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    No, they want to be called LA class nuclear powered attack submarine.

    We’re in shit posting after all.

    Happy Xmas, ya filthy animal!

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    Im a hoe and I dont have a vagina so it clearly doesn’t even work 😋

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        Don’t get me wrong I’m still a woman, just not one with a vagina :D

        And tru men can be slutty too

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    In most contexts, you’d just say…”people”.

    Or, if you’re actually trying to make a demographic-wide statement, like how women aren’t good at video games, you’d just say:

    “IGNORE ME, I AN A SEXIST MORON.”

    Basically, the meme isn’t much meant for the word choice, it’s how often incels have statements to make on half the population.

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      When did “people with vaginas” unironically become a way to refer to anyone, especially as an alternative to “female”?

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        People with vaginas is the right terminology if discussing something that pertains to vaginas. Eg. “People with vaginas should make sure to see a gynecologist regularly.” in this case, saying “women” would exclude/misgender many trans and intersex people who have vaginas but are not women, while also including some women who do not have vaginas and would not need to see a gynecologist

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          The person you replied to said “female” though. As far as I know, “Man”/“Woman” is on the gender side while “Male”/“Female” is on the sex side, based purely on things like reproductive organs, chromosomes and hormones.

          Although taking all three into account may just make it hard to determine. But it does imply that “male woman” and “female man” are also valid combinations.

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            “Male”/“Female” is on the sex side, based purely on things like reproductive organs, chromosomes and hormones.

            Not really, I don’t think. They’re just the adjectives where woman/man are the nouns. If you talk about a male coworker I assume he’s a man, not that you checked his birth certificate.

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            Male and Female are still normative exclusionary categories that describe trends within physiology and not hard rules or limits. Sex is not a golden rule. It is a human created category in the same way gender is.

            If you want to talk about specific anatomy there is no reason why you can’t talk about the anatomy you’re referring to.

            I would also point out that referring to trans women as male woman is very derogatory and is functionally the same as calling us heshes or shemales.

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            Sex is a lot more complicated than male/female. There’s a bunch of different sex characteristics that make up “sex” and people can have all sorts of different combinations of them. If you just use a male/female binary, that doesn’t tell people what sex characteristic you’re referring to. Maybe something affects people based on chromosones, in which case people who are xy but otherwise “female” (like with cais) would go in the “male” category and vice versa. Or maybe something affects people based on hormones, in which case transgender people taking hrt would have to be categorized based on that. If you say “male/female”, no one knows if you’re talking about hormones, or genitals, or chromosones, or gonads, or whatever else, so it’s best to be specific and use language like “people with [body part]”

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        well sometimes u need to refer to ppl who have a vagina, because having a vagina is somehow relevant to the topic of conversation. which in my experience comes up very rarely, so i dont have to use it very often.

        some people who have vaginas arent women, and so if the topic includes those ppl, then “people with vaginas” is the perfect phrase to use. and if talking about ppl with vaginas who all identify as women, cis women is more fitting.

        “female” is a very vague way of referring to something. some ppl use it to describe gender identity, others use it to talk about ppl with vaginas, others again use it to refer to ppl with estrogen-dominant hormonal systems, etc. etc.

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        When the genital sexuals came on the scene. You know the ones who want to check everyone’s genitals to make sure they are what they say they are. The ones who are only attracted to the genitals, they could care less what is attached to them.

        For them genitals is life and they have infiltrated our government to pass laws like bathroom bills. This will allow them to examine everyone’s genitals. So far they appear to be winning and everyone’s genitals will soon be seen by them.

        The Genital Safety Administration (GSA) will need to have a booth in front of our bathrooms there to perform their checks. Another genital sexual licking their lips in anticipation next time you have to drop a deuce.

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      Casual erasure of post-op trans people is really fascinating to me. Like, how did our culture shift from the first thing people think about trans people being “have you had tHe sURgErY yet???” to “if you have a vagina and are a woman you are cis”?

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        i know this is an old comment, but i wanted to reply anyway. im sorry for my comment. i hadnt thought about post-op trans ppl at all.

        to clarify however, it wasnt the “first thing” i thought abt trans ppl, im trans myself actually.

        i guess ive had too much contact with pre-op or never-op trans ppl and too little with post-op ppl to have this on my radar.

        i will try to be better in the future!

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    “of the feminine species”

    Uh, do you want to explain to this guy what a species is, or do I have to?

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        Ladies wasn’t used in the Original Post.


        When playing a RPG of some sort, sometimes they give you the ability to reallocate all your talent points in a different way. Such as switching from melee focused to something magic oriented like a wizard or a witch. This is called a Respec, short for Re-specialization.


        Respec sounds very similar to Respect. The Original Post is about respecting women.

        I appreciate your interest in my comment, hope you have a nice day. Take care.

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    clearly ingenue is the correct choice

    or for a potential fun comment thread: is dude gendered? I grew up in a place where a lot of people called everyone dude regardless of gender. That said, when I’ve brought this up, some people get real heated about it.

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      Dude can be gendered

      and some people will think you’re just looking for an excuse to call men people who aren’t, if you say that dude is not gendered to you

      we’re on the internet after all, and no one knows the real intentions of the people behind the screen

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          Idgaf if dude can be gendered

          good for you, some people really don’t want to be called that.
          part of respecting someone’s identity is respecting the terms which they want and don’t want to be called by.
          getting them wrong doesn’t make you an asshole, getting them wrong and not caring does.

          People need to get over themselves

          in this context this is identical to Conservative “the new generation is too sensitive!!!” drivel.

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          Are you okay having the tables flipped and someone calling you “sis”?

          Using male language as the default may not bother you and you may have no ill intent with it, but it does have a history tied to it. A history where women were seen as less than and didn’t have equal rights. Western society still uses male language slang regardless of gender (hey guys, dude, bro, bruh) and it all stems from a history of a patriarchal society. Every time we say, “hey guys” to refer to a mixed-gender group, we perpetuate patriarchy, whether we intended to or not.

          Legally and overall culturally, women are still seen as less than and we still don’t have equal rights (e.g. divorce and abortion law).

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            women are still seen as less than and we still don’t have equal rights (e.g. divorce

            Actually women have superior rights during divorce, in the western world anyway. Try to keep the children as a man during divorce.

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              Actually women have superior rights during divorce, in the western world anyway. Try to keep the children as a man during divorce.

              Found the incel. Please donate my prize money to any organization that supports passing the ERA.

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          I use “my guy” as a humorous precursor to the rest of my sentence regardless of whom I’m speaking to.

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        You know I’ve said “dude” all my life and I still use it all the time in regards to everyone. If I saw that someone was genuinely offended at being called dude I wouldn’t use it again with that person, but now that I really think about it I don’t think I’ve ever heard the term in a derogatory way. Like ever. For me it’s always been a happy/inclusive word for addressing friends. My only worry for now is that saying it shows my age.

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          If I saw that someone was genuinely offended at being called dude I wouldn’t use it again with that person

          then you’re golden, dude 🙂

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      To me this feels like you could say “Guys, <insert sentence directed at a group>”, as a general term to catch the attention of/refer to a mixed genre group as a whole. Anyone getting upset that you’re using “Guys” in that context to refer to both men and women is just looking for an excuse