“Maybe we shouldn’t be worshipping this golden calf…”
This was at CPAC in 2021. I thought it was satire. It was not.
He kinda looks like Vault Boy in this depiction.
I like this picture of him and Vault Boy together.
iirc, made in Mexico
That or China, like most of the shit he sells.
Good ol’ American capitalism. You’re welcome! Pleasure doing business with ya
CPAC in 2021
Ah, so that would be one year before this:
Jacket and tie with swim shorts and flip flops.
Actually, I could see him doing that lol
He would never wear that. Can’t wear risers in flip flops.
That is such a good analogy, how did I never hear of that against “prophet Trump”?
how did you miss this?
I thought it was a golden toilet…
So skibidi
He might just be the antichrist…
I’m gonna leave this here.
He doesn’t fulfill all the requirements. He’s just one of many false prophets, there are many antichrists.
He fulfills the fake requirements anyone else does, because it’s all made up.
It’s like that old saying: how do you Kill a vampire?
Your could use garlic, or wooden stake, or…
But, it doesn’t matter. You can use anything your want, because they’re not real. We made them up. Including the ways to kill them that fit the contemporary times.
Edit: Downvoting me does not make your anti-christ, or your christ, a real thing.
It also doesn’t make it not a real thing. There’s no point in wasting your time arguing it, or mine for that matter. We won’t agree.
You could make the same argument to support anything anyone wanted. The Easter Bunny. Santa Clause. Et. al.
If you assert a thing without evidence, then it can always be dismissed without evidence.
But ultimately, it doesn’t matter what someone makes up or believes in, as long as they don’t use those beliefs to hurt or oppress other people.
You’re just speaking the truth
Imagine if you were at work, let’s say at an engineering company, and you had a guy who really believe that tiny fairies are actually what lift planes.
They are invisible and seem to function exactly like the science of how lift works.
Imagine this coworker and how ridiculous it would be to tolerate such fantasies.
That’s what religious people are doing and expecting is to take seriously. Literally they are talking about super fairy tales all of which has no data, nothing backing it but their unreliable personal experience and just “knowing”.
This is more on the right track for how to de-cult people like Trump. Need more anti-Trump conspiracy theories and weirdo prophecies to get through to the crazies.
Every country has their 10% crazies. You don’t need their votes to govern. Please focus on the 90% with good policy instead of normalizing idiot conspiracy theories.
I’ve heard it’s 30% so it should be the same. Except in the US only 50-60 percent of people vote so suddenly it is an issue.
I’d also bet that it’s more than 30% in the US
I see it as in the 40s but not close to 50. Then again, how many of them take those poll tests?
The crazies are the ones who show up to launch a coup attempt at the Capitol.
What if those 90% split into 45% and 45%? Then you need those 10% crazies to govern.
I’m an atheist but if anybody got the bill for anti-christ it’s this guy.
He is literally the Seven Deadly Sins mooshed into a fat suit.
Having been raised in a Catholic country and a fairly conservative parish, I truly don’t understand the Christian votes for Trump
America has two christianities. And not in the normal “Protestants and Catholics are on the verge of another 30 years war at each other” way. But regardless of denomination we have groups of Christian’s who see Christianity not as a set of beliefs and duties but as an in group and tool to persecute those they don’t like. Trump is the guy who tells them that the reason things are bad is those dirty non Christians (which many American Protestants include Catholics in for some gods forsaken reason). He offers them power in exchange for looking the other way from his sins
The scary thing is that he didn’t invent that concept. It has been raging since before the Satanic Panic. He just gave those people a platform.
Yup. This goes back to the Southern strategy which was brought to the fore by the Nixon campaign (although it was in play since before then). From that era we also get this chilling warning from Barry Goldwater:
Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.
Yeah I don’t want to say it’s an inevitable result of the bizarre fusion of Calvinism and Baptists that permeates American Protestant culture, but it certainly feels like that fusion has a strong lean in this direction.
There have been a lot of good books in the last few years about how Christian came to be so culturally interchangable with Republican. One I read and got a lot out of was “Jesus & John Wayne”, and the author does a good job tracking the rightward shift from a lot of different organizations and how they were able to permeate through multiple denominations. Just sharing in case anyone wants to go look at some of these connections themselves.
As long time atheist and anti-theist, they love Trump because he’s fulfilling a role of messiah (lowercase), an anointed one. You probably already know this, but it basically means that Trump is a king to them, that’s what the anointed part is about. They’re traditionalists (monarchists).
If you want to get how monarchism works in this context, try Wilhoit’s Law: https://slate.com/business/2022/06/wilhoits-law-conservatives-frank-wilhoit.html
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.
For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.
As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.
So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.
Then the appearance arises that the task is to map “liberalism”, or “progressivism”, or “socialism”, or whateverthefuckkindofstupidnoise-ism, onto the core proposition of anti-conservatism.
No, it a’n’t. The task is to throw all those things on the exact same burn pile as the collected works of all the apologists for conservatism, and start fresh. The core proposition of anti-conservatism requires no supplementation and no exegesis. It is as sufficient as it is necessary. What you see is what you get:
The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.
https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288
And the Catholics in the US are likely to get in on the action, as evidenced by the Supreme Court and the people who made that happen. There’s also a bunch of drama going on between them and the Pope.
Biblically, there isn’t an antichrist. It’s not a proper noun, there’s not just one. Most Americans’ understanding of eschatology comes straight from Left Behind (and further back, Scofield), which has little connection to the actual text. (The number of Christians who refer to RevelationS, when the tittle of the text has no “s”….)
And I’d say Trump is definitely “anti-Christ.”
1 John 2:18 uses it both as a proper noun and as a generic noun, and nowadays “Antichrist” is more a colloquial name for the first beast of Revelation 13 even if that’s not directly what the text clearly calls him.
Regardless, I agree Trump is very anti-Christ. Hard to read 1 John 4 and not see almost the opposite of him.
As someone who was traumatized by reading the entire Left Behind series at roughly 8, it’s very upsetting to see how happy the evangelical Christian’s that have spent the last attacking LGBT people based on faith have fallen behind a serial philanderer who has very likely raped children. They threat him like a golden calf.
Then again, I don’t know how one could read things like “when I was hungry you fed me” and vote against free school lunches or cutting EBT. I don’t believe in the divinity of Christ or any supernatural powers, but I don’t see how they don’t understand that they are acting like the “chaff.”
You know it’s serious when even the cults change prophets.
There was an article a while a go where someone looked into how the bible describes the anti-christ and while they initially did it just for fun, it became a bit more eerie, when Trump started hitting checkbox after checkbox after checkbox, leaving out pretty much none of them…
It’s almost as if vague ramblings of a first century commoner (who was likely tripping balls) could be applied to any and every megalomaniacal tyrant we’ve ever had.
It was originally written about Nero.
IIRC the funny thing was actually that no, this wasn’t just generic enough to cover every megalomaniacal tyrant but was in some places actually oddly specific.
Something about the “7 hills with the antichrist’s name” oddly aligned with the 7 current buildings around the world with his name in big bold letters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect
Servant: What’s your zodiac?
Future Tyrant: giant meteor.
Yes, that looks like it!
I can’t think of a time in my Internet life when “Well, duh” was so often the most appropriate response to so many posts.
if? lol
Everyone running for president today is some combination of Hitler, Jesus, Lincoln, or Pol Pot.
That’s the most idiotic thing I’ve heard in a very long time. You should be proud of how profoundly stupid your comment is.
That is quite an accomplishment!
Approx 0% of each? Could be technically correct!
Is there a missing /s here? I think we’re all missing something because this seems unlike you.
He’s a convicted felon, rapist, and con man.
“is that your bible?”
“IT’S A BIBLE”
Ok well better late than never, I guess, that Christians start pointing out how un-christian Trump is. But I doubt they’ll connect the rest of the dots and reject the cruelty of conservatism altogether
My evangelical family members seem to be as enthusiastic about Trump as ever. What has changed over the past weeks is that they are no longer sure he’s going to win.
I have family that believe trump is necessary for Christianity to win and that I and my step-siblings are only safe because they are intervening for us. This is in central Ohio from evangelicals.
Now ask them if Christianity winning means purposefully bringing upon the end times.
The thought previously crossed my mind, but I don’t think that’s what they’re going for and don’t want to put any more strain on that relationship (people are more likely to be un-radicalized when family don’t just pretend they no longer exist and I’d rather not create more conflict without a clear purpose and push them further into extremism).
This is such a nuanced and intelligent comment, i almost forgot i was on the internet. Kudos
