I know how editorial sections work, but you’d think they’d at least check for bald-faced lies. Not out of a sense of decency, but self-interest.
I see you’re not familiar with our media
Didn’t the NYT mean something at one point?
It did but then Meredith Levien took control of the business and added a hard authoritarian edge to the paper which is showing in all the right wing religious nonsense it has been spewing of late.
It’s fitting that the liberal paper of record supported every single war the US has been in, opposed MLK when he was marching, promoted the whole “crack babies pre-disposed to crime” horseshit in the 90s, but evolved to take the correct side that <insert war> was bad, MLK was good (but civil rights is over, these new guys need to shut up), etc 5 years after it mattered.
Yeah
What’s crazy is that everyone else didn’t
I mean, they hired a Hitler sympathizer in the 1930s who praised Goebbels, so one could argue they have always been shitty. I’d say it’s time to start telling people they (NYT) are shit and hope they lose money.
Pretty sure someone did a deep digging of info and every news outlet of consequence is at least headed by a gop donor.
Not equating correlation with causation here…let’s just say “I’m just asking questions!”
Preface: I am hard-left neutralist. I believe in equality and fairness, but there are universal rights like housing, food, water, education, etc. Closest ideological icon I respect would be Howard Zinn. So…
NYT stands for something, but not what everyone thinks it does. Like NPR, it has a masked bias that is, on its face, disingenuous. NYT hauls the DNC and corporate interest lines. (tows the line, not “toes the line”).
The latter, NPR, are ultra Liberal but espoused neutrality. Bullshit. NYT spouts liberal agenda but sows chaos in their supposed ranks.
Neither NPR or NYT are “ultra liberal,” tf you talking about? They pretend to be liberal at times, but they’re about as centrist–and more often than not, center-right–as you can get in the US without disenfranchising too many customers. NPR was a lot more objective back when they didn’t rely so heavily on corporate sponsors/donors, but those days are long gone. That being said, NPR’s actual news reporting is at least among the lesser tainted when it comes to bias compared to corporate news/media outlets. It’s far from perfect, though.
Liberal with a capital L is not the same as left. I’m far to the left of both of them. Liberals, like Pelosi, Biden, Jeffries, Newsom, and their ilk, are Center-Right. Taken in the context of the world, they’re more Right.
NYT backs their agendas. NPR has been their mouthpiece for a long time. Neither are balanced the way we’d like for them to be.
But, trying to explain this on the internet is like screaming into a void, so whatever.
Gotta get them clicks baybee!!!
I don’t know if the tweet is wrong or did NYT change the title but it’s now called “Why I won’t vote”. I don’t know what it contains because I’m not clicking on it to give that dickhead clicks.
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Reminder that voting does work, because you can set your watch to the fascists voting, and they’re getting exactly what they want.
If voting didn’t work they wouldn’t need to tell us not to.
Voting had never worked for me. I’ve always lived in places with large majorities.
This kind of thinking gets conservative justices power.
Let’s take an extreme example.
Does a Democrat vote in Wyoming or West Virginia really make a difference?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy
If no one votes because they don’t think they can win, they’re right. Vote anyway, you never know, you might unseat a local candidate and begin making incremental progress. And to be honest, the local level is always going to be more impactful on your day to day life anyway.
But if you don’t cast the vote, you’re going to be in the minority forever, along with everyone else who agrees with you and does the same.
Counter opinion.
Win, lose, it doesn’t matter.
Voting is a pressure release valve that allows the status quo to exist.
It tricks the population into thinking it has an ounce of control over a country that serves it corporations
Voting is misdirection of the masses. It’s the wrong answer to the wrong question.
While you are directing your anger at the citizen voters on the other team, or the people not voting, the lobbyists are the people with the real greenbacked votes that actually count.
So what’s your solution? Do nothing and let the fascists take over? Start a revolution that will (at best) get put down quickly and nothing changes?
The only way to really show force is to do a general strike, but no one has the community support networks to outlast the capital class to get shit done. So for now, we either vote to keep shit from spiralling or we give in and accept the boot.
Win, lose, it doesn’t matter.
Spoken from a place of privilege, where the consequences of your choice don’t affect those around you. It matters to me who wins and loses, because one person winning means the rest of us lose and may not have a chance again. I have people I love who may not have rights in a year or two depending on how things play out.
But hey, I guess that part doesn’t matter to you.
Don’t feed the troll. knock knock is no different than the subject of this thread.
So what’s your solution? Do nothing and let the fascists take over?
Don’t fall for the misdirection. Sure, vote. But don’t belive it changes anything.
Start a revolution that will (at best) get put down quickly and nothing changes?
Take the occupy wall street approach, not the BLM approach.
The only way to really show force is to do a general strike, but no one has the community support networks to outlast the capital class to get shit done.
Yes yes yes. A one day strike. A one hour strike. A Japanese bus driver refuse fares strike (if applicable).
So for now, we either vote to keep shit from spiralling
My disillusion sees this as both easy to do and damaging because that’s all people do once every 4 years. Dur. I did my part, I voted.
Spoken from a place of privilege, where the consequences of your choice don’t affect those around you.
You don’t need privilege to observe when your vote doesn’t matter.
It matters to me who wins and loses, because one person winning means the rest of us lose and may not have a chance again.
It doesn’t matter who wins or loses because the corporatocracy wins if the wheel lands on red or blue.
I have people I love who may not have rights in a year or two depending on how things play out.
Misdirection again, although this time with serious side effects. The bigger the difference between the parties in social policies, the smaller the difference in economic policies. Corporatocracy wins either way.
Yeah this is bullshit and I question the sincerity of anyone saying this. We know empirically that areas that tend to vote left-wing have a harder experience in voting compared to areas that don’t. If voting didn’t matter there wouldn’t be a targeted effort since 1865 to make it more difficult for some groups over other groups.
People have quite literally risked getting into sent to federal, rape in the shower, prison for decades to prevent black people from voting. You don’t do that if you think voting doesn’t matter.
I’m not denying many people care about voting. I’m saying due to corporatocracy it is irrelevant.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Your vote is important.
Maybe the Republicans keep winning in Wyoming because too many Democrats think like you.
You never know until you vote. So go vote.
The more of them that give up, the more the Republicans take over the smaller, less significant roles and then you end up with Republicans doing the districting, deciding the cases in the lower courts, twisting the law to suit their agenda. There are definitely blue states that went red this way. The population stayed blue, but didn’t vote enough in the little things and the reds took over the decision making and now you have a red state.
Very strong argument. I don’t disagree. I would also add corporate sponsored lobbying into the picture you painted.
Local elections aren’t sexy or entertaining like presidential elections. Voters don’t become engaged. Yet, local elections will have the biggest impact on voters.
Looking at how fucked the right has been in many elections they were expected to come out on top in, I wouldn’t be very surprised if the Republicans lose in some areas both sides are assuming they’ll win in and typically do this time around. Need every vote though.
In swing states you certainly have a point.
In a state that is deeply one colour or the other, you don’t need every vote.
What I’m saying is that the set of swing states might be different this year than it has typically been in the past. There’s some very good reasons for people who usually vote Republican to vote otherwise this election. There’s a vocal subset of the party and the mass media seems to be trying to push a narrative that Trump has a good chance, but they might not have support from the usual voters who are mostly staying quiet because they know as well as everyone else that there’s no benefit from trying to reason with them.
There’s a chance that they might discover during this election just why the quiet parts were previously kept quiet. And saying them on platforms that won’t try to shut them up with lots of simps eating it up doesn’t mean society has accepted that worldview.
Personally, delusion in democracy doesn’t stop me voting, but it does depressing me when the result is announced and hindsight confirms it’s value.
Yes. For one when the loser loses the less they win WV or WY the harder it is to claim it was stolen. Let’s say Biden got 30% in WV (about normal lol) that’s still 3 in ten people. That sends a message and it helps legitimize votes in super blue areas.
Yes. The difference is slight but it is measurable.
Why does he look like a cartoon British man
I was thinking a few strokes of a razor away from looking like a certain fascist.
And I think he knows, and that’s it’s on purpose
Oh, I 100% agree with you on that.
Seriously. That can’t be coincidence. Look at that idiotic hair.
Why does his mustache look like armpit hair?
He dresses like a high school English teacher to me.
Dude’s got the haircut down. All he needs is to trim down that mustache from either sides to complete the “fine people on both sides” look
God damn, I actually was trying to put my finger on why he looked familiar and you just nailed it
Hitler-haircut-having motherfucker
yup. he’s one quick shave away from methfurer, bet his password is something hitler related.
his haircut is really reminding me of someone 🤔
I do Nazi what you mean.
🔍👀
It’s surprisingly common in some circles and yes I mean Nazis and cops.
I support right-wingers not voting. Like they kept threatening when they were insisting (not that they aren’t still insisisting) that the 2020 election was stolen.
Oh no he definitionally votes. He just doesn’t want you to vote.
Where it matters is which sock is putting judges on the Supreme Court. Trump added three in his last stint. Seeing as they tend to sit for 30+ years, this has generational impact.
One of those could have been avoided if Ginsberg would have retired when she was supposed to.
When was she supposed to retire? Republicans didn’t even hold a vote for Merrick Garland under Obama’s presidency, so if your answer was during that term, then there’d be no chance she would have been replaced, and she’d be blamed for retiring too early.
Blaming Ginsburg for Republican fuckery is misguided and can only be justified with the benefit of hindsight, which she didn’t have at the time.
She was supposed to have the foresight to assume that the six months or so when they had a majority (when they passed ACA) was the last time Democrats would have the slightest hope of appointing a new supreme court justice.
What a fool she was! Not knowing the future!
The house does not vote on judges. Only the Senate. Obama had a friendly Senate until Jan 2015. They could even have done it during the lame duck session. But in reality the Senate was widely forecasted to change control so she could have retired in the spring without controversy.
But they didn’t have the supermajority necessary to overcome a filibuster anymore. Even the cloture rule enacted in 2013 excluded supreme court nominations.
And that would have been gone in a hot second if they blocked RBG’s replacement. They removed exactly what they needed to confirm judges.
Any time prior to 2015. The Democrats didn’t lose their Senate majority until the 2014 elections.
2009-2015 was a pretty big window dude.
Trump didn’t do it all on his lonesome. He did it with senatorial approval.
The president is not a king… yet. Treating it like the only position that matters is a big part of the problem.
Maybe not a king, but SCOTUS ruled that the president is above the law.
Which is all the more reason to pay attention to congressional races.
It is gaining traction with leftists that don’t understand how FPTP voting works. Just educate them. Every single right-wing anchor they try to attach to our society can be destroyed with education and information.
This is the classic pincer manoeuvre of the right and mainstream media: the left wing candidate is always both too left and not left enough at the same time.
And they reinforce it with shitty opinion pieces of “all sides”. Anything to minimise left wing gains and keep the ratchet going.
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He may be but can we not equate pedophilia with a certain look? It let’s a lot of bad people get away with it and throws innocent people in harms way.
They do have a certain look. Just go on one of those Megan’s law registers online and look at the pictures for a while. That weird smile
The ones that get caught may fit your internal bias, but that doesn’t mean that all people who look like that are pedophiles or that all pedophiles look a certain way. You’re letting attractive people who molest children get away with it more easily by thinking that.
I am not letting anyone get away with anything. I am not a LEO
Establishing a culture of “pedophiles are always ugly” is letting attractive pedophiles get away with it.
You surely have some peer-approved scientific sources to for your claims? Also, “can we not” automatically makes me think of you as some brain dead meme kid with no identity other than being “good at” social media.
Your “surely have some peer-approved scientific sources” automatically makes me think of you as some brain dead meme kid with no identity other than being “good at” social media.
Right? Like it’s not a matter of scientific inquiry, it’s equivalent to saying “all thieves are black people”. You don’t need a peer reviewed study to refute that lmao
What? You don’t need a peer reviewed study to know that pedophilia has absolutely nothing to do with a person’s physical appearance.
Then you also don’t need that for the opposite. See how that works?
you’re literally the one that brought up peer reviewed studies you soggy napkin
You started with the unfounded claims, so glasshouses and stones.
No I didn’t, the original comment did claiming that pedophiles have a certain look
My Québecois friend had the perfect expression for this freak: “He looks like he smells like sour milk.”
They almost always do. Don’t vote campaigns works on only non-fanatics and they are usually the more sensible compared to fanatics so yea
Karma police, arrest this man; his Hitler haircut is making me feel ill.
Well fuck that guy. I love how he tries to compare voting to sexual abstinence too. He’s so high on his own supply he can’t stop from telling on himself.
I hate that I know the US is having an election because all leftist spaces fill up with “I’m so principled that I’m not voting for the Democrats”.
I am hoping most of them are bots.
I’m going to vote.
I can’t pretend it matters much though. No matter which lever you pull we’re getting a cognitively-impaired sock puppet.
Yeah but one is trying to control women’s bodies and erase LGBT people and the other isn’t, so maybe think of your neighbors when you pull the lever in defense of those who don’t have the privilege of being able to lay low when shit goes south.
Or if you’re among the above vote in your own interests lol
the other isn’t
LOL
I saw how the Democrats responded to the Roe leak. They fundraised.
That is it.
$80,000,000 was the cost of your bodily autonomy, so at this point, I’m not really able to pretend that Biden’s going to stand, drooling over the Resolute Desk, and do anything meaningful to stop the spread of fascism.
Idaho got away with criminalizing abortion, so now, 2/3 of the states will follow within the next year. You can bank on it.
“Yeah may as well go vote Trump then”? Is that the response you want?
Nope.
I’m voting Green. I like my candidates to be able to form coherent sentences.
So you’re throwing away your vote got it. Jfc the Green Party? You need to do some research man.
Totally.
Did you watch the debate, by chance?
Oh ffs please drop the faux polite pretentious bullshit.
Did you watch the Green candidate with Russian puppet strings?
So you’re voting for the end of America and in full support of destroying democracy, all just because you’re an ignorantly proud and stubborn dumb fuck.
Nice.
Then you are voting for whoever wins.
Ah, so you’re a Russian shill then. Voting 3rd party is as effective S not voting. You’re pulling for Trump.
Yeah, that’s what the Trumpists say when I tell them I’m voting Green.
You all are the same.
Because you are voting for whoever wins not the green candidate.
Well it does matter though.
The way I see our choices is, one old man, the blue donkey, has the goal of continuing to support the status quo, for better and worse. He also has that baffling willful ignorance about the increasingly rabid violent behavior of the other guy’s colleagues and voters, and how he definitely needs to fucking do something. But at least he hires people who are less old and more mentally secure than himself, since a president’s cabinet and advisors are vital to the administration’s function, and tend to fill in where they fall short.
But the other old man, the red elephant, he has the very well-published goal of severely lowering the quality of life for all us citizens besides wealthy white men, in some cases removing the right for some demographics to live at all (trans people, for one). The plan also includes smash-and-grabbing the federal government and raiding its wealth; this is all that Project 2025 thing that people need to talk more frequently about. He also hires unqualified criminals for his cabinets, and is a convicted criminal himself; just not in the eyes of his dogmatic culty voters, or in the majority opinion of the unelected for-life supreme court that he had previously rigged in his favor. And he is known to be in the pocket of a sadistic oligarchic foreign government for whom the cold war never actually ended.
Sure, long term this country won’t last, but in the short term, this is the last shot at renewing our fragile democracy subscription while we still can. If we lose it completely with this looming fascism takeover, it will require the spilled blood of tens of millions of lives and more, to ever get it back, and at the minimum it will come with the severe decline of quality of life for all US citizens, besides wealthy white men, and the destruction of decades of history and culture that we currently take for granted. Think a US version of China’s great firewall, book burnings, server wipings, cops raiding your home and smashing up all your hard drives.
And that’s only if this country could even be taken back, considering, you know, the USA has the most guns and nukes of anyone, and I don’t see an average Joe who happened to already own an assault rifle being successful in employing the second amendment on a missile drone swarm. Probably the best case scenario would be Balkanization, and being lucky enough to end up in a good region of the former-US, and just getting bombed over the border back and forth occasionally, and hoping everybody continues playing nice with the nukes. Because the only alternative in an unshattered fascist US at that point would be waiting for a natural decline. But as we’ve seen with the likes of North Korea, that process could end up taking so long that none of us here will live to see it, just the kids of our kids and on.
I’m never voting for the crazy felon cult guy who officially wants me dead, among so many other things. I don’t think that any combination of our laws or legal system should have ever allowed him to return to the polls for this election, or done anything besides end up in a cell or be executed as a high threat terrorist traitor. But it’s just how it ended up. But please don’t act like it doesn’t matter, and nobody should be keeping up with that bullshit propaganda bot lie that the outcomes will be the same either way. Sorry for the long incoherent rant, I barely even remember what your comment was, nor do I particularly want to scroll up to read it again, but nothing makes me more irritable and verbose than people giving into hopeless apathy.
nothing makes me more irritable and verbose than people giving into hopeless apathy
LOL
Man, I wish I lived a life where voter apathy was my biggest problem. I am legitimately happy for you.
It matters which Supreme Court nominees get appointed, it matters who’s potentially breaking ties in the senate, and it matters who gets appointed to direct departmental policy.
The president doesn’t do everything
And either the effecting people behind the one or an all new set of criminals behind the other (because all the last ones went to jail)…thinking you are voting for a single person is such an ignorant take…
