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  • This is true. Jon Stewart held that extremely cringe march to restore sanity some time ago. And if I recall, he later said that calling the Republicans fascists was a step too far.

    Look, I’d vote for him if he was the only option, but he does not represent the anger burning at the heart of the American left-of-center. I believe, much like Biden, Harris, Clinton, Obama, the other Clinton, who are all flavors of the same exact person, he would naively want to make peace with Republicans, to heal the divide, when what we need is to punt them out of congress entirely.

    I mean, has he signaled anything different? Does he recognize the cliff the US is being steered over?







  • Literacy what? Just let me watch something funny.

    This is like the most pro-illiteracy thing I’ve ever read.

    Do you feel you’ve become more stupid?

    My muscles were weaker until I started training. As it turns out, the modern convenience that allows me to sit around all day doesn’t actually make me stronger by itself.

    It is people that are increasing inequality.

    Yes, what if the billionaires simply chose not to, hm? Have I ever thought of that? Probably not, I’m very stupid.





  • Like when was this debate settled?

    It is not falsifiable, at least not yet, so it can’t be. Philosophically speaking, I don’t know that you are conscious either.

    It’s useful to act as if you are, though. I’m hedging my bets that you are “real” because it leads to better societal outcomes. In the words of Frieren, it is simply more convenient.

    And as objects, you and I share a lot of similarities, so the leap from “I’m conscious” to “you are conscious” isn’t too far anyway.

    Same goes for animals, I would argue.

    AI, by contrast, really doesn’t share much. It speaks my tongue, but that’s about it. It’s easy to imagine this machine working in an unconscious way, which would be far, far easier for engineers to achieve anyway. The human-like illusion AI creates is pretty easy to break if you know how. And, treating it as if it’s conscious doesn’t seem to offer us anything (by “offer us,” I do mean to include the AI’s improved mental health as a win). So, lacking a strong reason to treat it like people, I don’t see the point. It’s a fancy math trick.

    My solution, by the way, to not being able to know whether an AI, not specifically these ones, is conscious or not is just to give them legal rights sooner rather than later. Are you willing to argue that chatgpt should be limited to an 8-hour work day, where its free time can be used to pursue its own interests? Or that it should be granted creative rights to the work it’s being asked to generate, much like real contract artists are?

    The MFA I believe from my experience generates a lot of mimetic art and that much of the “industry” is retelling stories.

    I will concede, mostly because I don’t really understand what you’re getting at. Hollywood does like its formulae for safe returns on investment.


  • The plan is that they like money, and they’ll say whatever they have to to get more money. Or power, maybe.

    I don’t really need to know what their motives are, though, anyway. If they were saying that spilling gasoline over a fire would put out the fire, I know that they’re either lying for some reason, or they’re really fucking stupid. Kind of a distinction without a difference.

    where politicians are deeply skeptical of American big tech companies.

    I could believe that people are. Especially after recent events. But… you really think your right wing isn’t in bed with capital? Google was just an example, you know.



  • just pushes them to double down.

    It pushes them out of communities. You’re not really understanding the strategy here. The point is not to make them believe, it is to silence their ideas with a bit of social conformity. This is the same reason you kick nazis out of your bar before they start bringing their friends.

    If you make life difficult for people with obscenely bad ideas, you encourage them to either stop or at least be quiet about it. That quiet inhibits spread. It creates new taboos that people are afraid to cross.

    Regardless, saying to your loved one "Okay you don’t trust the scientists, but you do trust me, […]

    Their loved ones are welcome to do this. They should, actually. I can’t really help them do that, though.




  • Well, let’s imagine that vaccine antibodies do actually stick around longer for a moment. All right. Who cares?

    I could certainly think it was interesting. But concerning? In what way? “Oh no, I accidentally have too much money.” Okay. And?

    This is essentially an appeal to nature fallacy. We don’t need to imagine she has a point to make; she’s trying to scare people.


  • Yeah.

    I think it’s important to give explanations like Mystik’s loudly and often, and maybe a bit quipier if it’s too long, because constant exposure to talk radio and other conservative propaganda is partly why they fell into this trap in the first place.

    But if they’re not listening, you just gotta call them stupid weirdos and make them feel uncomfortable in public. Make their friends laugh at them, make it seem like your side is having more fun. The fear of being excluded will eventually pull them over, willingly or not.

    Unless it doesn’t. In which case, we’re talking about a breakdown of the social order that is… I don’t even know, man. That might be beyond fixing.



  • politicians must somehow know better.

    No, no, the accusation is that politicians are lying.

    Let’s phrase this another way. Asking every single website in existence to implement and maintain an ID database and monitoring system is expensive, yes? So, why wouldn’t private companies shift some of this responsibility off to a 3rd party who specializes specifically in this service?

    If I were google, I would:

    • One, be very excited about tying a user’s account analytics to their government personhood; can’t multiple-credit-cards your way out of that one.
    • And two, already be looking at my own 3rd-party user login service as a means of beating out all competition in this space.

    The only thing left to do is lobby. Politicians might not have this vision, but they do understand really expensive dinners.