People out here stating obvious human problems and I’m out here like: why do humans like Chocolate?
Dancing.
I’m biased because I’m rythmically deficient, but it makes no sense to me. It’s just weird wiggling.
Worse still is clubbing, which is just dancing in a hot, sweaty dark room where the drinks are $13 each amd you don’t get to pick the music, or turn the volume down.
This might be the most boomer thing I’ve ever written.
Go put on a banger and weirdly wiggle to it.
There’s no way to describe the emotion it gives you. You just have to find a banger, and wiggle weirdly while it plays.
Dancing is a product of human brain rewarding pattern recognition, if it helps you make sense of it. Kinda like music and poetry - “hey I recognize repeating sounds and language structures”, dancing is “hey, I move together with repeating sounds”. There are also aspects like trying to make movements aesthetically pleasing, physically challenging, moving together in sync with other people and so on. Clubbing is a related activity, but more of a social one. Some people enjoy being together with other people and being able to let loose. They speak with their bodies as they move in rhythm with the music. Not my thing either, but it is possible to understand those who enjoy this activity.
How some people have to constantly get into someone else’s business that doesn’t have any negative affect on their lives or society and try to force the latter to conform to the former’s worldview. Religion is notorious for this, demanding others conform to the ideology’s rules even if they have no desire to participate or believe, but it can also be as simple as being critical of someone’s differences and trying to make them change.
People being mean or cruel to other people or living things just to see them suffer. I don’t understand it.
People who stay with abusive partners the first time they are abused
The first time he loses his temper and screams how stupid you are is shocking. And then he apologizes and love-bombs and you write it off as a one-time bad day, confident it won’t happen again. The next time when he screams how useless you are, the love bomb and apology are accompanied with a perfectly calm and logical (and apologetic) explanation of how you made him lose his cool and if you just wouldn’t X, he wouldn’t get so mad… Eventually when he screams and calls you names, you are the one apologizing and begging forgiveness…
By the time he actually hits you, you are already convinced that you are the problem and if you just wouldn’t make him so mad, he wouldn’t lose his cool - and you’re so worthless and useless and bad at life that you are lucky he wants you at all and no one else would even give you the time a day…
I understand the way abusers/narcissists convince the victim. Sorry, it sounds like you know first hand and hope you’re in a better place
Being autistic, the instant someone is rude or abusive on purpose with the intent to cause harm or stress, I’m out. No apologizing will ever make me forget they purposely wanted to cause me harm. If I would never purposely hurt someone, then I expect the same
It’s crazy that people forgive the first time they’re abused by someone
Preferring looks over functionality.
So many things in today’s world are dogshit covered in a pretty wrapper and everyone eats it up. Meanwhile things that actually work well and last get ignored because they’re not pretty.
I’m not saying things can’t be pretty but you should never put form over function.
I STRONGLY believe in the whole, “form follows function”, idea. Something that fulfills is intended purpose well, repeatedly, efficency, etc. is beautiful to me
Well, the idea of using unfinished concrete (the origin of the movement’s name) was something of a modern/internationalist reaction to the earlier excesses of nouveau and deco really. It wasn’t that concrete is a superior material for structure, the ancients knew that. A better current example (that argues the opposite to your point unfortunately!) of form following function is cheap [edit: cheap isn’t what I meant, more ‘the cheapest available using today’s sophisticated engineering’, which obviously isn’t cheap but real estate doesn’t have that reputation anyway] curtain walls in high rises. Pretty insipid but people love it; there’s no accounting for taste, especially among those who have no appreciation for the finer things.
Like, cloth curtains to divide interior spaces, instead of actual walls??
No - curtain walls are where there’s no wall, just a window attached to the frame as in most modern office buildings. Apologies meant to respond to @HelixDab2 below who mentioned béton brut :)
No worries at all, happy to learn something new
I generally agree with this, but I would like to remind everyone not to take this generalization and run too far in the other direction. A video game that is a perfect simulation of something but has a bad art style will be less enjoyable than a game with a great art style, even if the art detracts from the perfect simulation somewhat.
True, just don’t word it like that when you’re telling your partner why you love them.
This product costs $14 to make, they sell it for $30.
They remove three screws and replace the beautiful $6 screen with a bottom of the barrel $3 screen saving $3.06. People would easily pay $5 more for the nicer screen, but they can only focus on cost cutting instead of making a still modestly priced great product.
how much should they sell then?
Instead of enshittifying every product into the minimum viable disposable product? Hell, put in the $3.06 and charge us $6-$9 more.
A type, true believer office people.
It’s all laid out, you have at most 100 years and 50ish healthy ones if you’re extremely lucky, and you want to spend more energy then you absolutely have to… micromanaging others and bragging about maximizing your office work output as you eek out a living?
I genuinely find the coworkers that try to drown themselves in corpo kool-aid disturbing. Soulless. I find them as sad and pathetic as they probably find me for my half hearted, clearly mocking impression of corpo culture, as I don’t show my true self at work.
Like just… Why? It’s a job. The owner truly doesn’t care if you live or die. Stop bragging that you canceled on your family yet again in favor of your "work family."🤮 They think they’re setting an example for their coworkers to follow, but I’m just sitting there pitying them.
Couldn’t agree more (current boss is one such preoccupant) except it’s spelled eke in this case, eek is for the onomatopoeic noise when frightened.
When I see that particular typo I get all giddy imagining someone just getting paid to scream out in shock over and over
“EEEEEEEEEKKK! I just got my first paycheck and there’s a spider on it!”
Over compensating when an injustice is learned. We don’t change anything meaningful, it seems, and when this happens, we create a whole new problem
Insisting to spend your attention on exactly 1 (one) significant other.
I can’t imagine being monogamous.
Hahahaha I’m the other way around, I can’t imagine having enough energy and attention for more than one person
Excellent answer you shouldn’t be downvoted for. I fully disagree because I’m terminally monogamous, but I have poly friends who are very happy to be poly!
A lot of ceremony-like events confuse me.
They seem designed to be as tedious and gruelling as possible. Consider Graduation Ceremonies, or the ceremonial part of Weddings. Just hours in a hard chair, listening to some old motherfucker blabber on and on about random bullshit. (the parties afterwards I understand and respect, even if I’m the opposite of a party person. The only thing I like about parties is the excuse to dress up and eat cake. But hey, people enjoy dancing and drinking and stuff, that makes sense to me.)
Is this some Neurotypical thing I’m too Autistic to understand? Like do people actually enjoy this?
EDIT: Actually, since I brought up drinking when talking about parties.
… I don’t comprehend people that like alcoholic drinks. It’s one thing to enjoy the feeling of being buzzed, we all want to turn off our brains sometimes, and of course it is literally addicting.
But I am talking about people who apparently enjoy the taste. Every type of booze I tried tasted like something between “medicine” and “actual poison”.
People will spend a fortune in Wines and Beers and they all just taste bad. Then they’ll swear up and down “no no dude, this wine is super sweet” and then you try it and it tastes like every other wine, which is to say it tastes like you took grape juice and sucked out all the joy.
My wedding was like 15 minutes long and then we went out for hibachi. It was PERFECT.
Ceremonies are lightweight brainwashing, designed to make people act and/or think in certain ways. Always have been. No matter if they are religious or secular.
Consider graduation ceremonies. You are being handed a piece of paper, that basically signify you did what some teachers asked you to do for x years, mostly memorizing useless shit. But they don’t want you, and employers to think what that paper really is. They want everyone to think the paper is important. So they have hours long ceremony, where everything is designed to make the fact you are handed the paper feel important.
I don’t think anyone really likes ceremonies as such. They like the feeling the ceremony is designed to evoke, or what the ceremony signifies.
Next time you get a choice of alcoholic beverage, try some Malibu (coconut rum) and Cranberry juice.
I’m with you on the ceremony stuff. I’d rather skip it
Yet I find those drinks disgusting. My preferences for alcoholic drinks, just l8e any other place I have a choice, lean heavily on bitter. We all have our own preferences
they all just taste bad
Is it that hard to believe people like some alcohols just because they like the taste? And that they can stop at just one?
It’s not hard to believe. I’ve seen it happen after all.
It’s hard to UNDERSTAND. I’m not gonna call you names if you like bitter beers or whatever… I just plain ol’ don’t get how.
Because to me all bitter flavours feel like a punishment.
It’s an acquired taste. As a kid you might just want to look cool drinking beer. By the time that passes (if it does), the bitterness doesn’t taste quite as bitter anymore, and other tastes come through. Same for spirits and the burning sensation.
Not technically a behavior, but - having hurt feelings over other people expressing their negative opinion about myself.
Like, say someone tells me I look bad of that I acted badly or whatever. I see three options:
- They’re right, so it’s a good thing they told me.
- They’re mistaken, so it doesn’t really matter (though the fact some people might think that way is still valid information)
- They’re being mean, in which case I don’t really care about what they say.
I guess it’s some defense mechanism? I can see how that would work with people prone to narcissism, but having ones feeling hurt over things like that seems normalized in (most?) societies.
Oh, also religion. People believe in an all powerful being that personally cares about every person in the world, but is unwilling to reveal itself? Despite having zero corroborating evidence? And he’s responsible for every good thing that happens to me therefore I should see that as proof it exists and believe more, but if something bad happens that’s because I didn’t believe hard enough and should therefore believe more? And you’re sure about that and don’t see how that might be purely because this answers a psychological and social need? I understand I’m exaggerating a bit, and no offense to religious people, but… I don’t get it.
Points 2 and 3 are all well and good right up until that person is in a position of power over you.
I see where you’re coming from and understand why some don’t get it, but it’s the third one. People are very mean, including me, and especially when they are anonymous or feel they’ll get away with it.
The first two - they’re giving constructive criticism, or they’re plain wrong - assume the person is not coming from a mean place. I wonder if you’re neurodiverse or a very experienced meditator or something if you can really always shrug off a nasty remark intended to hurt.
I’m neurodiverse and took a lot of throwaway hurtful comments to heart as a kid, not because I couldn’t tell they were trying to he hurtful, but because I believed there had to be some truth or insight into what they said. When I developed more self-respect I got fewer such remarks when I appeared visibly furious, or gave the same back in return. But I still take hurtful remarks - intentional or not - to heart by nature.
Point being, not everyone has as thick as skin as you, and hurtful remarks do indeed hurt many/most people no matter how much we talk about the relative damaged done by sticks and stones vs names. Hurtful intentions can convey hurt to most generally empathetic people I think. Appreciate any other views as I’m just trying to address this one as I see it. Peace
It’s not just the third one. A non-marginal minority of people will be hurt by valid criticism even if it meant to to help them (I’m saying this as a third party observer. This isn’t me telling someone “Hey, you’re an idiot. Whoa, why are you acting offended? I’m just trying to help you be less of an idiot! Wow, some people can’t take constructive criticism”).
I know I’m at the low end of caring what people think about me, and that other people will get offended by some things. That’s fine, not saying they’re wrong to feel one way or another. I just can’t empathize or model the mechanism that makes them feel that way.
That’s true, I was oversimplifying by focusing on the third but the same applies whether remarks are intended to hurt, be neutral, or explicitly to help - point is people often assume it’s the first or respond as if it is. Some people can shrug it off but I can’t.
Smoking. Let’s see, I could pay a ton of money for something that reeks and damages my health and the health of those around me, that once I start I’ll become addicted to so I’ll struggle to quit even if I want to, or I could, uh, not. Yeah let’s go with not.
Also, vaping. Somehow, vaping seems even dumber than smoking.
As someone who recently quit tobacco let me tell you: cigarettes are amazing! A cup of coffee, a crossword and a good summer morning on a patio is basically heaven. Smoking is cool and makes you look cool too! Everyone should smoke.
Yeah, I’ll believe the addictive qualities for sure. However “cool” has not been true for years. I’ll never forget in college where some friends would encourage me to join them outside “where the cool people are smoking”, yet it always seemed like 2-3 people outside alone not enjoying a party or whatever. At least I was there because I’m an introvert and the party is exhausting, not fooling myself about thinking it cool.
Devil’s advocate. (I do not actually condone cigs, they smell like burnt butt).
As a non (extremely sparse) smoker who’s pretty sure he’s incapable of actually getting addicted, counterpoint: nicotine tingly tho. 😚
My uncle always said "he’s not addicted, he can stop at any time.
he knows because he’s done it a thousand times."
It’s like new relationships. The tingles stop after like a week. At which point you’ve got yourself a new obligation and feel increasingly like death with each passing day.
You…might be doing relationships wrong.
I’ve been with my partner over ten years and I get tingles every time I see them if I’ve been away from them for a while.
I also smoke occasionally (when I’m very drunk, cigs make me feel like trash when I’m sober) and they always FLOOR me. The trick is to do it very sparingly (if you want that trash in your life)
“All things in moderation” springs to mind. Hitting the occasional vape at game night or out at the local discotheque certainly works a charm. But on occasion while being, as you said, ripping drunk (ideally at like a metal show or sum’m otherwise debaucherous), honking on a proper ciggy can scratch a very particular itch. Ooh, or that morning after a wild night having coffee and cigarette. Hits different.
Terrible, nasty habit tho’. Getting addicted to nicotine is miserable from what I’ve seen. Stay in school, kids!
I smoked habitually for like nine months when I was younger, and I am very lucky… I smoked like half’a pack a day, and one day I smoked a cigarette and it felt like GARBAGE. I took a couple days off and tried again… GARBAGE. That was the end of my habitual smoking hahaha
Now, as far as my partner goes, no moderation there. I’m with them almost all day every day and we both LOVE that so much. We miss each other when we’re not around each other. I am so thankful to have found my clone.
(Wo)men screaming when something unexpected scary/frightening happems
It’s a warning to others and a simultaneous cry for help, it’s hardwired into our primate brains from the days when your packs survival depended on getting away from the tiger/snake/rival pack/fire asap
And to add to this,
Girls are allowed to feel emotions. Boys get theirs beaten out of them.
Hence screaming for help is considered a woman thing.
Adding to this: Women are culturally encouraged to feel and express specific emotions while Men are culturally encouraged to feel and express different, specific emotions. How one ought to behave is dependent on the culture on a grand scale, and those expectations skew how people observe gendered behavior.
For example, women who speak candidly are more likely to be considered flawed and viewed negatively. Or a woman who screams is acting normally while a man who screams is an outlier, no matter how many times men are observed screaming.
A fantasy book series I really like has a book late in the series where the support powerful protagonist gets transplanted to another culture and while training his guards/knights/soldiers/whatever teaches them martial arts style yelling as they strike, because the culture is very individualistic and he wants them to yell for help without them objecting to yelling for help
fun fact: this arvo i walked i to the kitchen where the hubs was focused on cooking up a storm, cat bitch-meowed at me. I bitch meowed back, startled husband shouts JESUS.
You scare a human, they make a noise.
I meant something less logical than getting scared/startled.
Example from some random internet video: A transporter lost traction on a snowy hilly street and sled uncontrolled back the hill. The woman started screaming for her life as if she was on fire. Dunno how that helps. Seems irrational to me.
Afaik the only thing that got damaged on her property was a US-type mailbox. Not the garden, no flower got harmed. Like okay?
Not putting your fucking shopping cart away. There’s no better way for me to explain it than the shopping cart theory:
A bit similar to this: leaving a table or waiting place and pushing your chair in.
I have my own variant on this which I call the Neapolitan Ice Cream test
Neapolitan Ice Cream has three flavours.
Logically, everyone has a favourite and an un-favourite of the three.
No one will judge you if you dig out just the flavour you like… But the right thing to do. The one that is fair to everyone else who is eating the ice cream, is to scoop a straight line that gets a bit of each. Similarly, it’s not some great sacrifice to eat flavours you like a bit less. It’s just less nice.
This tests how fair people are when the stakes are low as shit. Which to me is the true proof of having principles. That you uphold them – Despite there being zero consequence to not doing so, and even a small punishment.
But if everyone has different favorites why should I take some of a flavor that I like less and is someone else’s favorite?
I prefer Strawberry, my wife prefers Chocolate, and we both enjoy vanilla with Syrups. There is no reason for me to deprive my wife of some of the chocolate when I don’t enjoy it as much.
You haven’t considered all the possible intended outcomes the participants envisage in the consumption of the icecream.
It may generally be agreed that strawberry is best, therefore, everyone takes strawberry as their first choice until it runs out, and then maybe vanilla is eaten, the final flavour, chocolate, is finally consumed because there is no other choice and by the time you reach the chocolate all the participants, while agreeing chocolate is the worst, also now have a mild sugar addiction that requires satiation.
In this case the work of consuming the worst flavour is postponed in favour of all participant’s greater enjoyment of earlier scoops, rather than endured as a necessary part of every scoop.
Also scooping across the flavours spreads the chocolate across everything.
Also chocolate doesn’t belong in icecream, it belongs in bars.
…
Why yes, chocolate is my least fav! How did you guess?
Thank goodness we got rid of the strawberry flavored first. The sacrifice of those people will not be in vain: I will remember them as I enjoy the good flavors
I’ll take your chocolate since you hate it so much.
This is so true. The most basic every day test to judge your character
Except at Aldi’s.
If you put your shopping cart away at Aldi’s, you probably hate the poor.
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