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Republican women: dehumanizing themselves to pwn the libs since Reagan.
Ok, i would like Americans to guess what approximate percentage of the venezuelan population WANTED to vote against Maduro on last ellections.
Project 2025 will create the Christian Taliban. I highly doubt the dumb fuck female MAGA voters will realize what they voted for.
Some of them are stupid enough to want it.
Some of them want to be subservient. I’ve heard some even lament voting before. The Christian brainwashing is pervasive to all parts of life.
Under his eye
My prediction for a future military incel recruitment poster:
Join the America Russia North Korea (ARNK) alliance in our war against the WOKE DEI Euro Chinese Soros COMMUNIST SCOURGE and you will be guaranteed a VIRGIN wife! ENLIST TODAY!
Shorten it to just ARK and it will be even more on the nose with a biblical reference!
Heinlein couldn’t have written it better.
I can’t help but think of how this cartoon from the beginning of November got it completely backward
Eh not really getting the idea across:
looking for this?
Ah yes, that sends the right mix of feelings.
Damn, it gets worse every week
What if wanting to believe that there is some nice place that good people go when they die, leads people to support the mass murder and immiseration of countless women, children, queer people and BIPOC?
Religion is, and probably always has been a means of control. That’s not to say that it is that at every level, or that it’s only that. Religion is designed to bring you comfort and assistance in your times of need, while charging you a fee for the service. The business has to run, the staff and bills have to be paid, the top officers need to be fabulously wealthy. Not all religions are against Women, Children, BIPOC, and LGBTQ, but if you’re trying to exert control, they make easy scapegoats. White men make all the money, Let us hold down all these minorities so you can smother them to make yourself feel better, now pay us.
One of my friends attends and assists with a great little church. It’s a small, modest community church. The pastor is gay, and drag queens come to read stories occasionally. The place is just kept up with. They’re not squeezing 30% out of the community. I’m not one for church, but I approve of what they’re doing wholly.
Religion takes the best parts of human nature, and convinces people that these things come from some big other, who is always watching and judging us. It turns us inside out, and the world upside down. I don’t get mad at god or judge people for being religious but anything that convinces good people that they are fundamentally evil is itself the opposite of goodness.
It is absolutely a method of control, its no coincidence that the emergence of basically all the major religions coincides with the rise of class domination.
“With or without religion, good people would do good and bad people would do evil. But to make good people do evil takes religion.”
I also try not to judge people simply for being religious, but it’s pretty damn hard when it’s the direct cause of their affirmative stance on things like anti-vax, anti-abortion, anti-contraception, anti-science etc.
Of course there are people with those stances who aren’t religious at all too, but they do seem to be in the minority.
I know a couple people who swear that religion turned their life around. I swear they’re the nicest most pleasant people I know. They claim that when they were teenagers they were consistently stealing things and breaking into places and it wasn’t until they found God that they stopped.
The one guy was a little more analytical than the other guy. He looked me dead in the eye and said I don’t know that God is up there watching, But I do know that in the time when I needed somebody to be watching, I felt he was and I made better decisions.
Now, I think that this is an outlier case but I’m apprehensive to just completely discount religion even though I know in all cases it’s control. A lot of churches do have reasonable positive outreach for the money. Of course for each one of those you’ve got another church out there really everybody for 30% in no matter what their situation is.
I really understand that it is a nuanced issue, people are extremely intricate and surprising creatures. People have a way of taking the worst circumstances and making them wonderful. If a little God makes your life better, fucking go for it. My granddad, one of the sweetest most caring men I ever met, his final words were, “God in heaven…” And then He passed. At which point it doesn’t matter if heaven is a “real” place, it is real because it is real to people who believe in it. On the other hand, many atheists are insufferable and just as ignorant and entrenched in their negative belief as the worst religious people can be. I’ve studied religions and was deeply Catholic until I was about 30, so like 15 years ago. I love to discuss theology. Personally I read the Tao te Ching and it helps me connect with my spirit, and I want others to have that, whether it comes from religion or music or just other people.
But the parts that are a mechanism of control are just too ingrained into it. I believe in freedom and human self-creation. If religion helps you accomplish that, go for it: praise Jesus, God is Great. But if it doesn’t, then to the extent that it actively prohibits this then it is to that extent that I oppose it. Sometimes its a little, sometimes its a lot.
Religion also conditions you to out source your moral judgements. This allows someone to use their authority to convince people of immoral things.
Totally agree, but why is your username the noise made by my old 28.8k modem?
Imagine how little self-respect you’d have to have to be a woman and vote Republican.
Well surely it was never going to affect them. They are one of the good ones, it’s the others that need to be controlled. Why would they ever come for me if I am living a proper God fearing life?
Making sure that women have very little self-respect is one of the primary functions of American Evangelicalism.
This isn’t a leaopards eating faces thing for republican women. These women derive social, economic, and political benefits through their association with the men who hold power in our patriarchal system. By aligning with backwards gender roles or evil ideologies, they feel protected and valued within the system even as it restricts their autonomy. They know what they’re doing.
I read years ago that white republican women will put up with being treated as lesser in their circles in order to treat others as lesser. So they’re fine with being spoken down to and shuffled aside so they can feel free to yell at minorities.
They do, but there is an assumption that the relationship between women like that and the wealthy ruling class men they attach themselves to is reciprocal. It, of course, is not.
Take the woman who has a child by Elon Musk. Her and Musk had a romantic getaway and brief liason. She clearly wasn’t upset at being pregnant by him. There was an assumption that she’d be cared for. Even if not directly, indirectly. She definitely did not anticipate that she would actually be confined to an apartment 24 hours a day, entirely neglected without any contact from the father of her child. Nor that she’d be left with a child to raise on her own, and no support either financial or emotional or in terms of literal labor.
Call her ignorant and bigoted, both are valid criticisms. But she absolutely was not anticipating this outcome. There is a presumption from conservative/fascist women that they occupy a position of hierarchy over non-fascist/non-conservative women. That by virtue of supporting fascism and patriarchy that fascist men will afford them personhood. They don’t believe in any of the assertions of feminism. They instead believe that women who suffer at the hands of men simply deserve it. That all women are judged in some kind of meritocracy, where belief in fascism and support of fascists itself is a determining factor of merit.
They are infuriatingly wrong. But do not be so quick to mischaracterize all conservative/fascist women as knowingly participating in the elimination of their own rights. They are systematically indoctrinated. Inexcusably, I will add. There is no justification for supporting fascists, no justification for supporting violence against women. To combat the ideology they espouse it is crucial to understand not just what they say but what they think.
There is a presumption from conservative/fascist women that they occupy a position of hierarchy over non-fascist/non-conservative women. That by virtue of supporting fascism and patriarchy that fascist men will afford them personhood. They don’t believe in any of the assertions of feminism. They instead believe that women who suffer at the hands of men simply deserve it. That all women are judged in some kind of meritocracy, where belief in fascism and support of fascists itself is a determining factor of merit.
This may be true for some women, maybe in the “tradwife” and white supremacist circles. But if, as you say, it’s critical to understand what these women think, you have to understand that they are not a monolith. There are other motivations to consider.
I was raised in a fundamentalist, evangelical church. Within that community, there was no presumption of a hierarchical position over other women. There was only our god-given position to be subservient to our fathers, and later, our husbands. We could either obey the divine plan to someday reach heaven or disobey it and be resigned to hell. There was no in-between.
Now, a reasonable person would see this as patently ridiculous. But the problem is that reason has no place in this worldview. You doggedly follow a literal interpretation of the King James Bible, or you go to hell.
Many years ago, when I was 16, I had asked for a particular privilege. And my mother agreed to grant it if I would listen to some audio tapes that she had of a series of sermons from a woman. Now, that was unusual in itself, because women are not allowed to teach men within fundamentalist churches (Because The Bible Says So™). So this was definitely a teaching that was only meant for women. What I heard was horrifying.
The entire point of this sermon series was to teach women how to be good, submissive Christian wives. The lesson of one tape was literally that if your husband commanded you to commit murder, you would have to do it, because God put him in charge of you and your duty to God was simply to follow orders from your husband.
A woman would not be judged for breaking a commandment if she followed the direction of her husband. The husband would be punished for causing someone to break God’s commandments, but the wife would be spared because she was simply doing her duty as a wife to follow what her husband said.
Women’s agency is completely removed in this scenario. Which sounds exactly like what the men described in the article want.
Again, the problem here is that reason has no purchase in this worldview. No amount of evidence or argument is going to change their minds or magically give them a sense of agency.
Can confirm, was also raised as a woman in a fundamentalist church. We didn’t stick just to the KJV, but then the pastor would turn around and preach out of LaHay’s Left Behind series too, soooooo.
When I was 17, I went to a youth christian convention, and during the main speaker, they had the thousands of teens and 20somes in the audience participate in a mass marriage to god. They said that god would provide a good husband for me.
Then I got raped and made the mistake of turning to the bible for comfort. The bible says that women who get raped in the city should be put to death, and women who get raped outside the city need to marry their rapist. Now, the text I read made it sound like it wasn’t really the location, but whether or not she screamed, and I had screamed, so I reasoned that I needed to marry the man instead of killing myself.
I am so sorry that happened to you and that the place where you turned for help just added to your trauma.
Well, good news is that I’ve been out of that fuggin cult for nearly 20 years now, and therapy has done so much more for me than religion ever has.
Damn, I saw the same kind of thing. Most of the non denominational churches are poisoning society for a sliver of power, if only over the women.
The wondrous simultaneity of having free will while being a product of the universe that created you.
When push comes to shove though, what do we do, remove a person’s agency and look at the environment, or allow them their agency and make them responsible for their choices?
I feel like answering this paradox is akin to reconciling quantum mechanics with general relativity.
They just want to sit at home during the day taking queludes and fucking the mailman.
"I didn’t realize there were more than 2 lines to the poem.’
-MAGAts
There are willing to become tradwife after all.
Is there a meme of Margaret Atwood looking horrified yet? Because there should be.
I don’t know who that is, but she needs to make that happen.
Remember the MAGA women wearing the “You Can Grab My Pussy” shirts? Not all Republican women are going to be upset by this.
I had to look that up to see if it was real, and sure enough—but I honestly shouldn’t be surprised. Utterly fucking revolting. On the other hand, the tee website display of a black man wearing it while saluting is pretty hilarious
As a fairly jacked middle aged bald man, I want to get one for the funny, but I won’t give them money.
Wait, where was this? For research purposes for a friend.
You have to be very careful searching for this.
Pride parades are morally disturbing to the fascists, but it’s fine when they parade their own authoritarian fetishes.
Rise of the Cult of Stupid, again.
cf. Salo by Pasolini
No, but a lot are.
I wish it was only republican women losing their rights.
How ironic, that dehumanizing rhetoric is exactly how we got here.
really… yeah, let’s shed a tear for the poor republican women, waving “Mass Deportation Now” signs. They didn’t seem to care about dehumanization so much then. Now they are the ones being dehumanized, hopefully they’ll remember how that feels come mid-terms.
Dehumanizing? I am just saying they should get what they asked for. But here the thing: being a minority isn’t a choice, being gay isn’t a choice. Being a republican is. But if that is dehumanizing then so be it. They can join humanity again whenever they want.
