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    Streisand effect: I had never heard of the “network state” until now. Uh, thanks for being such an asshole, Zuck!

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      It’s fascist city states that market themselves as tax free libertarian, likely hedonistic. Tech has little (maybe ultra deregulated healthcare) to do with anything other than billionaires who came from tech get to decide who is allowed in. This is a model in Israel and Arab kingdoms with less hedonism, but high slavery levels.

      The US is definitely on path to collapse. Current administration is accelerating it. Gifting federal lands to become tax havens is setting it to 11.

      Many of these tech bros also talk about an actual solution: Freedom dividends. High tax libertarianism with freedom for all. Power redistribution. Don’t compete for jobs we can’t do as well as China or robots. Or spend on/promote war. Freedom dividends ends crimes and makes fair labour markets. Fascism and slavery as the “libertarian utopian phoenix from ashes of US” is going to be straight mad max fascism and slavery instead of utopia.

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    This man has a bunker and everything. He’s scared shitless and he is ready to hide. Their assets need to be seized and accounts drained

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      That’s not a joke, ALL these dudes have extensive doomsday prep. Secure facilities, staffed and stocked. There’s a ton of reporting on it. They’re gonna fare a LOT better than we are if shit gets really outta hand. Unless we do something about them before it gets to that point, anyway.

      Edit: added a detail

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      His bunker on a Hawaiian Island. Dude really wants to be far away from everything when shit pops off.

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        What I’m hearing is that after we overthrow the government and Destroy capitalism we have to dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial

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          dig him out of a bunker in Hawaii and put him on trial

          Just weld the door closed. Problem solved.

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          Or, hold a trial, and if convicted, we seal him in his bunker and bury it and cut it off from all outside contact. And depending on the severity of his conviction, plugging up every “air hole” could go along as capital punishment. Give him a very twilight zone ending, he wanted to hide in his bunker, and now he’ll spend the rest of his life in it, however long that may be.

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          It would be most justice most poetic for the coup against Queen Lili’uokalani carried out by American business interests.

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        Yeah because when I think about kicking off world wars, the last locale on my mind is Hawaii

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        Bunker on a tropical island you say? Don’t worry, I know of some people that have some notes on that. Any secrets he has about that thing are practically out by now.

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          This is either a shit post or I’m looking at something glowing radioactive hot and I can’t tell which.

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    Everyone needs to GTFO facebook. We can hardly do it because every other HOA and School PTA is there, but we get stop using messenger and stop having personal discussions over there.

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        Oh they can’t force you. You can always rely on the pta just to send you papers home and backpacks and you don’t really need to talk to your neighbors or have them report problems in a public forum

        There’s enough value for these places that I still go back to Facebook for it, they’re not forcing me. They just make it worth it.

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      Contact those places and ask for an alternative -the less people participate the quieter the discussions the more likely they are to at least try to switch over if they start feeling some pressure.

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        I agree that it needs to happen but contacting these places and asking them for an alternative is a lot like contacting a deep sea tube worm and asking it to learn brain surgery.

        They’re probably capable of moving from one social platform to another, But it’s a lot of work and they’re destroying their network every time so they’re highly resistant.

        If Apple wasn’t such a pain in the ass about notification services We could probably crowdsource NTFY and let everyone use it for schools non-profits and such

        The best we could expect us for them to move to Blue sky. Health in my case half of them just recently moved off Twitter.

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        WhatsApp is a serious problem. There are quite a number of countries that are running a lot of their business through it.

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      I was fortunate that my partner never used Facebook, so I got to hold “communication with their sibling/child” over their heads and get the family chat onto signal. That was my last thing I had to do before I could delete my account

      The most fun was sending a message to each of the Facebook friends: hi (name) I’m deleting my Facebook account, if you want to contact me online I can be reached on signal at (signal ID)

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        My wife and I were on Facebook Messenger a lot. Then she started pointing out every time we would talk about any topic she would get ads for it. I talked her into using signal.

        We added the teenager into it, now the only serious problem I have is the little one could stand to be on the family chat in signal but he doesn’t have a phone number.

        I tried making an account for him with my Google voice number, for some reason it refused on his Wi-Fi only tablet. So I made him an account using my real phone number, then remade my account using my Google voice number on my phone which worked, But now his signal account flips back and forth between his name and my name and it’s just very confused. It’s good enough but I wish there was some way you could do signal without having to do a phone number. Especially a sub account for kids you know…

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          I thought I heard recently about signal allowing a different ID system, but I think that’s about not having to share your phone number, as against them IDing you with a phone number which I expect they will keep doing

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            signal allowing a different ID system

            It used to surface your number to all your contacts, now they only see your handle.

            Still have to use a phone number to sign up.

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    Shut down and delete your data on your US tech accounts. Their business’s are worthless without our accounts.

    It’s a process, start today! With the easy ones and work towards the hard ones.

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    Corporations can’t even run corporations well. That’s one of the lessons we should’ve took from 2008.

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    Delete your facebook products.

    If you know someone who works at facebook, try to convince them to leave.

    If you see someone who’s in a leadership position at Facebook bleeding out, perhaps after a car accident because their brakes were sabotaged, let them die.

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      i wish. if i delete whatsapp ill be completely isolated, even from some businesses. sadly they cornered the entire market in my country including sms.

      it would unironically take a big outage for everyone to move though. heres hoping an industrious hacker is willing to paint that kind of target on their own back.

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        i’ve been trying to get people to switch platforms for years. it’s not easy. if only people cared more about things than they want convenience…

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    I had never heard about the “Network State” concept before, but now I hate it, because Zuckerberg sure as hell loves it

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    To be fair, American democracy was replaced with corporate Government a long long time ago.

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    The Network State is just feudalism updated to accommodate a new set of vile and toxic elitist shitheads.