• djsoren19@yiffit.net
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    3 months ago

    To play devil’s advocate in defense of the Vance pick, I don’t think Trump needs any assistance in courting boomers. He’s managed to appeal to the generation’s racist tendencies and “I got mine” attitudes to great success. Vance is to try and attract the young dudebro vote with a discount Andrew Tate. So far he seems like the incel messiah, so maybe it’s even working, but obv in all normal circles being such a giant incel is weird af.

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        I know the term is involuntary celibate, but the “movement” has kinda moved onto any men who believe that a woman is obligated to fuck them. That crowd has picked up on a heavy pro-natal message, and Vance’s disparaging comments about women who don’t have kids plays well there. He might have had sex, but he’s trying to offer those losers a world where they’re on top of the power structure.

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                he’s an incel who got laid. philosophically, psychologically, socially, he still is. he just got his dick wet a few times. as much as they whine about it;the difference isn’t big enough to waste valuable bandwidth defining.

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                  There is a big difference in a virgin and someone who fathered children.

                  And no I’m not defending him. He’s a total piece of shit. Just not involuntarily celibate even if he shares some views with those who are.

                  I mean just as one example of how they’re different: level of sexual frustration.

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                    just because he’s fucked, doesn’t mean he’s gotten any better. doesn’t mean he doesn’t hate women any less. probably resents having to fuck one for his public image.

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          I think it’s more than simply being involuntarily celibate. It’s a whole thought process and belief system that places blame outside of yourself which creates a great animosity towards others.

          I wouldn’t call myself an incel, but I sure wouldn’t be passing up sex if I were able to have it. I just don’t blame or hate women for my problems. It’s entirely my fault that I suck lol