Things didn’t end well for the last guy…

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    56 minutes ago

    Did we not abolish the TSA yet? Funny how we’re always losing ground on everything.

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      43 minutes ago

      You don’t like poorly trained, poorly paid rent-a-cops screaming at you to take of your shoes and empty your pockets and x-ray you while they steal your Nintendo Switch?

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      Because people need to eat.

      Also, some air travel is essential.

      Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?

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        41 minutes ago

        Lol the idea of a medical courier waiting in line at the TSA rummaging through their organ containers because they flagged it sus in the x-ray machine.

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        2 hours ago

        Are you trying to imply…that the medical couriers …are transporting …food?

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        They are only doing it in the first place because they need to eat

        Or do you want to stop medical couriers from delivering organs for transplant?

        The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered settled in an emergency meeting because they have places they want to go

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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          You one comment ago:

          Doesn’t it make more sense to shutdown US airports?

          You this comment:

          The rich would give in long before this and have the mattered

          Which is it? Does it make sense to shut down U.S. airports or is that something that wouldn’t happen?

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    Theater of security isn’t helpful anyway. I say it’s even harmful, as it makes cars more attractive over public transport and get more shit in our lungs as result.

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    5 hours ago

    I get it, but having people feel bad for the TSA of all organizations is a tall order. Why not pick a less controversial gov agency effected like say the National Parks and Museums?

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      5 hours ago

      Probably because parks and museums usually just close whenever this happens, so they’re not working without pay. They’re just on an indefinite suspension

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        5 hours ago

        And yet I can feel for them more, If the TSA was gone tomorrow I could not care.

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          4 hours ago

          The way it setup it will not mean the removal of the stupid safety theater, it will mean the closing of the airport.

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            I know, and that makes me even less inclined to have sympathy for the TSA as a whole. I know I should feel bad for the people working at the TSA, but I can’t.

  • Magnetic_dud@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 hours ago

    But they’re going to get paid when the budget is approved again, right?

    It’s a problem for who lives paycheck to paycheck, though

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      2 hours ago

      Most people making 50k are working 4th-next-paycheck to 5th-next-paycheck tho.

  • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    How bout they just dont show up? The TSA is a fraudulent agency anyway. Pre-9/11 security worked just fine.

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      7 hours ago

      And if someone is going to hijack a plane to pilot it into a building, i doubt their mission would depend on a large tube of toothpaste and a nail clipper

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        7 hours ago

        “Heh heh heh, finally, I can sneak enough explosive toothpaste into the plane!”

        That’s the terrorists right now, how do you feel now, huh? It’s not a joke. TSA is extremely serious. 😤

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    10 hours ago

    Remember when the goverment was first shut down in a long time, if ever before, when Republicans thought it would be a good ratfucker move to harm Obama’s presidency, and it blew up in their faces, and our Country went from a AAAA rated borrower to a AAA borrower due to government disfunction? We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding. It pisses me off so much. Imagine getting paid a significant amount of tax payer money, a life long sipend, and better health care than most the county, and not even doing your job and letting the goverment shut down. At some point here the lawlessness is going to convince enough people that it seriously doesn’t matter anymore.

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      9 hours ago

      We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding

      What we do in Australia is of the government can’t pass a budget we dissolve the government and go for elections.
      Clearly the MP are not doing their jobs so make them run for their jobs again.

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        5 hours ago

        That works in a parliamentary system, because the state and the government are two different things. In the U.S. system, they are functionally the same thing. We can’t dissolve the government, or we’d have to rebuild the entire state apparatus from the ground up.

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      9 hours ago

      Why doesn’t the “no new wars!” gang cut military spending by 65-80%? Defense readiness doesn’t cost $800B/ year.

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      8 hours ago

      Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding.

      This is exactly what happened a few days ago in France. While it’s not perfect, it’s still a whole lot better than a shutdown.

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    11 hours ago

    Ruining the holidays for a bunch of government employees, not just TSA. I am more worried about air traffic controllers, NASA, NOAA, FDA, the VA (yeah they suck, but a lot of people depend on them and making them work unpaid is definitely not going to improve anything), and thousands of other government employees that will go without pay. The longer it lasts, the worse it will be for the economy.

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      10 hours ago

      Damn. Imagine just showing up to work knowing you won’t be paid, with a bunch of other coworkers who are in the exact same socio-economic hostage crisis.

      Gotta wonder if there’s some kind of organizational remedy. Like… a collection of workers who could all respond together as a single labor unit to demand a different set of policies on pain of withholding their labor until their demands are met.

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        10 hours ago

        I am old enough to remember when Reagan used military and scabs to bust the air traffic controllers’ strike. Hopefully this time people won’t cross picket lines.

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          There’s no picket lines, because there’s no organizing and no threat of a strike. Reagan did his work and Clinton/Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden made sure it stuck.

          More likely what we’re going to see isn’t a single unified organized effort, but a bunch of individuals just walking off the job or phoning it in because they’re too demoralized to continue doing these thankless jobs. Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit.

          • collapse_already@lemmy.ml
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            10 hours ago

            Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated. Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it, cause they are about to have a serious illegal immigration problem.

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              10 hours ago

              Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated.

              Excited to see the biggest rug-pull in US history when that back half fails to materialize.

              Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it

              The Canadian far-right is such a fucking joke. They want to be American so badly. Far from building a wall, I suspect they’ll be the ones shoving open the gates if we ever get a President deranged enough to try an annexation.

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                  Two sides of the same coin. The distinction between the two is primarily whether you consider the information conveyed beneficial or nefarious.

                  Either way, Americans are already the most propagandized people on earth. You don’t need to send people to college to indoctrinate them. You’ve got consumer-grade mass media doing the job just fine.

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            Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit

            The big difference will be that those jobs can’t be replaced as easily. ATC had quasi-analogous people in the military, and the only real match there is the VA. The issue is the amount of military doctors/nurses working in the armed forces does not compare to the civilian side. For the rest? NASA/NOAA/FDA have one-if-not-none person that may be able to substitute in.

            With that thought, I’d be more than willing to place money on this being one of the thrusts of the idiotic doge. Why have national parks? Why care about food and drug quality? Healthcare for vets? Bahahaha, the money overlords care about their own supply, which they can ensure with their money. Everything there is focused solely on the peons, which have no meaning to the people pulling these strings.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      16 hours ago

      I don’t know, I still think Putin has info on Trump that Trump really doesn’t want to be public for whatever reason. So I’m thinking he would defer to Putin.

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        I used to think that, but there’s nothing Trump could have done that the loony right wing public wouldn’t gleefully dismiss as not important. (Well, apart from a lewd orgy with trans Muslim Mexican immigrants, but I don’t think any of those exist, and Trump would just call it faked anyway.)

        Now I think that Putin just rings him up to tell him what a great president he is and all the world admires how strong a leader he is, not like those weak Democrats who (insert policy Putin wants dropped), no, Trump is a strong and courageous leader and everyone can tell how strong and virile he is because he supports policies like (insert policy that Putin wants implemented).

        I mean maybe there’s a video of Trump shouting “Yes, shove that big beautiful black dildo in me harder!”, but I don’t think it’s necessary at all. See how easy it was for the North Korean president to get Trump to completely change direction. He just sweet talked him for a bit. Trump is an absolute sucker for someone he perceives as strong telling him he’s great. American foreign policy is at the whim of any world leader who can make Trump feel proud of himself for a week.

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          Putin probably gave him a few billion to buy him. It’s peanuts money for an oligarch. Putin could reveal the amount and banking details, how much was invested into the different building projects Trump is so proud of.

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            13 hours ago

            At this point, I’m not sure that would be enough to sink him.

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              For him it’s not so much a worry about losing people as it is a personal branding ego thing. He’s payed off people for stuff that was already known and his supporters didn’t care about just to not mention again.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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          Whether or not the public would dismiss it and whether or not he thinks they would dismiss it are two very different things.

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            Which does point towards some non-hetero sexcapade, because pretty much everything else he’s famous for already having done.

            I still think he’s pathetically easy to manipulate for dictators.

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          13 hours ago

          but there’s nothing Trump could have done that the loony right wing public wouldn’t gleefully dismiss as not important.

          Young boys. It’s the only thing I can think of that might sway enough of them.

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            They just wouldn’t believe it. They wouldn’t accept that it was real, and any investigation would either confirm that belief or be obviously political and corrupt.

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              “There’s a big secret that somebody knows that will totally sink Trump’s career at long last and if we can just find what it is and tell everyone else we’ll win” is a lie liberals have been feeding to one another for thirteen years running.

              We have him glad-handing Jeffery Epstein and nobody seems to fucking care. We have him on record paying off prostitutes and taking bribes from the Saudis and implying he’d like to fuck his daughter. We have videos of him saying insane shit about having sex on a yacht during a speech to the fucking Boy Scouts. We have him rambling incoherently about “Eating the Dogs and the Cats” in the middle of a national debate.

              But don’t worry, there’s something even deeper and weirder and crazier. And that’s going to make all the difference.

              And that’s why he’s friends with Vladimir Putin. It’s certainly not just that they’re both white nationalists who agree with each others’ politics.

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              You’re right. And now with AI, they have all the plausible deniability they need.

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      what would happen if Putin and Musk disagree at some point

      Nothing significant. Musk is running on a purely American strain of right-wing revanchism. Trying to deflect all our problems onto Evil Foreign Man is a big part of why the country is as fucked as it is today. We simply cannot let ourselves believe that the fascist strain gripping our country by the taint is American born and bred. So every four years, Republicans accuse the Democrats of being Chinese and Democrats accuse the Republicans of being Russian, and then the parties do old fashioned American Protestant Capitalism to the country while we all writhe in torment, looking for someone else to blame.