Things didn’t end well for the last guy…
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Or just don’t show up to work, and start looking for another job.
What they gonna do? Shoot you for “being sick and unable to report to work”?
Message for Government Employees: If you work a government job, DON’T GO TO WORK WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN. Fuck that BS, don’t let the government treat you like a slave. Calling out from work is not a crime (even if it is, fuck them anyways).
All TSA agents should strike at the same time those days, wearing green hats and fake mustaches
Nothing would change, the TSA does nothing but harass lawful citizens.
Yeah lol, people would probably have a great travel experience and want to make it permanent. Strikes only work if your job is important to someone, otherwise they work against you
I’m gonna guess that the airports will shut down in the US if TSA is not available. They’re not just gonna let people through without any security in place.
If the choice is profits or security for customers…
But there’s probably some more systems that prevent it
They let people through unscreened on holidays. I let them buy me out of my ticket on a long weekend once and flying the next day was so nice. A few dozen of us were just waved past security and right to the gate. Just had to show we had a boarding pass. This was at a big Texas airport too.
They aren’t allowed to strike.
Disruption is the point of striking.
They are legally not allowed to strike. They would be fired immediately for dereliction of their position. It’s part of the negotiation when they take a federal job.
What will they do if all TSA agents are fired tho?
If the government is going to be derelect in its duty to pay its workers, then workers can do the same to their positions.
Though I would be looking for another job and quit without notice when one is found in this case. Fuck Musk. No one voted for his ass.
Have you met them? They’re basically otherwise unemployable.
Meh, I’m sure their local police force, who are toally well trained and organized and not filled with overweight people, would gladly accept them, just look at what the average cop looks like. These TSA agents will fit right in.
(Not that I want there to be more cops, but sadly thats where these people will end up. 🤷♂️)
The comment about weight was unnecessary, even though I broadly agree with the message.
I was imagining that their point was that police officers are supposed to be fit.
I have a friend who is a TSA agent and he’s a lovely and intelligent person. He took the job because it was the best thing available to him and federal jobs (usually) come with very good benefits and health coverage. He hadn’t seen a doctor for about 6 years before he got the job because his insurance and PTO was so terrible at his last job.
Yeah, there’s always some exception. Hope your friend is doing well.
So far they’ve gotten paid every time, just late.
So far…
If my job ever skips a check I’m not coming back until I get it. Fuck that. Everyone not getting paid because of this should stay home and let chaos happen. Cause some real consequences to Musk and the rest of them.
Go to work and do nothing but look for a new job on your phone. What are they gonna do, not pay you anymore?
And they ripped out funding for pediatric cancer research. $250 million… or around 0.05% of president Musk’s net worth. Why do repubs hate kids with cancer?
Because they’re not profitable.
Also 900 million will not be going to North Carolina hurricane relief.
Cold heartless bastards
Assuming I did my math correctly these two things would have been a combined total of .002% of the federal budget.
Can’t buy a B2 with hurricane relief.
You mean the state that put this asshole in power?
Leopards getting fat here.
why can’t north carolina use hurricane insurance instead of relying on the feds?
Yeah, those people living in the (checks notes) mountains in (checks notes again) inland North Carolina knew the risks of not getting Hurricane insurance!
Technically it was a tropical storm. Case denied.
Why can’t the government take care of it’s people instead of making them rely on private insurance? It’s the government. They should be doing things like taking care of their citizens during times of crisis.
this isn’t something unpredictable there are consistent tropical storms in North Carolina as with most of the south east United states.
Ummmmm this would be largely flood insurance and that’s a federal program.
They want to strip away everything that reduces infant mortality, so that people start having more kids again since so many of them will die young.
Then later they give it back, and since they already took away the right to abortion… Boom, population explosion and a bunch of poor kids are born to later be exploited in factories and wars.
Whoa whoa whoa you can’t go around funding kids healthcare. Then they are gonna become adult voters who expect more free healthcare.
You want kids who get to adulthood on the skin of their teeth, or kids who don’t get to adulthood at all. There’s no in-between.
TSA agents are ineffectual on the best of days, but without pay? Between that and the amazing production quality at Boeing I’m quite content to not fly anywhere.
President Musk flexing his muscles even before puppet inauguration.
I don’t know, I still think Putin has info on Trump that Trump really doesn’t want to be public for whatever reason. So I’m thinking he would defer to Putin.
I used to think that, but there’s nothing Trump could have done that the loony right wing public wouldn’t gleefully dismiss as not important. (Well, apart from a lewd orgy with trans Muslim Mexican immigrants, but I don’t think any of those exist, and Trump would just call it faked anyway.)
Now I think that Putin just rings him up to tell him what a great president he is and all the world admires how strong a leader he is, not like those weak Democrats who (insert policy Putin wants dropped), no, Trump is a strong and courageous leader and everyone can tell how strong and virile he is because he supports policies like (insert policy that Putin wants implemented).
I mean maybe there’s a video of Trump shouting “Yes, shove that big beautiful black dildo in me harder!”, but I don’t think it’s necessary at all. See how easy it was for the North Korean president to get Trump to completely change direction. He just sweet talked him for a bit. Trump is an absolute sucker for someone he perceives as strong telling him he’s great. American foreign policy is at the whim of any world leader who can make Trump feel proud of himself for a week.
Whether or not the public would dismiss it and whether or not he thinks they would dismiss it are two very different things.
Which does point towards some non-hetero sexcapade, because pretty much everything else he’s famous for already having done.
I still think he’s pathetically easy to manipulate for dictators.
Putin probably gave him a few billion to buy him. It’s peanuts money for an oligarch. Putin could reveal the amount and banking details, how much was invested into the different building projects Trump is so proud of.
At this point, I’m not sure that would be enough to sink him.
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but there’s nothing Trump could have done that the loony right wing public wouldn’t gleefully dismiss as not important.
Young boys. It’s the only thing I can think of that might sway enough of them.
They just wouldn’t believe it. They wouldn’t accept that it was real, and any investigation would either confirm that belief or be obviously political and corrupt.
You’re right. And now with AI, they have all the plausible deniability they need.
“There’s a big secret that somebody knows that will totally sink Trump’s career at long last and if we can just find what it is and tell everyone else we’ll win” is a lie liberals have been feeding to one another for thirteen years running.
We have him glad-handing Jeffery Epstein and nobody seems to fucking care. We have him on record paying off prostitutes and taking bribes from the Saudis and implying he’d like to fuck his daughter. We have videos of him saying insane shit about having sex on a yacht during a speech to the fucking Boy Scouts. We have him rambling incoherently about “Eating the Dogs and the Cats” in the middle of a national debate.
But don’t worry, there’s something even deeper and weirder and crazier. And that’s going to make all the difference.
And that’s why he’s friends with Vladimir Putin. It’s certainly not just that they’re both white nationalists who agree with each others’ politics.
Have you never heard of Nineteen Eighty Four? There is nothing that can sway Trump’ supporters. 2+2=5
what would happen if Putin and Musk disagree at some point
Nothing significant. Musk is running on a purely American strain of right-wing revanchism. Trying to deflect all our problems onto Evil Foreign Man is a big part of why the country is as fucked as it is today. We simply cannot let ourselves believe that the fascist strain gripping our country by the taint is American born and bred. So every four years, Republicans accuse the Democrats of being Chinese and Democrats accuse the Republicans of being Russian, and then the parties do old fashioned American Protestant Capitalism to the country while we all writhe in torment, looking for someone else to blame.
Out of the loop, what do you mean SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT???
It’s a thing that’s been happening a lot over the past few years where US politicians refuse to sign bills that approve government spending (such as continuing to pay government employees) until their demands about some unrelated thing are met.
I believe the term for this is “political blackmail”.
Why it is accepted and legal, I don’t understand.
Sounds like terrorism to me
No, no, terrorism is when you kill people who have money.
because it’s a tool that can be useful
It shouldn’t have to be useful. This is just a sign of failed governance.
It’s useful in a healthy democracy. Which the US isn’t.
Maybe as a last resort. Not the defacto standard, every couple of months let’s hold the entire government hostage.
Hey let’s do some really evil shit and if you don’t agree, we’re gonna shut down the government and not pay anyone.
Yes, of course, as a last resort.
Useful to whom?
Don’t worry, the DEA will work for IOUs until the matter is settled.
How bout they just dont show up? The TSA is a fraudulent agency anyway. Pre-9/11 security worked just fine.
And if someone is going to hijack a plane to pilot it into a building, i doubt their mission would depend on a large tube of toothpaste and a nail clipper
“Heh heh heh, finally, I can sneak enough explosive toothpaste into the plane!”
That’s the terrorists right now, how do you feel now, huh? It’s not a joke. TSA is extremely serious. 😤
We need to teach him to be scared of us.
Good luck. He can afford a personal army to protect him.
There are more of us.
With military-grade weapons? I doubt it.
With how loosy-goosy the US is with weapons purchasing? There’s a chance.
There’s also a chance that Musk’s security forces will spray bullets into the crowd from sniper positions.
If that ever happened, itd push the guillotines out overnight.
Sure it would. Just like all the other “if this happens, the guillotines will come out” events where that didn’t occur when it happened.
Why do they have to work? Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?
Because people need to eat.
Also, some air travel is essential.
Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?
Are you trying to imply…that the medical couriers …are transporting …food?
You do know that ‘also’ is a word used to separate two different points, right?
Yeah but implying that medical couriers are selling their payloads on a cannibal black market is juicer than a fat mans liver.
With some fava beans.
And a nice chianti.
I’m not?
Juicer than a fat mans liver? I dunno man I never met you.
It would be a lot cooler if you were
Lol the idea of a medical courier waiting in line at the TSA rummaging through their organ containers because they flagged it sus in the x-ray machine.
They said shut down the airport. That includes couriers.
They are only doing it in the first place because they need to eat
Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?
The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered settled in an emergency meeting because they have places they want to go
You think they pass by tsa?
No, hence why I said shutting down airports
Yes, but private airports, or airstrips, exist and probably have little to no TSA involvement. Some guy nearby lands his helicopter in his back yard.
You one comment ago:
Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?
You this comment:
The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered
Which is it? Does it make sense to shut down U.S. airports or is that something that wouldn’t happen?
How are you confused on that
If they were to announce airport shutdowns then the budget would be passed to prevent that
You didn’t say announce a shutdown. If you meant announce it and not actually do it, you sure weren’t clear about that since you said it would make sense to do it.
I hope that US citizens will remember who caused the chaos out of pure spite when the next election comes around.
Why would anyone remember? You clearly don’t remember how often this happens.
This happens constantly and 80% of the time it’s republicans playing games (not being unable to agree, but agreeing and then doing stupid shit because of the tea party or Trumpers or whatever)
Remember? Mmmmwwwwhahahahaha!
Not a chance, not with the publics goldfish like memory span and media companies pushing their narrative.
The next election will be like the kind they have in Russia.
Not unlikely, indeed. Sorry for you, chaps. We went through this about 80 years ago, and we mostly learned our lesson.
I get it, but having people feel bad for the TSA of all organizations is a tall order. Why not pick a less controversial gov agency effected like say the National Parks and Museums?
Probably because parks and museums usually just close whenever this happens, so they’re not working without pay. They’re just on an indefinite suspension
And yet I can feel for them more, If the TSA was gone tomorrow I could not care.
The way it setup it will not mean the removal of the stupid safety theater, it will mean the closing of the airport.
I know, and that makes me even less inclined to have sympathy for the TSA as a whole. I know I should feel bad for the people working at the TSA, but I can’t.
Ruining the holidays for a bunch of government employees, not just TSA. I am more worried about air traffic controllers, NASA, NOAA, FDA, the VA (yeah they suck, but a lot of people depend on them and making them work unpaid is definitely not going to improve anything), and thousands of other government employees that will go without pay. The longer it lasts, the worse it will be for the economy.
Damn. Imagine just showing up to work knowing you won’t be paid, with a bunch of other coworkers who are in the exact same socio-economic hostage crisis.
Gotta wonder if there’s some kind of organizational remedy. Like… a collection of workers who could all respond together as a single labor unit to demand a different set of policies on pain of withholding their labor until their demands are met.
I’ve heard of these! They’re called onions!
Like an ogre, they have layers.
I am old enough to remember when Reagan used military and scabs to bust the air traffic controllers’ strike. Hopefully this time people won’t cross picket lines.
There’s no picket lines, because there’s no organizing and no threat of a strike. Reagan did his work and Clinton/Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden made sure it stuck.
More likely what we’re going to see isn’t a single unified organized effort, but a bunch of individuals just walking off the job or phoning it in because they’re too demoralized to continue doing these thankless jobs. Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit.
Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated. Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it, cause they are about to have a serious illegal immigration problem.
Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated.
Excited to see the biggest rug-pull in US history when that back half fails to materialize.
Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it
The Canadian far-right is such a fucking joke. They want to be American so badly. Far from building a wall, I suspect they’ll be the ones shoving open the gates if we ever get a President deranged enough to try an annexation.
There will be “education,” but the traditional description for it is indoctrination.
Two sides of the same coin. The distinction between the two is primarily whether you consider the information conveyed beneficial or nefarious.
Either way, Americans are already the most propagandized people on earth. You don’t need to send people to college to indoctrinate them. You’ve got consumer-grade mass media doing the job just fine.
Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit
The big difference will be that those jobs can’t be replaced as easily. ATC had quasi-analogous people in the military, and the only real match there is the VA. The issue is the amount of military doctors/nurses working in the armed forces does not compare to the civilian side. For the rest? NASA/NOAA/FDA have one-if-not-none person that may be able to substitute in.
With that thought, I’d be more than willing to place money on this being one of the thrusts of the idiotic doge. Why have national parks? Why care about food and drug quality? Healthcare for vets? Bahahaha, the money overlords care about their own supply, which they can ensure with their money. Everything there is focused solely on the peons, which have no meaning to the people pulling these strings.
Not even a government shutdown can stop the TSA from harassing people
Remember when the goverment was first shut down in a long time, if ever before, when Republicans thought it would be a good ratfucker move to harm Obama’s presidency, and it blew up in their faces, and our Country went from a AAAA rated borrower to a AAA borrower due to government disfunction? We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding. It pisses me off so much. Imagine getting paid a significant amount of tax payer money, a life long sipend, and better health care than most the county, and not even doing your job and letting the goverment shut down. At some point here the lawlessness is going to convince enough people that it seriously doesn’t matter anymore.
We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding
What we do in Australia is of the government can’t pass a budget we dissolve the government and go for elections.
Clearly the MP are not doing their jobs so make them run for their jobs again.That works in a parliamentary system, because the state and the government are two different things. In the U.S. system, they are functionally the same thing. We can’t dissolve the government, or we’d have to rebuild the entire state apparatus from the ground up.
Why doesn’t the “no new wars!” gang cut military spending by 65-80%? Defense readiness doesn’t cost $800B/ year.
Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding.
This is exactly what happened a few days ago in France. While it’s not perfect, it’s still a whole lot better than a shutdown.
“let them eat cake” -Elon Musk
