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    23 days ago

    I think these fascists are trying to make him their “George Floyd”. But unlike what the death of George Floyd represented (a wake-up call and a rallying chant against authoritarisnism, bigotry, institutionalized racism, and police brutality), this is a complete farse and a mockery, completely devoid of any meaning. He died for nothing except to give us some hilarious memes to laugh our asses off for no more than a week

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      My fuckwit uncle’s response to comments about George Floyd was “well turns out he was an asshole.”

      So as long as someone’s an asshole, it’s okay to extra-judicially murder them.

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      They’re claiming it’s their Reichstag fire… They have somehow achieved a negative grasp of history. As in measured on a scale of 1 through 10, these people have a score of -5

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      22 days ago

      Apparently, it’s this guy.

      Family members turned him in, because even his own family doesn’t want to harbour this bigot.

      And here’s a quick synopsis:

      He’s exactly who you’d think. I, for one, am shocked /s. I guess Charlie wasn’t Nazi enough or something (according to Nick Fuentes in past statements, Charlie was a bit too ‘woke’, but we don’t know this lunatic’s motives yet, so I’m just speculating).

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        Not for nothing but we don’t know if he’s conservative or Republican at all. We know his family might be but we don’t know he is.

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          Yeah, I hoped I was clear that some of this is speculation at this point.

          Based on the photos, though….

          I get we need to be extra cautious, but some things are a pretty clear pattern. If we find out he was a leftist dude radicalised by the centrism of Lawrence O’Donnell, I’ll actually be shocked.

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    NFL and nhl are really showing how much they dig fascism. Can’t quite tell with the mlb but the cardinals sure as shit are so fuck them

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      23 days ago

      Always Fuck The Cardinals

      (But I’m positive the owners of my Cubs are fascist too so fuck the Ricketts also)

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        It’s wild to have the same sentiment as a cubs fan. If there wasn’t the north south divide and ricketts being a cunt I’d probably just join up with you all to shit on the cards with how blatant they are about it. But hey, I’ve no qualms with being a White Sox fan. And I’m at stl as it comes so this is so fucking weird for me to be saying. Relish it, haha

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        Pedo boy appointed bettman, gretzky, and tkachuk to some bullshit position to harass trans athletes essentially and I’m sure there’s a lot more shit.

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            I feel you. I fucking love hockey but fuck. I’m getting a stark reminder that a lot of athletes are the same kind of jocks I used to fuck up in high school as a punk

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      It appears that capitalism is as effective as monarchies at producing soulless sycophants. Who would have thought.

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    The last time I checked, and fuck me if I’m wrong, the NFL has several black athletes. What did kirk say about black people?

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      Calling the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a “huge mistake”

      Describing Martin Luther King Jr. as “awful” and “not a good person”

      Stated “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to think, ‘I hope he’s qualified’”

      Claimed successful Black women like Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” who “do not possess the cognitive capacity to be taken seriously”

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      The league only cares about black athletes to the degree that it can profit off their performance.

      Case in point: Colin Kaepernick knelt during the national anthem – which was honestly an extremely mild form of protest – and was immediately black-balled.

      If they do care about black athletes, they clearly care about money a lot more.

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        The players are unionized, and the NFLPA has a lot of strong black voices in leadership if I recall (at least as of the last time I looked into it)… But yeah I doubt they’ll do anything unfortunately.

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      Remind me who the owners… wait, don’t. Let’s just look at a picture of the owners of the nfl.

      Then think about how ‘just’ their presentation goes. Compare the owner and the ‘peripheral’ employees. There’s a better picture that I can’t find that is often used in sociology classes, where the owner of a team is in the presence of the cheerleaders and the players, and it can’t be beat for showing that if you’re a rich man wanting slaves and concubines, owning a team is pretty much the next best thing.

      The sports associations are fucked.

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      21 days ago

      NFL Players Association should stand up to this shit.

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    Got orders at work today to lower our flag to half staff in his honor. No mention of 9-11. This is a public school district :(

  • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    The fucking state of Virginia is calling for a moment of silence over this guy. What the hell is going on?

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        Oh damn I can’t wait to faicism to fall now that the files are coming out.

        Anytime now guys. Definitely not a distraction or a waste of time.

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          Idk, light magas around the edges might be swayed once they hear all of the times their leader acts like a pedophile and surrounds himself with pedophiles.

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            You think they don’t know? It’s not like this is a secret lol. He is a convicted felon.

            But sure, the next felony will be the one I’m sure. Lmoa

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              You think they don’t know?

              Yes. In fact, I’m certain they don’t. You have to understand, Trump voters don’t live in our reality. They live in a fabricated fantasyland created by the slop media they consume. They think Donald Trump is fighting the pedophiles, because that is what they have been told to believe. All of the attacks on him are “fake news” because they’re from mainstream media sources, which they have been told to never trust.

              If concrete evidence that they have been directly lied to is distributed to them by a source they trust, I can’t say for sure what would happen, but it’s probably the best chance for them to be deprogrammed.

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                Yes. In fact, I’m certain they don’t. You have to understand, Trump voters don’t live in our reality.

                So this will bring them into reality? Why would they start living in it now all of the sudden? They will create some alternate theory in their minds and cling to it if they have to.

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                Sound like you don’t live in our reality my dude.

                If you keep underestimating everyone who doesn’t agree with you, it’ll be difficult to think of true, inclusive change.

                They know. And they understand. The just reach different conclusions and actions with the same information and capabilities as you.

                Like you, most people aren’t passive receptacles of what happens around them. But not everyone will react the same way or think the same thing as you.

                That’s doesn’t mean they ‘live in a fabricated fantasy land’. That’s just the pc way to dehumanize people.

                They are different people, and you need to see them as that if you actually care about them. Then you might be able to have honest, constructive conversations. People don’t disagree with facts, they disagree with people.

                And acting like they’re stupid and you’re God’s smartest cookie is an easy way to get people to disagree with you.

                Cheers.

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                  You’re just being condescending and seem to have never interacted with them person to person. I live here. I deal with them daily. I have heard them double down on insane nonsense that I don’t know if you could dream of.

                  90% of what you said are inferences you are making. I understand they are victims of propoganda. It doesn’t seem like you do.

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            My maga family (who I dont speak with since even before maga) all covered up the sexual crimes of the men in the family.

            Maybe some folks it will sway, but honestly I highly doubt it would be a majority.

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      the far-right establishment behind the Trump administration is preparing to use this as the justification for the incoming Reichstagsbrandverordnung.

      They’ve got their van der Lubbe now and they’re working to get their bullshit in before Nov 2026

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      The same thing that the billionaires have been doing. Paying fealty and demonstrating loyalty in the hopes of avoiding attack or maybe even getting rewarded.

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    every time i try to have a moment of silence for charlie kirk i end to giggling because that stupid fuck is in hell

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      Unfortunately, there is no hell. We need to make sure horrible people get their comeuppance here, on earth.

      Since it looks like he died near instantly, with no time to reflect on the damage he’d wrought, he basically escaped justice. On the plus side, he can’t do more damage. On the far larger negative side, he’s a martyr now.

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      If I believed in hell, I would do a little dance.

      I believe that when you’re dead, that’s it, you’re gone. And rightly so since that guy was a massive piece of shit and by all morality, deserved to die. And then the way he got killed? THAT makes me ACTUALLY do a little dance.

      I can’t wait for you know who… I’m gonna go into the street and do a little dance. Maybe even a big dance and have a party that lasts a week

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    Man would I get my ass kicked once I started up my “CHARLIE KIRK’S IN HELL clap clap clapclapclap” chant during the moment of silence.

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      Carry around a couple of bricks. They wanna beat your ass? Hold a brick in each hand and start throwing punches back. You’ll break your hands in the process if you hit them with your hands, but you’ll also shatter any bones of theirs that you touch.

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        This is why if you want to start shit, you ride a motorcycle. Never get in a fight with someone wearing a motorcycle helmet.

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    Boycott the NFL if you like American style football just watch Canadian or Australian football or even rugby they are all close enough and in some cases like Australian football I would say are better

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    To quote Marilyn Manson:

    "If you die when there’s no one watching,

    then your ratings drop and you’re forgotten.

    But if they kill you on their TV,

    You’re a martyr and a Lamb Of God. "

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    US sports (except maybe basketball) are very right-wing. I don’t think they actually care one way or the other, but their audience is mostly boys and men, and boys and men are right wing these days, so the sports cater to that audience.

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      I imagine people won’t like to hear it, but there’s no denying that major sports teams rely on the same “in-group/out-group” dynamic that fascism relies on.

      It may be a more benign form (for the most part), but the whole “my sports team is better than yours!” Is definitely tribalistic in nature. It’s not surprising to me that many die-hard fans may revel in arbitrary social divisions in other facets of their lives.

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        I don’t know if they do it in the US, but it’s well known that Nazis in Europe are recruiting from the soccer fan clubs.

        People turning their entire lives into revolving around artificial factions about a game they have no say in, and willing to get into physical fight over it, yeah, those are exactly who they want.

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        Fascism is about the in-group that gets to make rules that bind the out-group but not themselves. The important bit there is the enforcement of those rules with the state’s monopoly on violence.

        Merely having an in-group and an out-group is harmless on its own. It’s how you have inside jokes. It’s how you have friends who you can trust with secrets. It’s how families work.

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          Having in-jokes with your friends is not tribalistic. I mean, it may be something a small tribe does—that’s not what we’re talking about.

          Performative hatred of “the other ones”, sports teams, clankers, what have you, scratches the same itch fascists love scratching. Obviously, that’s something they can leverage.

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          I am immune to tribalism. I use my long dick to ward off tribalist spirits. What now, big boy.

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      Studies have consistently shown a pretty even split, typically leaning Democratic. This trend aligns with American demographics and reflects the political landscape of the cities where these teams are located, which tend to be predominantly Democratic.

      https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-every-nfl-teams-fans-lean-politically/ https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/action_networks_nfl_fan_base_politics_survey_which_way_is_your_team_voting/s1_17354_40754216 https://archive.learcenter.org/nflpolitics/index.html

      I assume you were being hyperbolic when you said that boys and men are right-wing.

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    I said they weren’t gonna, and they didn’t. We got a big ol flag display outside town, the towns proud of it. It goes to half staff when appropriate. It did not fly half staff yesterday.

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      My town too. Most flags at houses are being flown at full mast.

      Like, flying a flag at all is questionable at best but it’s nice to know that most people clearly don’t care.