• beeng@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Fucking shit article.

    Different network state to Bilajis? Since that was always opt in afaik.

    From the website from the book.

    A network state is a highly aligned online community with a capacity for collective action that crowdfunds territory around the world and eventually gains diplomatic recognition from pre-existing states.

    https://thenetworkstate.com/

    Seems like zuck trying to take the Name again like he came up with it, eg Meta.

    Networks are opt in, just like meta product’s.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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      They’re not opt-in when the government is fully captured. They’re not opt-in like every battle against corporate takeover we’ve lost over the last several decades, from net neutrality to effective monopolies to Musk wreaking havoc in the government.

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    I had never heard about the “Network State” concept before, but now I hate it, because Zuckerberg sure as hell loves it

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      It’s fascist city states that market themselves as tax free libertarian, likely hedonistic. Tech has little (maybe ultra deregulated healthcare) to do with anything other than billionaires who came from tech get to decide who is allowed in. This is a model in Israel and Arab kingdoms with less hedonism, but high slavery levels.

      The US is definitely on path to collapse. Current administration is accelerating it. Gifting federal lands to become tax havens is setting it to 11.

      Many of these tech bros also talk about an actual solution: Freedom dividends. High tax libertarianism with freedom for all. Power redistribution. Don’t compete for jobs we can’t do as well as China or robots. Or spend on/promote war. Freedom dividends ends crimes and makes fair labour markets. Fascism and slavery as the “libertarian utopian phoenix from ashes of US” is going to be straight mad max fascism and slavery instead of utopia.

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    This man has a bunker and everything. He’s scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained

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      That’s not a joke, ALL these dudes have extensive doomsday prep. Secure facilities, staffed and stocked. There’s a ton of reporting on it. They’re gonna fare a LOT better than we are if shit gets really outta hand. Unless we do something about them before it gets to that point, anyway.

      Edit: added a detail

    • SmokeytheBeard1@lemm.ee
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      His bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.

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        Yeah because when I think about kicking off world wars, the last locale on my mind is Hawaii

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        What I’m hearing is that after we overthrow the government and Destroy capitalism we have to dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial

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          dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial

          Just weld the door closed. Problem solved.

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          Or, hold a trial, and if convicted, we seal him in his bunker and bury it and cut it off from all outside contact. And depending on the severity of his conviction, plugging up every “air hole” could go along as capital punishment. Give him a very twilight zone ending, he wanted to hide in his bunker, and now he’ll spend the rest of his life in it, however long that may be.

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          It would be most justice most poetic for the coup against Queen Lili’uokalani carried out by American business interests.

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        Bunker on a tropical island you say? Don’t worry, I know of some people that have some notes on that. Any secrets he has about that thing are practically out by now.

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          This is either a shit post or I’m looking at something glowing radioactive hot and I can’t tell which.

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    Streisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!

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    Corporations can’t even run corporations well. That’s one of the lessons we should’ve took from 2008.

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    Delete your facebook products.

    If you know someone who works at facebook, try to convince them to leave.

    If you see someone who’s in a leadership position at Facebook bleeding out, perhaps after a car accident because their brakes were sabotaged, let them die.

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      i wish. if i delete whatsapp ill be completely isolated, even from some businesses. sadly they cornered the entire market in my country including sms.

      it would unironically take a big outage for everyone to move though. heres hoping an industrious hacker is willing to paint that kind of target on their own back.

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        i’ve been trying to get people to switch platforms for years. it’s not easy. if only people cared more about things than they want convenience…

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    The Network State is just feudalism updated to accommodate a new set of vile and toxic elitist shitheads.