• Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Hang on, I’ll ask my bank to give me a small loan of $20 million. I’m sure they will not laugh in my face and tell me to go fuck myself.

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      The guy I had told me to pull myself up by the bootstraps and I ended up finding $20 mil in my sock

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      Nah, they’ll laugh at first, but then you’ll get taken upstairs and Jamie will open a bottle of your favorite Tequila, telling you that he thinks you need an even bigger credit line than you applied for.

      Wait, you don’t run a wildly unprofitable company “worth” several billion dollars where you can use your equity as collateral for the credit line? Welp, sounds like a you problem.

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        Not a me problem. I blame my parents for trying to be good humans and teaching values instead of just enslaving people in apartheid-ridden emerald mines.

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          Tbh this particular joke was a reference to the WeWork fiasco and specifically the show WeCrashed, where the founder goes into JPMorgan Chase and asks for a 50 million line of credit after being pre-approved for 20k, then asks the clerk to google him and then gets brought to the bank’s CEO instead.

          Of course, Adam Neumann was also a huge fraud, comparable to Musk in that both have been known to promise the world and deliver shit.

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    You can’t argue with that price. A new one will set you back 80-250 mil. Crazy that people are sleeping on opportunities like this

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        I’m $100k in the hole due to boomer parents telling me to get student loans for college since they blew all their money on stupid investment schemes, so can I give you an IOU or maybe like a hug or a handshake or something?

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        Sounds like a solid plan. Just send your 3k over and I’ll let you know they deliver our boat.

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    For anyone seriously considering this: don’t.

    “The LNG market is set to rapidly grow” is a lie. Economies are shifting away from fossil fuels, and i guess by 2040 no metric ton of fossil fuels will be transported anymore.

    This is a waste of money. They just want to get rid of their end-of-use LNG tankers. So they are looking for idiots to buy them.

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      For anyone seriously considering this: how the fuck did you end up with that kind of money in your early twenties? Either you’re business savvy in which case you won’t consider this or daddy’s rich in which case you should talk to your dad first.

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        Considering the value of the cargo, if you had that type of money to throw around, you could probably make a pretty profit. Fully loaded one of these tankers holds between $100,000,000 to $200,000,000 of LNG.

        Assuming a modest 3% profit margin, though I suspect that you could achieve 5% easily, you’d pay back the ship with 4 full shipments. Since at 3% you’d have 6 million in profit per trip.

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      by 2040 no metric ton of fossil fuels will be transported anymore

      I seriously doubt it. Many countries are decarbonising like the UK has by getting rid of coal fired power stations and switching to renewables plus gas, because gas is a good way to solve the intermittency issues you get with many renewables. 2040 is not very far away, on that timescale the demand for LNG may actually go up.

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      Could LNG tankers be retrofit to move Hydrogen? I could see some potential there.

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      Economies are shifting away from fossil fuels, and i guess by 2040 no metric ton of fossil fuels will be transported anymore.

      We’ve got far too much legacy infrastructure and far too little public investment to ditch the vast number of small, cheap, highly lucrative LNG electricity plants scattered through North America and Western Europe.

      And with energy demand continuously outpacing supply in the near future, even the green power we do build will be absorbed by the electricity ravenous date centers we’re constructing.

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      Me when I spread misinformation online!

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    For some reason the bank won’t let me take out an 8 figure loan to start my international piracy business. I’ll be starting up a gofundme.

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    Yeah I’ll just take a small loan of 20 million dollars from my normal worker parents…

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      I love the idea of a bunch of rando’s purchasing LNG shipping and just thinking… step one, done… step two, profit!

      it’s so fantastically complex it’s hilarious

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        Probably not out of line for a house these days. You can borrow the down payment from your boomer parents if they take out a heloc on their house.

        Payments are going to be a bitch at about $10k per month though with insurance and taxes lumped into escrow.

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          Does a regular ol’ Rolex actually ever appreciate?

          Never thought of buying one and honestly couldn’t afford at the moment, but maybe start a small collection when I’m 40 or 50 so I’d have something to hand down to the kids besides boring-ass money?

          Then again if I really wanted to flex that bad, I could just walk into a Ferrari dealer in shorts and a t-shirt and buy one. If I was rich enough to avoid Rolexes in the first place because apparently a Ferrari is like 4 or 5 watches.

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            There are certainly better investment options. You don’t see Jeff Bezos sinking his fortune into Rolexi

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              Oh definitely. You can’t really go wrong with an index fund tbh. I meant that as more of a theoretical: Suppose that you want to leave your (grand)kids something with sentimental value that also appreciates in monetary value, would a Rolex collection fulfill that purpose?

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    …I mean, I don’t think my bank’s overdraft policy is gonna let me go THAT deep into debt

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    Somebody is trying to sell LNG tankers to rich idiots. We’re not switching to LNG, that was the 1980s through the 2000s. Solar, wind, and batteries are coming online. So LNG ships are actually starting to be replaced by battery ships.

    If LNG was still a good ship to be purchasing, they wouldn’t be selling them off.

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    One of my high school teachers retired and bought a river paddle boat to put a restaurant on it. The idea was to cruise the local bay and provide a nice dining experience. Two years into owning it, the hull started leaking quite substantially. Apparently, the hull had not been maintained properly over the years and was now dangerously thin. The boat ended up being scrap. I guess they weren’t bringing in enough profit with it sailing, they didn’t even try to land lock it.

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    Ima just leave this here, Climate Town’s discussion of Natural Gas (or what we call Methane. Fart gas.)

    He explains how it’s a LNG is really fucking everyone over. Some points:

    • NG infrastructure is leaky and causes lots of non-point-source pollution.
    • Methane was supposed to be a transitional energy source as we moved towards renewables, but instead we’re leaning heavily on methane while China is securing all the science patents and materials for solar.
    • LNG is super inefficient. I think like 20% of it is used up in the liquification process, which is required for transit overseas. This is to sell it to nations abroad.
    • Since we’re really trying to get to renewables, everyone buying LNG is a jerk, and everyone selling it is also a jerk.
    • If even one of these supertankers has a rupture incident, it will fuck the Earth, and I’ll be sore as I watch wildfire ravage California, and by east coast buddies get hammered by hurricanes. Also we’ll be closer to permanent drought and then global famine.
    • Seriously, Methane is bad. NG infrastructure should be moved away from as quickly as possible. LNG is really extra super bad, and can ruin our kids’ futures.