• @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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    Tell your revenue stream to go fuck themselves. It’s a bold move Elon. Let’s see if it pays off.

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      You’re acting like he wants Xitter to succeed. I suspect he wants it dead because he thinks it contributed to his child being trans. And also because some of his financiers don’t want an Arab Spring.

      Edit: Either way he’s a piece of shit.

      • Billiam
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        I used to agree with you, but now I really think he’s just a narcissist who wants the attention. If Twitter wasn’t profitable, the longer he owns it the more money he’s going to lose on top of how much he over paid for it. If he really wanted Twitter gone, he could have bought it and just… shut it off.

        Like every single techbro, he thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and demands the masses worship him for that. He just was lucky enough to have money to buy an entire platform to stroke his ego.

      • @TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world
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        If he didn’t want it to succeed, he wouldn’t have rebranded it the same exact way he tried to rebrand PayPal. He wants this X everything app to be a thing.

        There would be much less compromising ways for him to destroy Twitter if that was what he really wanted. He could have left his puppet CEO to do all the ridiculous shit and sit on his real life Iron Man throne only to eventually say “Welp, we tried. Clearly this site was doomed from the start.” and shut it down. Which people would have believed before he revealed what a clown he is.

    • @dellish@lemmy.world
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      No, no, no, it’s not Elon who’s out of touch. It’s the advertisers who are wrong! Just wait until all of Earth, apparently, hears of how these big mean advertisers killed the wondrous and righteous place named X. There will be outrage!.. so thinks Elon anyway. What a deluded moron.

  • IHeartBadCode
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    Musk responded that the advertising boycott is likely to kill the company. “What this advertising boycott is going to do is it’s going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail,”

    When Sorkin pointed out that advertisers see things differently, Musk replied, “oh yeah? Tell it to Earth.”

    Sorkin continued: “They’re going to say, Elon, that you killed the company because you said these things and they were inappropriate things and they didn’t feel comfortable on the platform. That’s what they’re going to say.”

    “And let’s see how Earth responds to that,” Musk replied.

    I mean… I think that pretty much removes any last doubt anyone might have had that Elon Musk had any grasp on the reality that he himself exists in.

    • @Minarble@aussie.zone
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      Dude you missed quoting the best bit!

      “If somebody is going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money? Go fuck yourself,” Musk said.

      Sorkin replied, “but,” and trailed off. Musk wasn’t done. “Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey, Bob!” Musk said. Musk was apparently addressing Disney CEO Bob Iger, who previously said at the conference that advertising on X “was not necessarily a positive” association and so Disney “decided we would pull our advertising.”

      The Muskrat told Disney CEO to go fuck himself.

      On video.

      With a hard F. No dissembling.

      The Tesla board should remove him as CEO as he is clearly unstable.

      It’s mean to laugh at people self destructing.

      But anyway … fucking lol.

        • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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          137 months ago

          I’m not about to condone suicide.

          But the world can do with less billionaires, especially those as mad as Elmo.

            • Roflmasterbigpimp
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              If someone is so unhinged that he repedatly can’t control his language and emotions, it is a valid reason to suspect that these Person might have serious psychological Problems. So this Person might not be suitable to perform his dutys as CEO of a Company. And he also shouldn’t because the Stress and Pressure that comes with this Postion might add to his Problem.

                • Roflmasterbigpimp
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                  407 months ago

                  I just checked your Account. Created 5 Days ago. Only one Post with Bad ratio, lots of negative Comments. So I guess you are just a Troll and not worth of my Time.

                • Roflmasterbigpimp
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                  Is english your first language? Because “Unhinged” is a pretty common Word even for me, with english as a second Language. Here is a Link to a Dictonary that might help you.

            • @SoleInvictus@lemmy.world
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              He’s a CEO. His job is to guide his company to make money. His actions are actively doing the opposite: he is causing his company to lose money.

              While this happens from time to time, a smart, presumably stable CEO reverses course and engages in damage control when this happens. Instead, Musk is doubling down hard, despite knowing full well this is likely to destroy the platform formerly known as Twitter.

              Look at it this way. You have an investment banker than handles investing a great deal of your money. You just found out said banker just made a series of awful decisions which caused the investments of several of their other clients to crash. They are unrepentant and refuse to take responsibility, instead telling those involved to go fuck themselves.

              Would you want that person to continue to handle your money?

            • @Minarble@aussie.zone
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              A bit of clear eyed professionalism would be a good start.

              What he has achieved in the past is in the past.

              Tesla is a major public traded company.

              Business is business.

              Your charismatic public facing CEO has turned from an asset to a liability?

              Punt him.

              Tesla is facing some headwinds, increasing competition in the EV space, reported troubles with some of its upcoming products, industrial disputes. Nothing that can’t be dealt with … If your CEO is not shitting the bed in public in another company and quite clearly under a lot of stress.

              How can he be providing the attention and care Tesla needs from its CEO and for that matter Space X etc etc

              More importantly how are the public, shareholders, customers viewing this? Do they think there is a loose unit in charge behaving irrationally and will that affect the confidence in the company?

                • @Maalus@lemmy.world
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                  Because they see what he is doing at Twitter? Like, what the hell dude, that question has such an obvious answer, yet you ask it anyway. And I know why you do it - because now you will try to argue that what happens with Twitter and his public image doesn’t matter to Tesla which is a load of bull

                • @Aleric@lemmy.world
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                  137 months ago

                  We’ve got another fan boy here who doesn’t realize Musk actually isn’t directly responsible for any of the innovations of the companies he funded or purchased. He just had money.

    • @m13@lemmy.world
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      He truly must believe he’s one of the good guys. Lmao Earth isn’t going to rise up for a divorced apartheid emerald mine inheritor, you dork.

    • @catboss@feddit.de
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      You can’t hold a firm grasp on reality if it is distorted by your massive narcissism already. He thinks anyone but the bags of shit still on his platform care.

      Twitter never actually mattered and nothing of value will be lost. He can pound sand.

    • @whofearsthenight@lemm.ee
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      I mean, he seemed pretty fucking high out of his gourd, so I suspect that he didn’t really know what reality he was in.

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    “And let’s see how Earth responds to that,” Musk replied.

    I’m getting strong Kanye vibes from Elon these days.

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      Kanye’s straight up bipolar, maybe even schizoaffective. Musk still just looks like a narcissistic asshole, and the grandiosity about “Earth” caring about Twitter is par for the course

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          97 months ago

          As someone who takes prescribed ketamine on the regular, it blows my mind that he can still hold the shit opinions he has. I only ever feel more connected to everyone and more present with the small joys around me.

          • Flying Squid
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            I’m guessing he takes it in vastly more quantities than you and also that it would affect someone who is already an asshole narcissist a different way than it would someone like yourself.

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        Yep. Can’t put my finger on what’s happening there exactly, but there’s some kind of mental health crisis going on and it’s very public.

    • @Katrisia@lemm.ee
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      A recent comment of mine:

      In an old interview, Mr. Narcissus [Elon Musk] said he may have bipolar disorder; he said he experiences “great highs, terrible lows, and unrelenting stress”.

      He has doubts because his highs and lows follow events in his life, whereas episodes from bipolar disorder often appear without triggers. […]

      We’d know if he went for an evaluation/possible diagnosis, but I cannot even imagine him doing it.

      Kanye West is usually manic when he acts this way. I guess this supports Musk’s suspicion.

      • no banana
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        He has doubts because his highs and lows follow events in his life, whereas episodes from bipolar disorder often appear without triggers. […]

        Maybe the events are what follow the highs and lows.

    • Victor
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      407 months ago

      Gotta respect that double spacing. 👍

          • @flathead@lemm.ee
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            If you were taught on a typewriter, you double space for life. It’s impossible to stop once ingrained.

          • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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            OK that doesn’t show here (Firefox on Linux), I actually copied the text into an editor, and searched for double spaces, and none were found.
            Tried another Browser Falkon which uses QtWebEngine, and there are no doublespaces there either.
            So apparently some browsers render Lemmy posts differently.

            • Victor
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              Browsers collapse whitespace unless told not to by the webpage CSS. I’m not using a browser though, I’m using Boost for Lemmy.

          • @Agrivar@lemmy.world
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            I really wish it would come back in style. I hate the single space after a full stop, it feels inadequate.

        • Victor
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          I’m guessing most people on the internet don’t do it?

          Definitely not 😁 But that’s cool, you stand out from the crowd. For us who use an app to browse Lemmy, at least.

      • @KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca
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        By comparison Lemmy has 30,000 active users and steadily dropping.

        It’s actually pretty funny how much of an echo chamber Lemmy can be. All I see is positive comments about how Lemmy is so great and growing, and Twitter is dead! Meanwhile it’s the opposite. Twitter is still very much alive, and Lemmy is becoming a small cul-de-sac echo chamber.

        My Lemmy app lets me tag people, which I use to tag people who are rude to others, nice to me, helpful, racist, etc, just so I can remember who was nice and who wasn’t nice to interact with, and I literally see the same handful of people in every thread, and the front page of “everything” is filled with the same people making every thread.

        Same with Reddit. We all thought Reddit was dead, and, well… it isn’t. Some days I really regret getting IP banned for shilling out Lemmy. Plenty of communities I really miss from Reddit that just simply won’t work on Lemmy, because of how Lemmy is so FOSS centric.

  • CALIGVLA
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    Musk says X advertiser backlash is “going to kill the company.”

    For once I hope you’re not wrong, Musk!

    • Billiam
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      “It’s not me being an antisemitic transphobic bigot that’s killing Twitter; it’s all the companies who don’t want their brands next to my antisemitic transphobic comments!”

        • Musk was responding to a post that said Jewish communities “have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.” The post also referenced “hordes of minorities” flooding Western countries, a popular antisemitic conspiracy theory.

          It’s the kind of post you can find easily on X these days, and likely would have gone unnoticed had Musk, with more than 160 million followers, not re-shared the post with the comment: “You have said the actual truth.”

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    I have never in my life seen an interviewer try to get someone to save face like this. Elon has zero self awareness, and he’s basically behaving like a petulant child. Who the fuck sees this man as a genius?

    He needs to stop hitting the ke–actually, no. He needs to hit more of that shit. At least until the road dead ends.

      • @qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world
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        He never actually wanted it as a company, he only wanted to open it up because he had a misguided belief it was some evil corporation controlling what people can say and he wanted that control instead.

        • Queen HawlSera
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          I don’t even think it was that, from what I understand he claimed that he was buying Twitter out of a desperate bid for attention. And then he was too fucking stupid you understand how Finance law works, and that you can’t just back out of a billion dollar deal last second with no warning or without probable cause.

      • kingthrillgore
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        97 months ago

        His backers include the Saudis. If he doesn’t pay, they’ll whip out ol’ bonesaw on him

      • @Joker@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Why wouldn’t he have to pay? He already had to pay when he bought it. He put in cash and took on debt. The only real benefit to this thing tanking is he can take a massive capital loss and probably never pay income tax again.

        The downside is he would owe a lot of money to people you don’t want to owe and he looks like a bigger moron by the day. Sooner or later, Tesla investors are going to get spooked by his deranged behavior and then he’s in a world of hurt. All his wealth is tied up in Tesla and he uses his position as CEO to pump the stock with all his bullshit lies. It’s like a giant Ponzi scheme. As soon as the value comes back down to Earth and the stock is priced like a normal company he’s in big trouble.

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          probably never pay income tax again

          He doesn’t pay income tax now. He has no taxable income. The guy isn’t drawing a salary, his money comes from capital gains and he’s taxed on that.

          • @Djad2410@lemm.ee
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            Yes, that’s correct but a year or two back he did liquidate some of that money and to pay taxes. I thing he’s the record holder for having to pay the must taxes at once by a single individual.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      I’m glad that I never fell through the hype of him being the real life Tony stark, 10 years ago people were sure this guy was going to get us on Mars and save the world. There are Comics out there of him being not only supportive of trans rights, but inventing the Tesla Model TG in order to give us all cat girls

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          If you turn to me into a cat girl, it would redeem his spot in the history books in my eyes, and I would start liking him for the first time. Because I am proud to say that I never believed the pipe about this guy being the real life Tony stark.

          This guy isn’t even good enough to be the real life Norman Osborne as Iron Patriot.

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          Although I imagine if SpaceX does get to Mars, it’ll be in spite of Elon, not because of him

      • @Djad2410@lemm.ee
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        No, his more of a Steve Jobs, in that he knows how to get the right people in a room and get investors to invest in his companies.

  • @MuuuaadDib@lemm.ee
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    The best part was the dead silence when he was waiting for laughter or something, the silence was murder on his soul. Not unlike when Dave Chapelle brought him out on stage for who knows why and he was booed like …how fucking out of touch are you Dave, and why would you bring that turd out?

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        There is probably some secret rich person drug that they’re all doing that makes them this way. We’ll find out about it in a few decades.

        Like lead in gasoline

        • @oatscoop@midwest.social
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          It’s a lack of negative reinforcement. Normal people face negative reinforcement every single day: if you screw up you lose something. Relationships, jobs, money, etc.

          After a certain amount of wealth the negative reinforcement starts to disappear. You don’t need to give a shit about what “little people” think when you can always find an audience that agrees with you. When people will put up with your shit because you’re the one footing the bill. When expensive mistakes are pennies to you.

          • AutistoMephisto
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            Exactly. Look at what happened with the OceanGate II Scandal. Stockton Rush, founder of the company was killed when he thought he could bend reality to his will. But the laws of physics can’t be bribed or bullied. They can be bent, but not broken. He was told by the manufacturer of the carbon fiber tube that was his submarine that it would not be suitable for use in a high pressure environment. He even fired his own safety guy because he never wanted to be told “no”.

              • AutistoMephisto
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                The only difference between Musk and Rush is that Musk doesn’t board his own rockets if he thinks they’re going to kill him. Rush knew his little toy sub wasn’t safe. Not only that, but he convinced other rich idiots that it was and conned them into getting on board with him.

                • @EldritchFeminity
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                  Apparently Space X and Tesla both have entire protocols and teams specifically set up to minimize Musk’s influence in the companies. I once read a story by somebody who interned at Space X who was told, as an intern, not to do anything Musk ordered him to do and to run it by his boss first. The reason Twitter is burning so badly is because there’s no team there to run Musk damage control, so he’s free to do whatever he wants and suffer the consequences.

          • @arc@lemm.ee
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            If he were some normal dork people would shun him or just tell him to shut the fuck up until the penny dropped and he moderated what he said. But since he is mega rich we get to enjoy his personality in all its terrible glory because there is nobody who can or would dare stand up to him.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      You know looking back on the history of Dave Chappelle and his blatant misogyny, it’s not surprising in hindsight that he turned out to be a piece of shit. He doesn’t seem to be fond of the idea of minorities getting rights unless it is specifically the minority he belongs to. If this guy were a white man, he would be up on stage saying the n-word twice is often and screaming about how the radical left wants to cancel him.

    • @arc@lemm.ee
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      Or when he died on his ass on SNL. Or when he appeared in a Rick & Morty episode and managed to kill it by his mere presence. He thinks he is edgy, funny and cool but he isn’t. Instead he is awkward, unfunny, weird and deeply unpopular for being a dick.

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        If there’s anything left to sell after all the debtors. His genius plan to save money by not paying any bills isn’t a great long-term business strategy. Not to mention that billions in debt settled on the company just by buying them. It’s like buying a Ferrari, digging around in the seats for loose change, and then setting fire to the Ferrari while screaming at Mickey Mouse that you won’t be blackmailed with money.

        It’s so fun to watch.

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          Considering how the company is leaded with debt, I wouldn’t be surprised if a single € would be overpaying currently.

      • ripcord
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        Lower prices to entice them to come back

        Sadly, that will probably work. Just like it did the last couple of times. Or just wait a month.

      • @Dultas@lemmy.world
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        A textbook example of what happens when you tear down things of which you don’t understand why they are there

        Chesterton’s Fence

  • @darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml
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    “What this advertising boycott is going to do is it’s going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail,” Musk said.

    No need, you making twitter toxic to advertisers and the resulting fallout is already very well documented.

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      Even if it wasn’t obvious that he is the problem, he’s underestimating how many people think that toxic shithole has run its course already. Those advertisers might as well be cheered for it.

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        I actually really feel bad for Grimes now. If this is at all indicative of how he acts in personal relationships, he had to have been emotionally abusing and gaslighting her.

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          She chose to stay and have more than one child with him. I don’t feel sorry for her. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice though?

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              And a lot of them can’t be saved unless they’re willing to admit there is a problem and seek help. This is a woman who has a lot of resources at her disposal that a whole lot of domestic abuse victims regardless of gender do not have.

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      The fight we had after you caught me cheating killed our relationship. It’s your fault, and I’m going to tell all your friends.

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        He’s defending himself… I guess, due to some antisemitic remarks he made recently and all his advertisers are bailing on xtwitter. So he said ‘fuck you’ to the advertisers and accused them of blackmail basically. So, ya know, billionaire fascist shit.

        • @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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          107 months ago

          . So, ya know, billionaire fascist shit.

          AKA

          The flailing infantile tantruming of someone who is not used to facing repercussions for their actions.

      • @ManOMorphos@lemmy.world
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        I interpreted that as a veiled threat of reprisal against the companies boycotting it. Maybe that’s a darker way of thinking about it, but I wouldn’t be too surprised.

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          h eliterally said he had a graveyard full of his enemies.

          I dont think you are being too dark in thinking hes threatening people for not obeying his brilliant magnificence.

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            Yea. It’s a very detached and odd statement he said, but I’m still wondering why not many are drawing the line to that. For the record I doubt he can do much damage to these corporations himself.

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        “I’m not wrong, it’s everyone else’s fault for not seeing how great I am.”

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    He seriously thinks the public will blame the former advertisers and be angry at them when the issue was obviously Musk running the company into the ground?

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      Because Trump, as weirdly as he may go about it, has made his way through life on his (inherited fortune from his from his crook of a father and) force of personality.

      He gets people to do what he wants them to do by projecting an image, a brand, through the way he acts and speaks. Look at The Apprentice. He’s playing this role that says (without saying out loud), “Look at me. I’m a straight shooting, no nonsense business leader and my personality and business sense have brought me success, money, fame, luxury, and power. You want that too? You want to be like me? Then do what I say.”

      Not saying it’s authentic or that it should work, but Trump’s entire existence is based on this tactic. He’s constantly projecting an image, and it’s that projection of that image that gets him his way. His force of personality is just as, if not more central to his power as his money (make no mistake, the money is necessary too).

      This, in contrast with Musk, who’s typically cultivated his following based on ideas and drive. He gets people to go along with him because he’s seen as a modern day Edison (and to be fair, the comparison, in some ways, is apt… especially the less flattering ones), a groundbreaker, rules breaker…a visionary.

      Simply put, among the people who follow these guys, people follow Musk for what he says (in terms of his big ideas), people follow Trump for the way he acts (in terms of the image he projects). It takes a strong set of blinders to ignore Musk’s sharing of his worse ideas and Trump’s less than impressive antics, but their respective cults have had plenty of practice in those mental gymnastics.

      Thus you’re left with the mind boggling (to the rest of us) situation where Musk’s followers don’t care how he acts, because they are laser focused on his ideas, while Trump supporters couldn’t care less about the crazy or incoherent stuff he says, so long as he keeps projecting that macho, confident persona.

      So that’s how Musk gets away with being “Trump, but more childish”: he’s not depending on the personality like Trump, so he can act that way without turning his supporters off, because they don’t care about that in the first place.

      Musk’s entire angle is "it’s okay to be a humongous asshole if you achieve your goals.

      Trump’s is, “It’s okay to be a humongous asshole, as long as you can sell it as arrogance bred from success.”

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        This is spot on accurate, Donald Trump is a Salesman who sells the character of trump. He knows that No Nonsense billionaires with a genius intellect who are well first in the art of the deal do not exist, but he will sell you the fantasy.

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          I daresay that Kevin O’Leary on Shark Tank makes a good case for one existing.

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            Funny enough O’Leary will also tell you he has lost money and that its a gambling game of trying to be smart and cautious which is what makes hime unpopular because he is too honest that you can lose.

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              I agree. It’s part of being no nonsense.

    • @spudwart@spudwart.com
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      They were the real geniuses.

      “Elon Musk is big smart the book - $30!”

      “Wowowowowow hands over $30 dollars” x 1,000,000+ sales

      30 million dollars.

      And all it cost was some paper, ink and your integrity as an author.

        • @MartinXYZ@sh.itjust.works
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          Yeah, it’s the same for me, I mean I didn’t even hate Elmo that much when that episode came out, but I remember thinking that it was probably a bit premature and wouldn’t age well… I couldn’t have imagined how right I was.