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    It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn’t really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn’t ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.

    🎶 Because it’s about class and not about justice. 🎶

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      For what it’s worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I’m not saying it’s always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.

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      This is kinda the OG definition of terrorism actually. Back when 19th century anarchists invented this hot new direct action political tactic called terrorism. It was all the rage, for a while, but it backfired and increased public sympathy towards the bourgeoisie and the nobility.

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      funny how murikans are Super against gun violence all of a sudden when it happened to a rich white male… but not so much when its a class full of poor kids

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    As a person who grew up in American schools post-Columbine, with kids in schools now, and none of us are CEOs, this is probably the take that saddens me most about this whole event. It’s our kids, and the argument used to be about freedom. Soon, we won’t even have that. What was the fucking point? (Rhetorical: profit)

    I know we’re all alive at a special time in humanity. We think we’re so civilized. Then I look around, and it’s the same history playing on repeat. When do the monkeys figure out it’s one species? (Rhetorical again: 😬)

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    They want to make Luigi an example. “Don’t do what he did, he’s being quickly processed with terrorism added to the charges. You don’t wanna be a terrorist do you?”

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      … and in other news: Insurance CEOs are some of the best human beings walking on this Earth! Just this morning, one of them gave $50 to a homeless person who lost everything paying a hospital bill. What a golden heart!

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      The complete lack of understanding someone who is pushed into a corner and has nothing to lose. Someone who expects the worst anyway.

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      It’s not that what Dylan Roof did wasn’t terrorism, it’s that he wasn’t in New York state. Same with that case involving Trump and property values, never would have been charged in Montana for that, everyone knows assessed value and real value are two different things.

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          https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/abortion-clinic-violence-terrorism

          “While the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has maintained that these actions are not terrorism, this article suggests that there is a correspondence between incidents perpetrated between 1982 and 1987 and standards classifications of “limited political” or “subrevolutionary” terrorism. Perhaps the FBI has declined to accept the terrorism definition because of its preoccupation with international events which are seen in terms of administrative or jurisdictional definitions.”

          That’s from 1988.

          From 1977 to 1988, an epidemic of antiabortion violence took place in the United States, involving 110 cases of arson, firebombing, or bombing. The epidemic peaked in 1984, when there were 29 attacks. Nearly all sites (98%) were clinics that provided abortions. The FBI still says that those were not acts of terrorism.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1957842/

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    Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to “terrorism” is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor’s face.

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    I mean, terrorism is just politically motivated violence.

    This country was founded by terrorists.

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    Rumor has it, if you say, “deny, defend, depose” in your phone 3 times, you’ll get charged with terrorism too. Hopefully you’re an American citizen or else it’s off to Guantanamo bay for you.

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      If you say “Gitmo Bay” three times in the mirror, a dark universe Obama appears and snatches you.

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          They just call it “interrogation.”

          (I just felt I had to add the “dark universe” because here in ours he’s comparatively pretty fucking alright when compared to the current leadership of the states. I criticised the US government back in his day as well, but the president isn’t a magical dictator and the longer it goes the more I miss him.)

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    Unfortunately, the people doing it are the media It’s a quintessential “man bites dog” story. Normally it’s the insurance companies killing civilians. Everyone is going to cover it. The police had a manhunt because it would look ridiculous if they didn’t solve such a high-profile case.

    It’s kind of a symbiotic relationship, the media covers it, the police react harshly, the media covers it more.

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    I love how they media seems shocked whenever they find Americans who have been radicalized, when one of their counterparts have been radicalized Americans for the last handful of decades.

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      That’s on purpose - by acting shocked they expect viewers to react the same way. It’s essentially telling their audience how to feel about the story without outright saying “you should feel like this”.

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        The same way the laugh track in sitcoms ques the audience to know that something was supposed to be funny. Try watching those shows without the laugh track and see how funny they feel or how often you laugh

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      Billionaires want to be both political and non-political. They want to be the average person who “worked hard to get where they are without help” and they want to be the special upper class who deserves special protection when one of their own gets shot.

      This is very close to them admitting that class warfare is real.

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      Too many guns, too many people willing to shoot those guns, not enough politicians prioritizing mental health

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        Mental illness like forcing your employees back into the office when they did the job remotely just fine for two years

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        Gun was printed. Do you realize that there is no stopping 3D printed guns now?

        I’ve been in the community for many years, reluctantly due to their right wing tendencies. People are making 50 cal sniper rifles, 38 mm grenade launchers, and fully automatic submachine guns.

        My little AR pistol runs at 10 rounds per second. Legally

        All at home.

        The Glock used by Luigi is an old design. He just made the most reliable one (ignoring the silencer issues)

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      You know that the gun was printed right? You could ban all guns and you would never stop someone from making a homemade gun.

      There are people in European countries where it’s completely illegal to even own ammunition, they are perfectly able to make fully automatic rifles.

      I don’t say any of this as a bad thing btw

      Unless there is a plan to strip violent people of firearms, I’m going to continue to make my own and train twice as much as they do.

      ARM THE LEFT

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    What a shocking surprise. Why stop there? Why not charge him with genocide? Bring him to The Hague and charge him with war crimes?