Fr. I went to the fedora discord and after asking a question in the help channel a guy straight up told me to Google it. Wow, so helpful, I wonder why Linux doesn’t have more users
TBF, you went to the Fedora discord, which is not officially run by Fedora. Fedora only officially runs their Matrix server and forum.
If I’m being completely honest, IME if you have to use Discord or Telegram for support, you might as well use ChatGPT. Something about those platforms makes people such assholes. People on forums are generally lovely. Matrix can be hit or miss.
edit: also, 4 year fedora user here, if theres anything I can do to help please let me know :)
I mean, that is still part of the Linux community. Thanks for the offer but by now I think I solved most of my annoyances (though it took a long time and was quite painful…)
Im not denying they aren’t. Just trying to give honest advice about where to get good advice. Hopefully in the future things won’t take as long or be as painful :(
That’s reassuring. I have avoided Discord mostly, because it’s obviously a poor format for sharing information, but I had to dive in recently for help with a niche hobby. Every other source just directed people to the Discord.
Every time I thought I found an answer, it was in a thread of people disagreeing over every bit of advice, interwoven with parallel disagreements over unrelated advice.
What’s the appeal? Does Discord just create the illusion of usefulness by overwhelmingly users with low quality… ah yes, the ChatGPT comparison is fitting.
The appeal is the people. It became the most popular platform for group chats among younger people and tech savvy people due to its ease of use. Its since been enshitified to hell and back. Not that I would say any walled garden platform isnt enshitified to begin with at this point.
TBF, they’re not talking about the official fedora devs or what they’re doing but the community in general. I would assume the Fedora discord is the largest discord dedicated to Fedora and whether we like it or not it’s a representation of the linux community.
In what way was I being hostile? I reread my comment and I really can’t figure it out. The first paragraph reads as very dismissive of OPs complaint, it just seemed to me like you missed the point OP was making.
I appreciate the helpfulness in pointing OP to better resources though!
The copying of my type-style with the capital “TBF” at the beginning came off as hostile. I apologize if that wasn’t the intention. I wasn’t trying to be dismissive as much as just provide knowledge Ive discovered as someone who has been around longer than new people, but shorter than the wizards.
Fr. I went to the fedora discord and after asking a question in the help channel a guy straight up told me to Google it. Wow, so helpful, I wonder why Linux doesn’t have more users
TBF, you went to the Fedora discord, which is not officially run by Fedora. Fedora only officially runs their Matrix server and forum.
If I’m being completely honest, IME if you have to use Discord or Telegram for support, you might as well use ChatGPT. Something about those platforms makes people such assholes. People on forums are generally lovely. Matrix can be hit or miss.
edit: also, 4 year fedora user here, if theres anything I can do to help please let me know :)
I mean, that is still part of the Linux community. Thanks for the offer but by now I think I solved most of my annoyances (though it took a long time and was quite painful…)
Im not denying they aren’t. Just trying to give honest advice about where to get good advice. Hopefully in the future things won’t take as long or be as painful :(
That’s reassuring. I have avoided Discord mostly, because it’s obviously a poor format for sharing information, but I had to dive in recently for help with a niche hobby. Every other source just directed people to the Discord.
Every time I thought I found an answer, it was in a thread of people disagreeing over every bit of advice, interwoven with parallel disagreements over unrelated advice.
What’s the appeal? Does Discord just create the illusion of usefulness by overwhelmingly users with low quality… ah yes, the ChatGPT comparison is fitting.
The appeal is the people. It became the most popular platform for group chats among younger people and tech savvy people due to its ease of use. Its since been enshitified to hell and back. Not that I would say any walled garden platform isnt enshitified to begin with at this point.
TBF, they’re not talking about the official fedora devs or what they’re doing but the community in general. I would assume the Fedora discord is the largest discord dedicated to Fedora and whether we like it or not it’s a representation of the linux community.
I was just trying to be helpful, I wasn’t arguing over whether or not the Discord was the largest representation. Why did you get so hostile? :(
In what way was I being hostile? I reread my comment and I really can’t figure it out. The first paragraph reads as very dismissive of OPs complaint, it just seemed to me like you missed the point OP was making.
I appreciate the helpfulness in pointing OP to better resources though!
The copying of my type-style with the capital “TBF” at the beginning came off as hostile. I apologize if that wasn’t the intention. I wasn’t trying to be dismissive as much as just provide knowledge Ive discovered as someone who has been around longer than new people, but shorter than the wizards.