(FYI - the article that the guy is replying to is misinformation. Two commenters have provided snopes links for anyone curious.)

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    If trans people and Adderall people are outlawed then there will be no tech industry left.

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    Oops, this is some misinformation, friend. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rfk-wellness-farms/

    Exaggerated claims designed to provoke a reaction, even in humorous contexts like this, make it harder for us to perceive and react to actual dangerous threats that might come our way. And we’re definitely going to need to have an accurate and truthful view of the world in the coming days.

    It’s a good joke, it’s a great joke even, but even so, we shouldn’t spread misinformation.

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      Tfw you say something and everyone hates it and then someone else comes by and says the same thing in a slightly different way and everyone likes it 😑

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        That’s on you, the .ml in your name means that everything you say is wrong even when you say the truth.

        Learn how to lemmy /s

    • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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      I was posting more for the funny reply, rather than to share the original article, but I can put a note in the post body that the pictured quoted article is misinformation.

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        “No no bro, it’s going to be totally voluntary, trust me, just watch as we offer it as an alternative to prison, and then criminalize things like ‘taking adderall’.”

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      Idk, I’m sure that many politicians aren’t advocating for LGBTQ youth to be “sent” to conversation camps.

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      On the farms, he said, residents would grow their own organic food—which would help them recover from addiction,

      These people are going to starve to death. It’s difficult enough to farm when you want to farm.

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        Not exactly. My ADHD has only one good use… I am amazing at dealing with worst case scenarios and in fact thrive in them. I will always find a way to do something, survive and enjoy it. I had more fun in Japan when I was broke after I lost my scholarship than I was before I did. I rode a busted old bike with flat tires everywhere, I found ways to scrounge for food, I survived odd of a bag of flour and snuck my mom into my dorm. I have no interest in normal day to day easy life. Put me in the wilderness and make me kill my food.

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          One or two people would be doing all the work while the others would be complaining the whole time.

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        Don’t worry, they’ll have all the most advanced GMO crops, pesticides, and fertilizer. The plants will grow no matter what you do. Whether you want to eat them or not is an open question.

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            I’m pretty sure this is just a farm labor program to replace the migrants they’re deporting. So he isn’t really going to have a say.

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          I mean, it’s RFK Jr. I doubt he would even be able to identify real organic fertilizers anyway. If he were to inspect a site and see fertilizers, even organic fertilizer in bags, he’s probably tell them to throw it out and just just rely on the unamended soil. He would then go home and eat over priced Whole Foods produce that may or may not be honest about the organic label.

      • Trailblazing Braille Taser@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The Mother Jones article presents this as a quote from RFK where he does use the word “farm”. The context of the article is a virtual “Latino town hall” event, so I assume that’s where he said the following:

        I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need—three or four years if they need it—to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities.

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        Yeah sorry should have been more clear I suppose. The narrative they’re trying to perpetuate is that nobody is ill and all of the prescription drugs are unnecessary, and that all the people taking medication for their illnesses really just want to be off of it but have no ability.

        Realistically, yeah he’s going to build the camps, and then it’s a very short hop skip and a jump to court orders putting people there.

        To be honest they should just do an opinion piece saying exactly what we know he’s going to do. We don’t need him to pretend that’s exactly what he said.

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          This is a pretty cool example of media bias distorting facts in order to cause kind of a Shiri’s Scissor scenario in the reader based on where they get their news. Liberal source gives an inaccurate, more interpretive story based on what is already known about the parties involved. I’d wager a more conservative source would just give a direct statement of what RFK said here, which sounds fairly reasonable if you have no bias against the man and his team. Discussing this point becomes incredibly controversial between the groups because we have opposing interpretations of the same event, and it’s difficult to come to any understanding without breaking many things down into smaller parts.

          All this is to say I agree, it should have been an opinion piece. It’s dishonest as it is now and would only cause friction, confusion, and raised hackles. We know how troubled teen camps fail kids, and what happens when bad people have power over vulnerable people. The writing is on the wall, but it’s not clear for all of us. Be less inflammatory and more informative, is what I think news should be.

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      Man who frequently lies is misquoted in a way that is more in line with what he probably meant based on previous statements and actions.

      I’m not surprised.

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    As a person with ADHD, let me just volunteer the following information; the absolute last thing you want… the last thing you want is for a bunch of people with ADHD to be held on a boring farm. Without medication!

    The phrase “herding cats” doesn’t even come close. And ADHD is often comorbid with sleep phase disorder, which means I’m 100% alert all night without the medication that helps me sleep! That gives me lots and lots of time to be a problem!

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    “I’m going to make it so people can go, if you’re convicted of a drug offense, or if you have a drug problem, you can go to one of these places for free.”

    Honestly if people can find happiness by getting away from modern society and living a bucolic lifestyle, I’m all for it.

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      That has to be the most charitable interpretation possible of the incoming fascist government’s intent. It’s literally just slave labour with extra steps.

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      The implication is they’re farm labor camps, so less living with nature and more picking cotton in the sun all day.

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          Like the prison slaves who fight fires in California but are denied firefighting jobs once they are released?

          I saw your sarcasm tag but I just couldn’t help myself.

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        Less picking cotton all day and more fruits and grapes. Or other crops that are still tended by hand, generally by undocumented immigrants.

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        Fascists don’t use language to convey meaning or truth, they use it as a weapon to manipulate. It’s on purpose that they muddy the meaning of words and won’t define terms even in legal bills so their judges can use the worst interpretation of the broad, vague law like the anti lgbtq law in Russia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_anti-LGBT_law

        It’s the same way they try to count legal immigrants in the US under asylum as illegal criminals and won’t define words like woke unless required by a court.

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    He’s in the closet about his own mental health issues, one of which is likely him being ADHD AF.

    So like the closeted gay politicians being the harshest proponents of things like conversion therapies, anti-lgbtq views and legislation, the closeted mental-health-problem asshole is anti-actual-medical-treatment of everything, like anti-vax, anti-adderall, etc.

  • K̺͆e̺͆t̺͆a̺͆m̺͆i̺͆n̺͆e̺͆@sh.itjust.works
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    Yeah you can thank all the non diagnosed & non needing taking medication for diagnosed & needing, for that.

    Fuck you, I actually need it and y’all cause shortages globally. Fuck You. “I perform so much better” No actualmy I barely compete WITH and its a fucking battle all day long. From putting my socks on to actually make a wage. Fuck You.

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      No fuck YOU for throwing addicts under the bus as if that’s not a legit medical problem. Show me one source that says the cause of the shortage is people “not needing taking”.

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        If you’re wondering, 5 percent of white college students adds up to about 3.75 million people who aren’t necessarily addicts and are effectively wasting supply of the drug.

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              It’s mainly because of a manufacturing issue. Increased demand is certainly a factor but there is undeniably much less stimulant medication available than normal from manufacturers.

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                  The government actually limits how much each manufacturer is allowed to produce, that’s the actual cause of the shortage.

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      My body my choice to put what drugs i want in me right?

      Oh wait, democrats don’t believe in bodily autonomy.

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    Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit Ritalin! Not that it matters, 99% of us are getting fucked to some depth. Disadvantaged people first, then minorities and women, as is custom.