• FiskFisk33@startrek.website
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    I got a milkshake a while back, in a plastic container, with a plastic lid, for some reason it also came with a plastic spoon, and a paper straw, since they are cutting down on plastics…

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      >go to mcdonald’s

      >order hot cakes and a large orange juice

      >receive hot cakes in plastic container, with six individually plastic wrapped teaspoons of butter and a plastic tub of high fructose corn syrup and a large plastic cup of orange juice

      >throw away plastic straw

      >pull out reusable metal straw

      >I’m saving the environment one breakfast at a time

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        Ah the, “I’ll have a diet coke with this Big Mag, Cheesecake bites, large French Fries” mindset.

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      I know this probably isn’t the best place, but I really hate the way paper straws feel, but I also hate being handed a any straw when I can just drink straight from the cup anyway.

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      In my community, most of the lids are biodegradable. Still not great (require an industrial composter), but at least if it is left out, it does breakdown somewhat faster than “never”

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    I mean there was some joke libertarian candidate that literally ran under the slogan “Make America Grate Again” claiming that he would outlaw sliced and shredded cheeses to make America embrace its graters and its grating roots.

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      How is clamping down on the freedom companies have to make plastic cheese, and the freedom for people to buy it… Libertarian?

      Isn’t that pretty authoritarian?

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      I bought a rotary grater about two years ago thanks to a post on Reddit and I rarely ever buy sliced cheese anymore, if I do it’s the kind that comes in one pack with parchment paper in between the slices.

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        Looking at the thumbnail, I assumed this was going to be a joke about the cheese being essentially plastic

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        Was just about to say this. A decent amount of brands do use paper instead of plastic to separate individual slices, but I’ve only seen it with real cheese. Never with American cheese

        Also before anyone says something, no, American cheese is not real cheese. In fact, it contains less than 50% cheese. It is officially considered a “pasteurized processed American cheese food”.

        Also it’s only good for grilled cheese, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or melting onto leftover spaghetti. I will die on this hill.

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          Ingredients for Kraft American cheese slices:

          CHEDDAR CHEESE (CULTURED MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), SKIM MILK, MILKFAT, MILK, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, WHEY, CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, SALT, LACTIC ACID, OLEORESIN PAPRIKA (COLOR), NATAMYCIN (A NATURAL MOLD INHIBITOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE, ANNATTO (COLOR).

          It’s not health food, but if it’s less than 50% cheese it’s because of the milk/milk products added into it to make it meltier. The only thing making up more than 2% of it that isn’t cheese or a milk product is sodium and calcium phosphate. Different cheeses for different jobs.

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            It’s divine. Just fill a bowl with spaghet, tear one or two slices into strips and lay them over the top, nuke it for about a minute, mix it all up, do another 30 seconds, eat, cum repeatedly

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          Not sure if parchment paper would work for this particular form of fake cheese because its literally a liquid that they pour into the plastic. It solidifies in the fridge.

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          Also it’s only good for grilled cheese, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or melting onto leftover spaghetti. I will die on this hill.

          But it’s the best option for all of these and thus it will always be in my fridge. Except the spaghetti… That’s weird but I’m curious.

          And before y’all get all shitty, I’m not talking about your whatever melts. That’s not a grilled cheese. A grilled cheese has exactly 3 ingredients: bread, butter, cheese. That’s it. And that cheese is best when it’s Kraft singles. Fight me.

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            100% agree

            On the spaghet topic, trust me, you will be glad you tried it. I’ve never done it with freshly made spaghetti, cause that’s amazing on its own, but if you’ve got leftovers just put it in a bowl, tear one or two slices into strips and put them on top, nuke it for a minute or so, mix it all up, eat, and cum

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            Nah, a good deli-style American will be better than Kraft Singles. Try Kraft Deli Deluxe (or any other brand).

            It’s lower milk content so it’s more solid, not individually wrapped but is individually sliced. It’s what restaurants like Culver’s use.

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              I’ll have to try it sometime

              Though unless the flavor profile is considerably different (and better), I’d still personally say that cheddar is the ultimate cheese

              Especially sharp cheddar. I love eating slices of it with honey 😋

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          Hamburgers just arent the same without that nasty over processed American “cheese” only place I can find it around me in Australia is at Costco so I have to buy like 2.1Kg of it at a time.

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            I get what you’re saying, but I still prefer cheddar or maybe Swiss depending on the toppings. Tastes more “real”

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          I would go so far as to argue it’s only good on grilled cheeses. Maybe the occasional American style cheeseburger. Other than that Cheddar is superior.

          And honestly I prefer swiss for my burgers I just never have it on hand.

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            Get a good deli-style American and it might change your mind. But yeah, the Kraft Singles are awful.

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            You gotta try it on spaghet. It’s actually amazing

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          I’m really intriged with the spaghetti part… Do you reckon it would still work on just cooked pasta? I don’t have a microwave.

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            Definitely! I just never bother cause I like spaghetti as-is as well, and I always have leftovers. Definitely a must-have on reheated spaghetti for me, tho

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          Also it’s only good for grilled cheese, bacon egg and cheese sandwiches, or melting onto leftover spaghetti. I will die on this hill.

          You have my sword for this.

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            Personally I prefer cheddar or swiss on real burgers. But if it’s a fast food burger then yeah, absolutely

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          It’s my favourite for burgers. It lasts way longer without going bad (I find real cheese slices will go moldy before I can use them all), tastes better to me, and is meltier. The meltiness is really nice!

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      Personally, I like cheese but I always found plastic sliced cheese just fucking gross. Melted cheese in plastic blech

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        Try a good deli-style American. So much better than Kraft Singles. Much lower milk content, so it’s more solid. Not individually wrapped, but individually sliced. Higher cheddar and Colby content, so its flavor is better. Still melts beautifully. Best burger cheese out there, IMO.

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          How could it be lower milk content? Cheese is 99.9% milk by definition, especially actual cheese (not sure what’s in this Kraft stuff). The only additive is supposed to be the starter culture.

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            American cheese is processed. Depending on the amount of milk added during that processing, you get a product with a more or less firm consistency.

            Singles are liquid when they’re poured into the wrap, and then they solidify. In this they end up being far less like traditional cheese.

            Check out the Wikipedia page for more detail.

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      Kraft does sell non-singles sliced american cheese. Nothing between the slices and it doesn’t stick together. Also doesn’t have that plasticy taste.

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    Remember when fruit stickers used to be paper and biodegradable? Now they’re all fucking plastic because they need their logo to be shinier I guess.

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      American cheese is the best cheese for a cheeseburger because it melts without splitting.

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      I still think its odd that people call that american cheese. Like, do people in the USA really want their name attached to that stuff?

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        The name brand in the US is Kraft Singles, but at least here that type of orange cheese is just referred to as American regardless of brand

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        I’ve never heard of Chester cheese. There’s Cheshire cheese, but that’s quite crumbly and wouldn’t hold up to being packaged like this. You might also be thinking of cheddar. A genuine cheddar would be too brittle, but in modern marketing, cheddar is often shorthand for any homogenous, yellow cheese. So this stuff might be described as cheddar on the packet.

        I think this stuff is more of a cheese-flavoured sauce, that they inject into the bags and leave to set. It’s more an invention of the convenience food industry, than any culinary tradition.

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      I have come full circle. I loved processed American cheese food (pacf) when I was a kid because I was a kid. Then I got into fancy sliced cheeses like cheddar and Gouda. But they don’t melt as nicely! So now back to pacf for burgers and melts because it is the best ingredient for that job.

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      Things can be related to more than one thing at a time. Banning single use plastics will be cheaper for corporations that offer them for free but it’s also better for the environment if they do not exist for decades or centuries after they’ve been used.

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    Two things: these are basically plastic anyways.

    Also, the plastic straw thing was a PR move. Corporations don’t give any shits unless it will make money or lose them money.

    I’m sure there was a nontrivial number of customers who either boycotted or threatened to boycott companies that didn’t switch. When their bottom line gets threatened like that, they take action to prevent revenue loss.

    Nothing more. There’s way more problems with everything than plastic straws. My favorite PR move is how they convinced everyone that their cars are causing the majority of CO2 emissions from transit… Between that and airplanes, everyone is up in arms about the electrification of everything… Yet, the most major transport offenders are freight, and they have no plans or intention of changing their ways. I heard somewhere that if you were to have zero carbon emissions for your entire life, you would save the approximate amount that freight liners emit in a year, at most. I think a year is too long. I forget the exact figure.

    They emit more CO2 than all the cars, and all the planes and everything else you could point to… Yet, I have yet to hear anyone tell me about it, either personally, or on the news or anything. Everyone seems oblivious to the facts. They latch on to these “issues” like straws and personal vehicle CO2 emissions which are trivial…

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      People saw that video of the sea turtle with the straw in its nose and, rightfully, got mad. If only they also got mad about microplastics being inside everyone and everything.

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        Public outrage from one, probably staged, viral video.

        There’s a disturbing number of viral videos that are downright animal abuse against turtles just for views.

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    Fake Plastic Cheese, good radiohead song.

    I admit growing up pretty poor, these were considered a treat lol.

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        I don’t know what you’re talking about. The lyrics seem pretty clear about the song being about cheese.

        Her green plastic ez-cheese can

        For her fake Chinese cooking pan

        In the fake cheesy earth

        That she ate from a spray cheese can

        In a town full of muenster plans

        To get rid of American

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        It wears her out

        She lives with a queso hand

        A sliced American hand

        That just crumbles and molds

        He used to get pepper jack

        For girls who want that jack

        But American always wins

        And it wears him out

        It wears him out

        It wears him out

        It wears

        She looks like the fake cheese

        She tastes like the fake cheese

        My fake plastic cheese

        But I can’t help the feeling

        I could chew through the sealing

        If I just turn and taste

        And it wears me out

        It wears me out

        It wears me out

        It wears me out

        And if it could be cheese you wanted

        If it could be cheese you wanted

        All the cheese

        All the cheese

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    Just eat real cheese, not this processed crap that’s so gunky it sticks together. Double win!

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      The “process” is melting, and the “crap” they add is milk and phosphates.

      Calling Kraft singles “not real cheese” is the equivalent to calling a sauce Mornay “not real cheese” - technically correct I guess, but its still made out of perfectly safe ingredients and serves it’s purpose well.

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        The “process” is melting and adding emulsifying agents, vegetable oils, unfermented dairy ingredients, salt, food coloring, and sometimes sugar. the end product typically contains about 50-60% cheese.

        and no, a mornay is not a cheese, its a sauce.

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        Took a lot of digging to find a sane comment. No one is putting singles out on the charcuterie board, but it has a purpose, and it does it well.

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      They used to sell it without the wrappers though too. But now it’s so unpopular that they often only have tv he individually wrapped ones.

      I buy this stuff once a year for smash burgers in the summer. Use the rest up for grilled cheeses and then try to forget imitation just wasted all that plastic.

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    Considered the following:

    The slices of cheese are analogous to each of our individual lives: it’s boring, manufactured, and there is a wrap of plastic which define us as individuals but keeps separate from one another. The only good aspect of American cheese is that it is designed for melting, so in essence, by removing the plastic barrier that keeps us separated, we, like the humble slices of American cheese, can melt and become part of something greater than our individual selves (like a burger or a grilled cheese).

    Or as Karl Marx once said: Life is plastic, it’s fantastic.

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    I really want American cheese that is not wrapped in plastic. Kraft makes it but it costs more than double the plastic wrapped stuff. I’ve paid that price when times were plenty but they are no more.

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        For the record, good American cheese does exist. It’s just a blend of cheddar and Colby with some annatto for seasoning, instead of the extruded “cheese product” stuff in plastic wrappers.

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          The reason single slice cheese is great for grilled cheese is due to the emulsifiers in it. Even if you use other cheese you want to throw a slice of that in there to bind it all together.

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            Or some other melting cheese like jack. For sure though American cheese or Velveeta are fantastic melting cheeses for a good cheese blend.

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        No thanks. I prefer actual cheese on my sandwich. Not this salt paste. flings the frisbee cheese back at you take this abomination away.