• BougieBirdie
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      My native american father in law prefers to call himself an Indian.

      From his point of view he wouldn’t call himself a “native american” because he belongs to an actual nation and indigenous people aren’t a homogenous group.

      He prefers Indian because it makes white people look bad. Incredibly based

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      I’m falling into the old person category lately but prefer to stay in the know. What is the proper nomenclature in 2024?

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        “Indigenous” seems to be acceptable most people. When you know them personally, use their nation or tribal affiliation. Like if your friend was Korean, and you only referred to them as “Asian,” it might feel like you don’t care about the difference.

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        20 years ago it was “native, aboriginal, or first nation’s” people

        Not sure which is the current flavour

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        Different people prefer different nomenclature, but the generally accepted standard has switched from native American a couple decades ago to American Indian now. IIRC the change happened because calling people natives sometimes seems synonymous with calling them primitive. Most US tribal groups use American Indian now

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    That’s not weird. That’s how functional societies reconcile when they aren’t subjected to endless propaganda and fear mongering.

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    Migration leading to mixed cultures instead of genocide and colonization. Americans: “This is so weird!”

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    I don’t think jewelry wearing is compatible with the Amish conception of propriety and modesty but I’m not going to say it wouldn’t happen.

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      The “rules” the Amish live by are determined by the Elders of that group. They can be quite strict or fairly loose. And can vary by a fair bit from colony to colony even as neighbors. Cell phones can be fine for one group and be forbidden for the next.

      Like some much in life, the rules are open to interpretation.

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        I saw some Amish or similar community teens freaking out in a Sheetz over the touch screens. They were having so much fun.

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        Right I get that, but the underlying value that the prohibitions are designed around is promoting humility and preventing vanity.

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      My grandpa rents some of his fields out to an amish guy who also rents a lot of other fields in the area. The amish in our area are known to be pretty loose with their rules so my grandpa wasn’t surprised when the guy showed up with combine harvester but he was kind of surprised with how new it was. My grandpa asked him how he could drive a combine when they weren’t allowed to drive cars. To which the amish guy responded, “Well, I don’t actually drive the combine; it drives itself. I just sit in it.”

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      Maybe it depends on the branch of Amish. I’ve heard the ones in the Midwest are a little more relaxed than the ones in Pennsylvania.

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        The Amish around where I live (Midwest) run a bunch of great little stores (which is most of the contact I have with them personally, but my partners mom has friends in their community who come to visit now and then.) The stores all take credit cards and have refrigerators for the cheeses/dairy, and many of them do use machinery for farm work. Some even use cell phones.

        I haven’t noticed any jewelry (haven’t paid attention), but they really do seem to pick and choose which portions to adhere strongly to.

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      As a father who raised 4 daughters, you try and stop a young woman from wearing jewelry, perfumes, and even makeup. That’s a fight you WILL lose every time.

      You should see the dating scene. A young Amish boy holding hands with a young Native walking down a hallway, (or vice versa). It ain’t right I tell you.