I’m just happy to be here

  • riwo
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    74
    ·
    2 days ago

    please unlock !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

    i want to keep posting on the real lemmy 196. yall do your thing here if u like, but leave me out of that

    • setVeryLoud(true);@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      2 days ago

      Ditto, I don’t support the move.

      I want my trans-friendly community on my trans-friendly server, not .world

      We’ll continue there without the current mod team.

    • Walk_blesseD
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      Welp, they did it. Just not really sure what happens now. I should hope some new members who are a bit more in touch with the community get appointed to the team.

  • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    1 day ago

    Can someone tell me why we are moving and why I should care?

    I’m too busy spamming shitposts to pay much attention.

  • Zorsith
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    58
    ·
    2 days ago

    Have you considered not trying to forcibly migrate a community from one instance to another (without community consensus), and instead building a community with its own merits?

  • Walk_blesseD
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    62
    ·
    2 days ago

    Was there any consultation with the community on this decision?

    • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      2 days ago

      Why should there have been one?

      Moss and the Modteam are the ones for whom instance swap changes the most, and as far as I know, they have been discussing this for a long time.

      All “we” as users have to do is press the subscribe button.

      • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        2 days ago

        If you don’t ask the community first, then what you’re doing is not “moving the community”, it’s just abandoning the community and starting a new one

      • Walk_blesseD
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        33
        ·
        2 days ago

        If you look in the other thread you’ll see there’s a bunch of community members (myself included) concerned that this decision signals a decline in the standards to which it is moderated. The moderator team has given assurances that this won’t happen, but that raises the question of why this change is even necessary.

        Additionally there’s the concern that this decision will further centralise control over lemmy in a small number of instances.

        Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.

        Furthermore, instead of locking down the existing community when they moved over here, the mod team could have appointed new members who don’t have a problem with the manner in which the blahaj lemmy instance is moderated. There’s clearly users who want to stay there, and some who won’t move over here.

        • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          2 days ago

          I belive that only a small percentile of people really care about this.

          If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.

          Being able to just leave and set up and run a Community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!

          Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.

          The move to .world was not to cater to some demand, it was as far as I know, mostly because of disagreement with the instance Admin/ Owner.

          • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.cafe
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            26
            ·
            2 days ago

            If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.

            They already have their community, it’s !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              2 days ago

              This is part of the deal you make when joining a community with active mods, admins, and rules. Not everything is up for debate. I know firsthand that this can be quite frustrating sometimes, but we can’t act like everything else has always been subject to election up to this point. It simply was not.

              And again:

              Being able to just leave and set up and run a community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!

              Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own! You can do that with an ease that was unheard of before. The only thing you can’t do is force people to act the way you want them to.

              • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.cafe
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                18
                ·
                2 days ago

                Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own!

                Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.

                There’s a reason !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com exists. One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belong to the users.

                • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  2 days ago

                  Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.

                  When you create a community, you are the mod of the community you created, and you can choose to move or stay. So I don’t know which mods you are talking about.

                  One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belongs to the users.

                  Yes, by being able to leave and create your own community. You can even run your own instance, giving you total control over everything on it.

          • Walk_blesseD
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            21
            ·
            2 days ago

            I belive [sic] that only a small percentile of people really care about this.

            Maybe you’re right about that. But given how badly the post and most of the mods’ comments are getting ratio’d in that thread, I’m inclined to disagree.

            • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              2 days ago

              Could be!

              The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens. Maybe this 196 goes down and everyone moves to another. Maybe not. It’s always a question of, “Did it bother you enough to stop using it?” For me, the answer is “no.” Maybe for some, the answer is “yes.” I can’t tell.

  • toothbrush
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    83
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    wait, why not blahaj? I dont get it, it was well moderated there :(

    There should have been more communication or a poll or something, lemmy world is not known for its clean moderation :(

  • seawoowaes@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    edit-2
    19 hours ago

    Hey so im just a lurker but im really worried about this move:

    We all know Meta just allowed all sorts of vile anti lgbt posting on their platform so how do we know .world isn’t going that way?

    You said you have a line to the top admin, is that Ruud who wants to federate with Threads, a Meta product that will allow transphobia against community members?

    “Communities should not be overly moderated in order to enforce a specific narrative. Respectful disagreement should be allowed in a smaller proportion to the established narrative” - LW admins

    Especially concerning since they are forcing communities to allow dissent, just like Meta, so TERFs can just roll up in this community and you have to allow them?

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      2 days ago

      any and all terfs from threads or otherwise will be banned. if threads is added as a federated instance, we will simply add them to our list of probation instances in the rules alongside lemmygrad and hexbear. in addition, the way we run our community does not count as enforcing a narrative. because that rule does not apply to us, we do not have to deal with it.

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 days ago

      I wouldn’t be so sure. give it a few days to settle, then let me know how you’re feeling

  • miss phant
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    2 days ago

    My first reaction was “ew” and after reading into the reasons I still don’t agree but I respect it. I’m a bit thrown off by there not having been any discussion of this before if it has been “ongoing for months”, though I’m mostly a lurker and maybe I have just missed it.

    It honestly looks and feels so wrong but fuck it we ball I guess.

    • moss@lemmy.worldOPM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      2 days ago

      I didn’t hold a poll, because unlike other changes we’ve made to this community this does not affect our policy nor ethos. while the community is now being hosted on a different instance, we are running it exactly the same as we did on blahaj.zone.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    edit-2
    2 days ago

    As a long time community member, I hope .world doesn’t defederate from .ml. This instance has always been “reddity”. This community has always been one of my favorites. I’d hate to lose it.

  • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    2 days ago

    I’ve just read the other Post at blahaj.zone and now I want to give you (and your team) some encouragement!

    Lots of People are upset but I’m not one of them. I like 196 for the Vibes and the memes not the Instance. Some People act like the Instance was THE THING why people subscribed. And (at least for me) it was not. It was literally the only Community (I’m aware of) I subscribed to on blahaj.zone.

    And I also agree with you that some Moderation decisions were a bit… Questionable.

    Keep up the good work and don’t let the other Folks drag you down, there is always grumbling when things change! 🌈

        • Walk_blesseD
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          2 days ago

          apparently they were unaware that they’d been appointed, but I couldn’t pass up this opportunity.

          • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            2 days ago

            I just hope I didn’t do a bad Job and discredited the other mods with my Replies .__.

            I just kept writing from my own point of view :o

            • Walk_blesseD
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              2 days ago

              I hope not lol. Funny though I think the situation is, I did believe you when you said you didn’t know.

              btw it looks like your (now disused?) feddit.de account is on the mod team in the LBZ comm. were you maybe a 196 mod in the past and kinda forgot about it when you switched accounts? idk

              • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.worldM
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                edit-2
                2 days ago

                The whole Feddit.de instance died under some mysterious circumstances.

                The owner of the Instance left for a Work trip to South east Asia and never came back. At least he never came back online. Then the instance started to have some technical trouble which we couldn’t fix without the owner. After continued degeneration we moved all communitys to feddit.org. I can’t even log into my feddit.de account anymore because it’s so broken.

                Even the domain feddit.de is broken.

                And since .world is not really popular over at blahaja.zone I felt like there would be some trouble if I tried to become Mod with my Main Account.

                • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  2 days ago

                  And since .world is not really popular over at blahaja.zone I felt like there would be some trouble if I tried to become Mod with my Main Account.

                  are you cis?

          • qaz@lemmy.worldM
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            1 day ago

            No, they were already part of the team on blahaj. We aren’t just appointing everyone who agrees with us in this thread, in that case our team would have grown by like a whole 3 members