Alice in wonderland isn’t a princess tho.
Dating for american presidents be like:
This is why the concept of statistical outlier and standard deviation exists.
Had I seen something like this in any analysis I would either assume some fault in the measurement (either reading or technical) or error in punching the data. Then ignored the result if it couldn’t be reproduced, but leave it in the raw data/graph/figure and explain the exlution.
Heck, even opting for median age over the mean would work in this case!
I’m not usually one to care about how a meme is cropped but… goddamn lol
those random Korean letters at the bottom are absolutely critical to the meme and had to be included
I’m surprised that the Frozen sisters are 21 and 24. I thought they were closer in age, and younger.
Edit: They are actually 18 and 21 in Frozen. The second movie is 3 years later.
Funny enough that frozen is always shown in school, but they never finished it. They always play like about 45 minutes of class time duing holidays where there is no classwork to do. Already finished school by now and I’mma just google the plot lol
I’m surprised that the Frozen sisters are 21 and 24. I thought they were closer in age, and younger.
I can’t help but notice the earlier entries are tagged as younger when there’s no real notable age gap between, say, Jasmine and Elsa. Jane Porter, from Tarzan, could easily be in her late-20s/early-30s. Aurora and Cinderella could be anywhere from a very mature 16 to a slightly immature 24 (if their birthdays weren’t a pivotal part of their plots, anyway). Mulan is punching way above her weight class at age 16. Esmerelda could pass as early 30s, easily, just on her mannerism and professional talent.
The only one that really works at this age bracket is Alice.
I’m not sure Alice would even qualify as a Disney Princess, unless there’s some lineage I’m unaware of. She’s already one of the few without some sort of romantic subplot.
Mulan… Aristocracy with a royal award maybe, but not really royalty either.
Disney Princess is a product line that has very little to do with simply being a princess in a Disney movie. Anna and Elsa are not Disney Princesses because they sell well enough on their own.
They both count in kingdom hearts iirc
A perfect example of why median exists
Easy mistake, her name is Merida. Not sure what she’s a perfect example of though?
Percentile gang, let’s go! 😎
The median, or 50th percentile, here would be 17 or 18, meaning 50% of the princesses are aged 17 or lower, and 50% are aged 18 or higher.
Nah, it’s the perfect example of why the median is a pathetic excuse of a statistical tool that is only used by those that wish to opress minorities
the median person uses 0mg of meth a day, the mean person uses about 1.7mg per day.
medians supress minorities
The median is a statistical fact that can be used by humans in both good and bad ways. Lots of data can be made to look lots of different ways in the hands of different people.
That’s why teaching critical thinking (not just the skills but the importance and value) is paramount. People need to understand what they’re looking at. Because sometimes you want the mean, other times you want the median, and if you can’t even understand when you might want one or the other or both for different reasons then you can be led around by the nose with either.
You fell for the shitpost
I provided a proper explanation for the silent observers ;)
the mean person uses about 1.7mg per day
So we can solve drug abuse by being nice?
😂 how does the fact that that average person doesn’t use meth oppress anyone?
makes meth addicts feel left out
:-D that’s actually funny. Keep it up, ignore the people that don’t understand satire and downvote.
How can everyone miss the shitpost in the shitposting community. Seeing all the downvotes is so funny
That’s because there’s always someone bringing politics into casual conversations and it’s tiresome. Yes the world is fucked, most of us here are well aware. Let us enjoy some escapism every now and then, maybe.
It is a joke in a joke sub. Take a break from the news if random shitposts are triggering you
It’s almost as if the different forms of averages are useful for different applications.
You gain a lot more information about a dataset when you have both the mean and the median, compared to just the mean.
This still is killing me. Why is this so funny? All the others look like good images of the characters!
This is just how people with Scottish blood look when you take photos of them, my source is my family photo album.
And if you take a picture with a flash, they get a sunburn.
Frazzled and caught slightly unprepared?
Either that or somehow merging with the local environment, which is what I do. I can be the focus of the foreground taking up 50 percent of the picture and still be missed. It’s great security cameras just don’t recognize me and when I worked at Amazon during covid it took them a bit to get me on the infracamera because I was apparently the same temp as the air.
Edit:Covid not civic
She looks like a meerkat.
😐
The Alien Xenomorphs can live for millennia, and they’ve been technically eligible as Disney princesses since March 2019.
Even Max Klinger is technically eligible.
Wasnt Snow White in a magical sleep for like a hundred or so years?
I mean, yes, but she’s only physically and mentally 14.
If you put a child in cryostasis until she’s technically 18 you would still be a pedo if you did anything to her.
Oh, no, this is the next big startup fad, isn’t it?
Hello and welcome to Epstein Cryo-land!
Oof, yeah, that’s definitely something that will need to be looked at when cryotech starts being a thing.
Now I wonder, there are most certainly no such protections in place if an underage person goes into coma for long enough that their physical body is aged 18+. Wouldn’t your mind have experienced only very little development through that time, though?
Youre thinking of sleeping beauty, not snow white
That embryo frozen for 24 years or whatever that was successfully implanted and carried to term didn’t emerge from the womb 6’1" with an MBA.
Would you have looked at an embryo frozen for 18 years and said “uh-hhuhuh, she’s totally legal”?
Same logic applies.
I don’t think having sex with frozen embryo goop should be a crime though.
If that embyo goop isn’t your property, it should be.
And if you’ve broken into the fertility clinic, that’s definitely a crime.
what if the fertility clinic went bankrupt and you purchased it and all of its assets?
See my first sentence.
Alice is only a princess in Kingdom Hearts lore.
Merida is technically Pixar. She’s like a step-Princess.
Which reminds me, where’s Leia?
or the Alien?
Or Klinger?
Worth the wait.
Stitch?
no, the Alien. disney owns 20th century fox, so they own the Alien franchise. there’s an Alien Queen, so the one in the first film is a disney princess.
Then Ripley should count too.
Do partial clones of a queen count as princesses?
Let’s not talk about Whedon’s movie…
I…need to see non-genAI image of Alien Queen in princess dress
I DEMAND MY CUTE CUDDLY DEADLY ZENOMOPH STORY! I bet the daughter would kill her mother and then assume the Queen role?
By the time that Brave was made, Pixar was a wholly owned subsidiary of Disney. That’s a distinction without a difference.
By this logic then Sally from the Nightmare Before Christmas should also be a Disney princess since Touchstone Pictures was wholly owned by Disney.
All hail Disney Princess Sally!
I’m ok with this. 😊
Alice is only a princess in Kingdom Hearts lore.
Meanwhile Ariel just chills in her world in KH1. Really wonder why they made that choice.
I guess Maleficent didn’t want to fill one of the princess of heart containers with saltwater.
Saltwater tanks are just so much effort. Maybe if she was a freshwater species
they didn’t want to model a mermaid wheelchair for her to go around on the other land-based worlds
She would die if she’s being kept like the other princess.
Esmeralda being 18 is throwing me for a loop. Idk why. All the other ones I can get past looks because they’re all meant to be young (and many have ages stated) but I literally never once viewed Esmeralda as a teenager in the movie. Early 20s maybe. Maybe they mentioned it and I forgot.
Crazy movie though. Frolo is so fucked.
Okay, but Kidagakash skews the average so sharply that she’s proof of the need for weigthing.
Also, are Alice & Jane actually considered princesses? Jane is Lady Greystone and I could accept her for that, but Alice is just a kid. And if direct adaptations count, why not Wendy? Why not Tiger Lily (who counts if Pocahontas does)? Or Dejah Thoris, the titular “Princess of Mars”?
Needs more Kuzco.
I didn’t realize Mulan was a child soldier until now.
Wow, I better stop jerking it to Jasmine. 🤷
Pocahontas is also younger than labeled. IIRC she was like 17 when she was forced into marrying a tobacco farmer. She died only a few years later.
the chart is referring to Disney characters not “real” people
Idk, I think it’s worse that they not only white washed consent into it, but her age in the first place.
Where did they get the ages from then? It seems to me most Disney movies explicitly don’t mention age in any sort of direct manner
Production materials. A lot of movies have details written down that never make it into the script.
Yeah, that one was the one that surprised me. I would have guessed she was supposed to be late 20s.
Probably legal where she’s from. 🤢
Yeah, Ahgrabah is crazy
By the way, child marriage is legal in a number of US states right now.
Is Alice 10 in Disney? In Lewis Carroll’s original work she is 8.
They aged her up so it would be less creepy
What is creepy about it? The entire story is really about Alice discovering rules and how she likes them so much. That is very much the world of an 8 year old. Not to mention all of the fanciful characters and tropes that were dreamed up.
There are many academic critiques and studies of the work. It is also central to Open AI’s QKV layers model alignment training. The story is the primary catalyst for creative randomness in terms of internal model thinking in both LLMs and embedding models used in image diffusion. For instance, all of the mechanisms that Alice used to become bigger and smaller are present in diffusion AI models with the caveat that no real person place or thing is present in the prompt. One does not need to bring up the detailed context of the story if one prompts the element with good specificity. A far easier method to play with is to prompt the queen of hearts or Alice as a character in an image using just a foundational base model. It should be quite clear how these images are a bit different in many ways. Those differences are not random and they are persistent across all models. Literary nonsense is the actual randomness that shows up in background objects and clothing in images. Prompting against the abstraction of genre is far more effective than attempting to describe your own details in the prompt with specificity.
In literature in general, Carroll’s work is the holotype for a genre. Analysing the work speaks to the human experience on many levels. The work has long been appreciated by all ages. So I am a bit baffled about what you find creepy about age in any context such as this. Like what kind of assumptions do you possibly feel grounded in here?
I think you need to go outside bro
I think you need to pick up a book. Maybe get out of the sun. It can be harmful you know, bro
I don’t understand what you wrote. Please explain like I’ve not take a literature class since high school. (I read, but mostly for fun or computer tech information, which is also for fun.)
its pro AI jibberish, probably written with AI tools
What I got out of it (including the clarification) was “AI ties to Alice in some way also Alice in Wonderland is deeper than you think” and the ties to AI were where I felt it was either nonsense or not written for the audience.
I have actually read Alice in Wonderland and it has themes but its not more deep then pure fantasy story telling for a child. The story was generated by the author on a camping trip with his good friend. His friend had a young daughter and he made up a story for her… and he decied it was good enough for everyone to enjoy.
It also twinged my implausibilty meter when they said there were several easy to find podcasts and blog posts on the depths of AiW, but didn’t link to any…
Edit: the first, long comment made me think it was some autist’s [not derogatory] special interest and that they were too deep to explain it well. The second comment made me think that was not the case.
There is more to the story of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland than just a children’s story. There are several podcasts and blog posts on this that are easy to find. The book is public domain and on Gutenberg.org. There are also several audio book reads of the original text on YT. It is considered the holotype or foremost representative book in the literary nonsense genre, (the book ends with all of wonderland being a dream).
Thank you. I follow a tad better.
I’m gonna need a source for that 'cause, like, they weren’t really concerned about creepiness back in the 50s from what I can tell.
That’s the joke.
