You know that thing our collective parents do when they want to win an argument so they just start attacking you for random things you did 6 years ago? That’s exactly what this person is doing.

The person above you, I mean.

Uh. I’m gonna guess no. Is there an anime lady with robots?

Can you be more specific in why do you think that a stem major would need to also study humanities?

The fact that you would even ask this. Do you even know what they study in there? Speaking of rejecting knowledge, my guy, there is so much out there to learn. You have trapped yourself within the smallest box.

is better than “art is something that is made by someone who a subculture of the western world […]”

Mine is actually “art is communication,” but if being dishonest makes you feel better, go for it, buddy.

How would you able to take the script written by the monkey and thrown it into the trash

Why would I throw a marvelous statistical anomaly into the garbage?

Something being art or not cannot depend on the knowledge on who or what did it.

It can. It does. “Welcome to the neighborhood!” from your neighbor and from a local Internet Service Provider inherently mean different things, even if they’re “identical.”

you may have issues when you see a piece of art without the ability to know it’s contexts.

For most of human history, I’ve been able to assume that something that looks like it was built by people was built by people.

The existence of LLMs has made me more cautious, yeah. Seems like a societal net-negative.

If we want an objective truth

God, this is why stem majors need to take humanities.

God, this image is cool. Very NaissancE, if you’ve ever played that.

That version of Hamlet is not art, but Shakespeare’s version is?

Yes. For the same reason that training a chatbot on your mom’s happy birthday texts will never be good enough.

As generative algorithms are hand made by the artist,

Oh, would you look at that, intentionality. Maybe they don’t share that characteristic.

As generative algorithms are hand made by the artist, while in AI art the algorithms are made as a generic tool

So, you agree they’re different.

I feel compelled to ask this, as if I am pulled into it by the sheer gravity of this question: why did you bring it up, then?

You “can’t say you’re surprised” that anti-AI people are left of the overton window? Amazing.

Even the wind and the rain

Sorry, those aren’t people. The Grand Canyon might be awe-inspiring, but it’s not art.

This is what it always comes down to. Every single one of you thinks that art is spectacle. It’s very consumerist of you.

Holding a pencil over a piece of paper don’t make you a master of graphite on canvas.

But it does make you an artist.

The only reason you care about the wikipedia article you linked me is because it is a technical defense of the modern thing people are obviously pissed about.

So you’re right, I don’t really care; it has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.

Well, it’s a shame that chatgpt through sheer corporate momentum has completely erased whatever branch of artistic expression this is.

You should be pissed at Sam Altman for appropriating your culture.

People using AI also choose what they want to create.

No, they do not. That is, in fact, the point of having a decision engine make decisions for you. I would know, I’ve used it.

So collages are not art? Taking a picture of something not made by you is not art? Fan art is not art? Cover songs are not art?

None of these apply here. All of these are transformative.

You know what’s interesting?

A collage made by a person? Yeah, that’s art.

A collage made by my apple photo album? Nah, that’s stupid. Don’t really want to see it. I think it’d be weird if someone insisted I look at the collage their phone made.

You people never seem to grasp the personality and intimacy that makes art what it is. Yes, even when you flick your brush at a canvas like pollack.

So generative art is not art?

The public has largely decided that it’s not. That’s why it’s controversial to use. Don’t waste my time.

and any dissidence of though is quickly punished.

You’re right, we should be more open. You want to do flat earth?

I’ll start.

…Uh, what am I supposed to say here…

“I can not see the curve in the horizon.”

People with cameras choose what they take photos of.

instead of actually marching on Washington or organizing an actual strike that could do harm to businesses.

Lead the charge, dude.

Tesla is not a luxury brand by any stretch of the imagination.

Certainly not while they’re falling apart mid-highway.

I think people should trade the cars in because they’re a hazard to their health.