Hey don’t say everything was perfect the way it went down. A heads up would have been nice for sure! But moss and the modteam did not broke any rules (that I’m aware of) by doing it this way, neither on blahaj.zone nor an lemmy.world.
!android@lemmy.world ended up reopening after it was arbitrary closed to promote another community, without prior consultation, creating dissatisfaction among the users similar to what we are seeing here.
If you look in the other thread you’ll see there’s a bunch of community members (myself included) concerned that this decision signals a decline in the standards to which it is moderated. The moderator team has given assurances that this won’t happen, but that raises the question of why this change is even necessary.
Additionally there’s the concern that this decision will further centralise control over lemmy in a small number of instances.
Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.
Furthermore, instead of locking down the existing community when they moved over here, the mod team could have appointed new members who don’t have a problem with the manner in which the blahaj lemmy instance is moderated. There’s clearly users who want to stay there, and some who won’t move over here.
I belive that only a small percentile of people really care about this.
If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.
Being able to just leave and set up and run a Community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!
Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.
The move to .world was not to cater to some demand, it was as far as I know, mostly because of disagreement with the instance Admin/ Owner.
I belive [sic] that only a small percentile of people really care about this.
Maybe you’re right about that. But given how badly the post and most of the mods’ comments are getting ratio’d in that thread, I’m inclined to disagree.
The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens. Maybe this 196 goes down and everyone moves to another. Maybe not.
It’s always a question of, “Did it bother you enough to stop using it?” For me, the answer is “no.” Maybe for some, the answer is “yes.”
I can’t tell.
If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.
This is part of the deal you make when joining a community with active mods, admins, and rules. Not everything is up for debate. I know firsthand that this can be quite frustrating sometimes, but we can’t act like everything else has always been subject to election up to this point. It simply was not.
And again:
Being able to just leave and set up and run a community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!
Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own! You can do that with an ease that was unheard of before. The only thing you can’t do is force people to act the way you want them to.
Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.
When you create a community, you are the mod of the community you created, and you can choose to move or stay. So I don’t know which mods you are talking about.
One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belongs to the users.
Yes, by being able to leave and create your own community. You can even run your own instance, giving you total control over everything on it.
Was there any consultation with the community on this decision?
Nope
Why should there have been one?
Moss and the Modteam are the ones for whom instance swap changes the most, and as far as I know, they have been discussing this for a long time.
All “we” as users have to do is press the subscribe button.
Both asked their communities before moving. As respect and politeness towards their members.
Hey don’t say everything was perfect the way it went down. A heads up would have been nice for sure! But moss and the modteam did not broke any rules (that I’m aware of) by doing it this way, neither on blahaj.zone nor an lemmy.world.
You can see this other example on !android@lemmy.world
Okay? Thank you for showing me.
But what are you trying to tell me with this? That other People do something diffrent than others?
!android@lemmy.world ended up reopening after it was arbitrary closed to promote another community, without prior consultation, creating dissatisfaction among the users similar to what we are seeing here.
Hopefully this is what will happen here too.
Okay? Thank you for this insight into Lemmy history.
If you look in the other thread you’ll see there’s a bunch of community members (myself included) concerned that this decision signals a decline in the standards to which it is moderated. The moderator team has given assurances that this won’t happen, but that raises the question of why this change is even necessary.
Additionally there’s the concern that this decision will further centralise control over lemmy in a small number of instances.
Then there’s the fact that 196 is kinda redundant on .world given that multiple shitposting comms already exist there.
Furthermore, instead of locking down the existing community when they moved over here, the mod team could have appointed new members who don’t have a problem with the manner in which the blahaj lemmy instance is moderated. There’s clearly users who want to stay there, and some who won’t move over here.
I belive that only a small percentile of people really care about this.
If enough people are so angry then they will make their own community over at blahaj.zone and proof me wrong but if not, then I guess there probably wasn’t enough demand.
Being able to just leave and set up and run a Community the way you like it is the backbone and the biggest strength of the Fediverse!
The move to .world was not to cater to some demand, it was as far as I know, mostly because of disagreement with the instance Admin/ Owner.
Maybe you’re right about that. But given how badly the post and most of the mods’ comments are getting ratio’d in that thread, I’m inclined to disagree.
Could be!
The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens. Maybe this 196 goes down and everyone moves to another. Maybe not. It’s always a question of, “Did it bother you enough to stop using it?” For me, the answer is “no.” Maybe for some, the answer is “yes.” I can’t tell.
They already have their community, it’s !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
This is part of the deal you make when joining a community with active mods, admins, and rules. Not everything is up for debate. I know firsthand that this can be quite frustrating sometimes, but we can’t act like everything else has always been subject to election up to this point. It simply was not.
And again:
Start a community and run it the way you like! Expand the Fediverse! Make a place truly your own! You can do that with an ease that was unheard of before. The only thing you can’t do is force people to act the way you want them to.
Perfect, and then the mods will lock it down and move to an instance I dislike.
There’s a reason !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com exists. One strength of the Fediverse is indeed that the community belong to the users.
When you create a community, you are the mod of the community you created, and you can choose to move or stay. So I don’t know which mods you are talking about.
Yes, by being able to leave and create your own community. You can even run your own instance, giving you total control over everything on it.
Sorry, let me rephrase it: “Perfect, and then I will lock it down and move it to an instance a majority of the community members dislike.”
You realize you would be the mod if you start a community, right?
https://lemmy.ca/post/37440924/13986416
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