i doubt i will ever want to interact with that comm anymore. it was kinda shitty to not include the community whatsoever, but that kind of behavior is the exact kind i expect from .world mods so i guess they will fit right in.
I don’t get .world posts in my feed and will miss 196, but my internet quality of life has improved overall.
If the community stays the same, I don’t see the harm. The community of 196 has always been a mix of folks from various instances, I don’t think its host instance matters all that much comparatively.
I wish it didn’t have to come to this, but I can’t fault the mods for using the fediverse for what it was made for.
I do wish it was a different instance. Having all the big communities in one instance is concerning. I guess they weren’t willing to put in the effort to go anywhere else.
On top of that, lemmy.world has a bit of a reputation as less queer friendly, as it tries to accommodate for more conservative techies. I’ve personally run into an awful lot of respectability centrists who refuse to listen to the concerns of minorities. They think we’re overreacting, and that’s very upsetting because it comes off as gaslighting. Many of them are just in denial about the state of the world; unwilling to challenge their own perception of the world as a just place.
Way too many people subscribe to the idea of “if I don’t hear about it then it isn’t happening.” No, bitch, it’s happening, and it’s a hell of a lot worse than you think. It’s the only way I can imagine that people truly, unironically believe that LGBT people, especially trans people, are just “overreacting”.
Or to put it another way, they’re the kinda people who’d unironically believe that a tree doesn’t make a sound when it falls in the forest, and then get pissed off when a physicist tells them that the tree makes a sound no matter what.
