• Stamets@lemmy.world
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    I was really hoping that these terrible PizzaCake comics would stay on reddit. Every single one of her comics is like this. There’s no punchline. It’s just self-righteous whining one way or another. Her whole shtick on reddit is angering people in the comments and then making a comic about them. Literally every single comic. I’ve got a few thousand webcomics saved and none by her for a reason.

    Edit: Actually, this comic kind of perfectly sums up everything I hate about her. She’s denying the dude a platform by… essentially giving him a platform. “You don’t bother me so much that I made a whole comic about you and how you don’t bother me and I don’t owe you anything.” It’s performative for the sake of attention. There’s no content to this, just narcissism.

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      she does make flat, tepid, sometimes relateable, utterly forgettable comics. i saw her in my feed every day for years and simply scrolled past without issue, the way i do with all the content i’m not interested in and none of it affects my life for having scrolled past. i think it sucks, but i also think Cathy sucks and Cathy makes more money than i’ll ever see because someone out there likes it and wants to see it. Same on reddit, it’s upvoted because someone there likes it.

      in addition, there exists for some stupid ass redditor-brained reason a hate subreddit for this woman who makes subpar comics and posts them on the internet. they have a megathread of Reasons PizzaCake Is A Morally Repugnant Human Being And You Should Hate Her With A White Hot Passion Too. i skimmed the first few bullet points and it felt like a copy-paste of gamergate allegations. i stopped when it turned into outright slutshaming because fuck’s sake the hell do some lewd pics have to do with her art and comedy being bad?

      this comic ain’t about one dude, he’s generic and unfinished because he represents a lot of dudes committing a lot of harassment that is invisible to us, except through her public reactions.

      i’ve only been harassed by one jerk at a time on redit and that was a nightmarish experience. she has a whole nakedly misogynistic hate sub after her, I can’t imagine what her DMs look like. can you see where this comic might be about her feeling some stress in that situation? this comic isn’t funny and the artwork isn’t great, but does it not express a fantasy that each and every one of us has had?

      why on earth does making art about your feelings and sharing it with the world make you a narcissist? be reasonable, apply a scant bit of empathy and you might start to see a human being where the internet told you there’s a monster.

      and yes, her art sucks and her jokes are unfunny. the internet is huge and we all suck at most things, who in their right mind cares?

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      people who complain about blocking generally existing are the worst. just advertise to the world that you’re upset that it’s harder to harass people.

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    I gotta admit, I can’t stand content I can’t engage with. What’s the point? It’s just grandstanding and blowharding.

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      you never wanted to grab an annoying mf by the collar and get in his face about it?

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        No, I do, that’s why I hate non-engageable content. Cause I can’t do that.

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          sounds like you engaged with the content by being able to relate to it on a personal feelings level, where then is the problem?

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    the actual annoying self righteous borderline narcissist shit that should be left on reddit is all the whining and bitching about how the content of the post doesn’t appeal to certain people. it’s been at the top for two straight days y’all. it’s popular, we fucks with it. deal or go away, nobody cares.

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      17 hours ago

      Comic makes the exact same point as OPs but some how does it a thousand times better

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        “You don’t bother me so much that I made a whole comic about you and how you don’t bother me and I don’t owe you anything.” It’s performative for the sake of attention. There’s no content to this, just narcissism.

        how is this different in that respect? why is Pizzacake’s comic narcissist but Gretchen’s isn’t?

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    Man all get comics these days seem to be mostly about people bothering her online. I get the desire to vent that frustration but it’s been a while since I’ve seen anything else.

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    Really its the same as meatspace. You don’t hang with folks you don’t like or take phone calls from them. My dream is a block thats symetrical. Blocking is in some ways creepy because its only one way.

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    It’s really crazy how internet regressed in this regard. “Don’t feed the troll” is been the moto of the web but not it’s almost inverse. People try to justify this as justice seeking but its clearly doesn’t work.

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      It’s because of engagement algorithms, partially. Unlike ‘dumb’ forums/boards, the bulk of the modern internet heavily rewards trolling (and engaging with trolls) in every form.

      That, and very little community moderation.

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        God I love the profit driven nature of the modern Internet that relies on engagement-by-any-means-necessary. I love it sssooooo mmuuuucchhh

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    So I’m fully expecting a big reaction given how much of a reaction this comic always provokes, I’m not a huge fan of pizzacake’s art style or the whole negativity around it but I also haven’t found a way to just filter it out without blocking the whole instance. I’m not attacking anyone though, you keep on enjoying this if you like, I’m just putting my thoughts out and I might just be missing an option.

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      Tell me about it. I don’t need this bland-millenial-shouting-about-their-extremely-standard-lives fodder.

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      Yup I’m in agreement. Yes this is the comic strip sub, but this literally offers nothing of entertainment or comedy value at all. Plus why tf is this marked NSFW??? In reference to your question maybe block the User?

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        As the OP mentioned, this is the 1st time they posted this artist. If there was a single dedicated account posting PC comics, that would work, but not in this context.

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    Nobody is changing their mind from modern debates online. We are in a culture of anti-intellectualism. So there really is no point. I only block if someone is annoying or there is no point in engagement.

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      I don’t think that’s 100% true though. I’ve changed my mind several times but these talks needs both parties to argue in good faith not just throwing stones at each other.

      The main issue with main areas where this happens is because the communication tools are incredibly limited on purpose. Its impossible to have a conversation on Instagram, twitter or tiktok or even Facebook comments. And that’s done on purpose - isn’t that crazy?

      on the other hand, I generally really like discussions on hacker news because everyone at least pretends to approach in good faith and the discussion culture is quite professional. There are several small communities on the web that function this way and it really works!

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      the basic and long forgotten sloga. Of “don’t feed the trolls”

      I accept opinions other than my own, but if there is no sincere commitment from the other, why bother. Don’t feed the trolls.

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        We really should have never moved from that mindset. Now it is people rage baiting with actual trauma for money or the love of the game. 🥲

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      That’s not true.

      …On the other hand, I largely feel it’s not worth any effort unless its a passion/niche, where one has an outsized effect.

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    Honestly I’ve come around on pizzacake. I now think it’s actually an impressive artistic feat to make a successful webcomic where your secondary main character is consistently a non-existent strawman.

    It’s like social commentary on social commentary, wrapped in countless layers of irony and meta, right?

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      I also just generally like the Mary Sue nature of drawing yourself into your own comics and making yourself look good under all circumstances. It really communicates a lack of narcissism and arrogance.

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      Well, same way Stormtroopers wear helmets. You can’t really individualize them or people start to appreciate them and root for them, like they do every villain.

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    What is incredibly toxic is insulting someone and then blocking them, so they can’t defend themselves.

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      The online comment context and usage of “Why won’t you debate, are you scared” suggests the response is directed at online trolls, people who argue in bad faith, and imperiously demand rigourous debate without offering the same let alone an ounce of intellectual generosity, i.e. sealioning. In contrast, something like a movie review is a structured evaluation is still an opinion, but it doesn’t deride readers for not engaging with it.