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        Oh come on, you might not agree with them employee but he (probably) murdered a man - not everyone’s willing to give a free pass on the ‘right murder’ and I don’t think they should be threatened with violence over this disagreement

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          The employee sent someone to live life in prison. As far as drag’s concerned, that is murder. The employee allegedly did the same thing Luigi is accused of - murdering a murder. There are only two differences. One of the murders was aided by the state, and the other one was against a serial killer with the blood of thousands on his hands. Drag knows which murder is justice.

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            Intense read of the situation. If he gets Epsteined then maybe you’re right, but we’re not quite talking ‘reporting a subversive to a totalitarian state’ here - ostensibly there’s still rule of law.

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              Yeah, we are talking about reporting a subversive to a totalitarian state. Brian Thompson is a murderer and the state let him do it.

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            $10k from the NYPD plus $50k from the FBI. To an average McDonald’s employee $60,000 is a life changing amount of money. I’m not not angry, I’m just disappointed.

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    Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a Not Guilty verdict even though jurors believe beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant has broken the law. Because the Not Guilty verdict cannot be overturned, and because the jurors cannot be punished for their verdict, the law is said to be nullified in that particular case.

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      Can you believe Darrell Brooks attempted to argue for jury nullification in his defense? That was a wild trial.

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        i was watching the live stream when that happened. i laughed out loud when he said that. i would be more willing than most to nullify if i were on a jury and thought the law were wrong, but i would take great pleasure in sending that particular scumbag to prison for the rest of his life

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    Fuckin’ snitches.

    No wait, hang on, you’re telling me that this guy managed to get out of New York City after committing one of the most high profile killings ever and instead of laying low and waiting for the news to blow over he got caught in a McDonalds during an active manhunt with a fake I.D., the murder weapon, and a manifesto all on his person? Either he wanted to get caught, or I smell a scapegoat here. Can’t have America’s oldest gang losing face in front of their corporate sponsors, now can we?

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    Officer Tyler Frye, who has only been on the job for about six months, and a fellow officer responded to the McDonald’s where the suspect was spotted, the AP reports.

    They asked him to pull his blue medical mask down and “recognized him immediately” Frye said. “We didn’t even think twice about it, we knew that was our guy.”

    Frye said, “It feels good to get a guy like that off the street, especially starting my career this way, it feels great.”

    Yeah… Great job. I’m sure your corporate overloads will appreciate it.

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      They asked him to pull his blue medical mask down and “recognized him immediately” Frye said. “We didn’t even think twice about it, we knew that was our guy.”

      How? That guy could have come up to and knocked on my door, told me he was the guy while showing me the picture of him at Starbucks, and insisted he was the dude, and I still would have serious doubts. How the hell did someone at McDonald’s recognize him, call the police, and the police knew it was the suspect instantly with complete confidence?

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      Oh, ho hooo! Is funny because his corporate overlords will not appreciate it or recognise him at all! Ohhhh…

      Yeah thanks for coming, Fouad.

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    2 days ago the “experts” were telling us how the shooters planning and brains were why he got out of the city so easily. now we’re being told that he just happened to have the gun, silencer, fake id, and manifesto all on his person? not a chance, feel bad for this guy who’s obviously a scapegoat and just the first similar looking dude they found

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    We can’t let the media take the narrative back and let them do a smear campaign on this person who might not even be the shooter. He’s a suspect.

    This ceo shooting broke the proverbial spell where what the population was actually saying wasn’t being guided or swayed by the news.

    We need to keep the steam up on the media pushback. All those savage, snarky comments and memes left on every news article, fb post, tweet… they got overwhelmed by us. That needs to keep happening so they can’t go back to distracting and brainwashing people with fear and politics while they scapegoat this guy and try to make an example of him to the rest of us plebs.

    They already tried to distract us with aliens and Diddy because people won’t stop saying how much they hate insurance companies. Keep voicing your discontent where ever they leave an open comment box. Please do it. Not only is it cathartic, but it upsets the oligarchs and everytime you upset an oligarch someone’s insurance is less likely to deny their claim.

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      This isnt the guy. This is their scapegoat. What I could read he seems to be a foreigner. Also the first part of the article is hilarious. Fucking cop who been on the job no more than 6 months and fellow officer saw this guy and just knew they have the right man no doubt in their minds didn’t think twice. Fucking doesn’t look like the killer even a little bit. Bunch fuck ups. Poor guy.

      Edit: so guy isn’t a foreigner, but he isn’t the killer either.

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        just knew they have the right man no doubt in their minds

        As a crim minor, this is the start to every documentary they show you about coerced confessions that have been discovered as false

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      Reading the coverage from mainstream Media is wild. Only The Guardian was brave enough to provide the other perspective that didn’t paint the CEO in some ultra kind light. But maybe it’s because they’re not based in the US.

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        Just a nothing statement from the pentagon with a click bait title. It was a waste of internet space honestly.

        I’ll save you a Google… the pentagon doesn’t know what ufos are.

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        Bunch of weird stuff going on above NJ right now. Governor made an address after 21 mayors demanded answers. Military has been going nuts East of Ocean City and the South part of NJ.

        Been going on since end of November, def not related to The Adjuster.

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      God I wish dem aliens were real, if they were they’d have more than just “Hey guise, aliens might be real amybe”

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    I’d like to send out a special “Fuck you” to the asshole that called this tip in, whether it turns out to be the real shooter or not. I can’t imagine being such a piece of trash to go do that.

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      It’s a pretty normal thing to do. If you’re just living your life like you’re supposed to, doing your job like your supposed to and listening to the news like you’re supposed to. Than you don’t know any better than to turn in a wanted criminal when you see him, because you trust the state and the police to be good and do the right thing. You can’t blame them for being perfectly conditioned by the multi billion dollar machine of the state, because it’s not an easy thing to escape.

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        Maybe if we created a culture of shaming bootlickers, more people would understand that bootlicking is wrong because it would be easier to be exposed to that information.

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      Sub link says it was an elderly employee. So that could mean either they were in dire straits with their own cost of living looking for $50k, they were working for a social outlet during retirement, or they hold a strong belief in a US that [didn’t actually] existed for white people 25+ years ago… The first is more empathetic of course but i can’t help but feel this is yet another “olds screwing the youngs” situation.

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    Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm on the man, as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon used in the murder.

    Ummm… That’s awfully convenient. He just happened to have brought that exact gun with its suppressor to McDonald’s. I’m skeptical.

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        You mean that very legal and factually-suppprted facet of the American justice system that every juror should be informed about before making a decision in court?

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        They revised mod policy to only hand out bans/deletions if jury nullification was referenced as a cause to vilence, not a reaction o past events. I’m paraphrasing, of course.

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          Yeah, basically

          “Go do [Violence] and we’ll do jury nullification afterwards” is bad, bur

          “[Violence happened], but it was justified in the eyes of the majority of people so jury Nullification should happen”

          Is OK

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            I think that message was a sort of sarcastic way of getting around a “dont talk about jury nullification” rule, in that saying “we cant talk about x”, while making it very clear what x is, prompts people unfamiliar with x to go look it up

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            Because the refusal to convict someone based on laws and circumstances you feel are unjust is wrong and goes against everything the ruling class have fought for.

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              But if also a cornerstone. (For better and worse–it got and still gets used to excuse people who commit hate crimes, for example.)

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                The “good ol’ boy” excuse.

                • “He’s got a promising life ahead of him!”

                • “It’s just how things are done, that ain’t his fault!”

                • “He just didn’t know any better!”

                • “We’ve all done stupid things before, who are we to judge?”

                • “He’s a pillar of the community, think of all the good he’s done!”

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        To clarify, the admins have updated their views in reaction to this week and user feedback:

        Following a discussion in our team we want to clarify that we are no longer requesting moderators to remove content relating to jury nullification in the context of violent crimes when the crime in question already happened. We will still consider suggestions of jury nullification for crimes that have not (yet) happened as advocation for violence, which is violating our terms of service.

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          The policy was cleared up, basically EU/Dutch/Finnish law doesn’t like Jury Nullification in regards to future crimes/calls to violence. But in regards to crimes already committed it’s fine. And being as that’s where .world is hosted, that’s the law they go by.

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            Switched to dbzer0 straight after seeing a mod try and justify the censorship of this topic by saying something along the lines of “only God can judge.”

            Now I get to enjoy aaaall the content world has defederated from.

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      You really think every person in real life goes ahead with supporting this murder just because you heard enough people online repeating this in this echo chamber?

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    Catching the suspect came down to “good old-fashioned police work,” New York Mayor Eric Adams said Monday, citing the McDonald’s employee who called in a tip.

    Lol, you mean someone hitting the “easy” button and telling cops where he is? That’s “police work”? Waiting around for someone to do the work for you?

    Edit: I wouldn’t want to be the person collecting the reward for the arrest of this individual.

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      Good old fashioned police work: either waiting for someone else to do the work, or setting up some poor sad sack to pin the crime on.

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      Didn’t Eric recently announce he was switching parties to the GOP? Sounds like a good Republican Police Force, solve no problems, just wait around for someone to blame.

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        Spineless. Just another political bootlicker.

        This is how the republicans become The Party, no different than the Communist Party being The Party in the USSR. They become what they hated. Loyalty to The Party above all else.

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          Apparently he did it out of a combination of racism against hispanics and Trump winning the erection.

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              At this point I’m convinced they just give it to whoever has the bigger cock, which is why Trump can only win against women but the second another man shows up he can’t quite compare…

              I"m barely kidding.

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    These companies don’t care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?

    We’re animals just like everything else on this planet, except we’ve forgotten the law of the jungle and bend over for our overlords when any other animal would recognize the threat and fight to the death for their survival. “Violence never solved anything” is a statement uttered by cowards and predators.

    (Quote from a book review made by the suspect)

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    He made it all the way to middle-of-nowhere PA, but he was still carrying all the evidence on him? Sounds like they found Spartacus

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    A bunch of rich people were scared. Now we are about to see a bunch of theater to make them all feel safe and good about treating the peasants poorly. Mark my words.