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      A lot of people don’t understand this honestly, it’s not about intelligence, it’s not even about being good or bad.

      The reason we are against him is because he has conflicting interests with the people. He works for the oligarchs, for capital, not for humanity, not for the environment, not even for american citizens.

      And my 2 cents on this discussion is that critiquing him for being a convicted felon and about his other cases he is accused of is a really disorienting and weak critique as well. He is not going to make our lives miserable because he is convicted, he is going to make our lives miserable because he is a far right, neoliberal fascist with no respect for human life. And on the contrary, many activists have been convicted of crimes, like Assange, but I’d do anything to have them as president. Having been convicted is practically irrelevant and highly dependent on the crime.

      So instead the critique should be targeted at politics, not on personal issues… But then again the fact that the critique doesn’t always focus on politics is indicative a lot of times of the very small ideological gap between the two parties and how none offers any real alternative.

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    I will now cut back on all social media. Lemmy included as I get a depression from what’s happening in the US. What is painfully obvious is that we Europeans must stop fucking around and federate so that we have a fucking chance wedged in between despots and idiots.

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      Volt all the way baby!!!

      Lets get the european federation on the way!!

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    America is fucked. Ukraine is fucked. The world is fucked. The only glimmer of hope is Trump drops dead before his term is out.

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      The issue is that the heritage foundation has put JD vanced to take over for Trump when he dies

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        Which, and I can’t believe I’m saying this, is actually scarier than just Trump. Both are nightmares, Vance is young and wants to make tech CEOs kings

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          Of course. He’s bankrolled by Peter Thiel and they make no false claims about it. Dude is a vindictive brat with billions to his name and absolutely 0 shame. He bankrolled Hulk Hogan’s Gawker lawsuit over a grudge.

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    This is so. fucked. up. I’m not American (and thank fuck for that), but I’m actually feeling so ill and worried for y’all. I think it’s time for me to block/unfollow any American accounts and news cause shit’s about to get really fucking bleak.

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      I went on holiday to the USA this summer. We had time, money, had never been and feared/expected the USA to elect Trump again. Looks like I made the right call. Stay strong USA.

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    America wasn’t built on just immigrants, it was built upon a certain type of immigrants: opportunists who placed greed above everything else. It shows.

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      The first waves, sure. Once you get to the Irish escaping the famine or the Italians escaping Mussolini, it became more about just survival.

      The OGs were racist as fuck towards them, too.

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    I kept trying to tell people that polls and surveys is just astrology for math nerds

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            They’re not to blame. They’ve been convinced by a powerful, wealthy propaganda machine that their identity is more important than their planet, their children’s futures, or their own basic human rights. They were scared, tired, desperate, and when the machine came for them and it felt so good they bought it without checking the receipt. They’ve been tricked into giving away their futures and they are going to suffer for it. They’re stupid, but they’re not evil.

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              Some of them, yes. I have family that fit your description, but I also have family filled with anger and spite. The ones who hold hate I can and will blame for it.

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        Apparently those Mussolini style of speeches and the other 50 or so political suicides did not really matter as much as you would think. No matter the outcome this being this close I think spells the end of the USA as a rational power.

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          those Mussolini style of speeches

          Like Kamala at the DNC saying that the US needs to have the MOST LETHAL army in the world, and the crowd bursting into chants of “USA, USA, USA”?

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        Not really. Voter engagement always swings more right than left, the fact the numbers aren’t that far off means it’s likely more than 50%.

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    Im more impressed than terrified. Choosing a guy who cheated on his wife instead of decrimanalised marijuana AND better healthcare. How???

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    The national identity of being Canadian over the last while has been every four years wondering if the downstairs neighbors are going to decide to restart up the meth lab they keep tinkering with and bracing for the sounds of domestic violence to resume.

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        People in Canada are delusional and think it can’t happen to us too because we’re the polite maple syrup guys. I’ve seen the projections for Pierre Poilievre. We are in 2015 America, where everybody thinks “people won’t vote for that guy, he obviously sucks”, and they aren’t right.

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        Not saying our shit doesn’t stink but there’s a certain matter of scale to consider. Leastaways we don’t have nukes we can hand over to the psychopath we are looking at voting in.

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      You’ve described exactly how I feel. And of course, the shit down south is affecting us up here, we have our own lunatic conservatives like Doug Ford, Milhouse and Bernier who aspire to be like the GOP.

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        Conservatism is a worldwide problem and they all borrow each other’s notes. It’s not going to be a fun time for us coming up. I can only hope that when the shit hits the fan down there those up here start rethinking their bullshit.

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    Yeah its one thing if youre a trump supporter because then you are just a sheep but i actually dont understand whats going on in the head if those who have to think about the decision