• WuceBrillis@lemm.ee
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    Americans have been fucked from the start, Hitler talked a lot about how he was inspired by Americans way of treating colored people.

    Then they beat Hitler, but took all his scientists. They included rocket builders, but they also included political science and propagandistists.

    The Nazis literally rebuilt in America, and took 71 years to show the people they were there, and 85 years to gain control of the largest military in the world.

    Then they had an interesting civil liberties fight for less than a decade, before the Nazi republicans just started the war on drugs as a way of shutting them down and arrested / killed everyone involved.

    I simply don’t trust Americans to fix this problem themselves. It is my dire belief that the entire world will have to invade America, like we did with Germany.

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      It is my dire belief that the entire world will have to invade America, like we did with Germany.

      More likely, the rest of the world will look the other way while America cannibalizes itself.

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        I hope thats enough, but i am afraid that while America cannibalises itself, the oligarchic Nazis will just gain more control over the ashes.

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          That basically is their gameplan. Project2025 aims to turn the US into a christofascist nation, whereas the techbro “Butterfly…something” plan is attempting to dissolve the government and split the nation into corporate serfdoms.

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        I am hoping America splits into pieces, with Europe supporting the democratic bits. In the long run, that might allow Free America to rid itself of conservative baggage and become a genuinely shining city. Here’s hoping that we get a decent ending to this sordid tale.

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      Americans were quite sympathetic towards the Nazis before the war. A lot of the pseudo-science race teachings and call for eugenics, which is genocide, were supported in the US. The Nazis got inspired by the flag saluting fascist ritual “pledge of allegiance” that still exists today, but long before. Henry Ford and other “models of the American Dream” could spread their Antisemitic hatred globally, while being recognized, revered or at least tolerated by their US American co-citizens.

      The US was on its best way to become a fascist empire in the 20th century already, without any influence from the German Nazis. The German Nazis may have helped slightly, but the responsibility lies with the US Americans. After all the US was founded on a settler colonial white supremacist ethnic cleansing and genocide itself.

      I agree with your conclusion. The US will not stop until it is stopped, like any other fascist country will not stop until it is stopped.

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        Americans were quite sympathetic towards the Nazis before the war.

        There are examples, yes, but that’s a hell of an oversimplification. Such that it could be called bullshit. Which I do.

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      Er… not to douse the flames of my own deliverance or anything but you do remember about the nukes, right?

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        Yeah, everybody has nukes now. We can’t stop any evil people from doing anything, because they got nukes. Can’t stop russias dictator, can’t stop chinas dictator, can’t stop the American dictator.

        How long will it be before insane amounts of money was able to buy up Europe as well?

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      The south.

      The Nuremberg Laws were Jim crow but with the one drop rule crossed out and Hitlers name written at the top.

      Black GIs came back from liberating Europe, to be lynched for being ‘too uppity’.

      If it wasn’t for the south desperately trying to drag us into their filth we wouldn’t have had W, we wouldn’t have Trump, we could have had universal Healthcare and just generally not sold everything out to the oligarchs.

      The rise of the United States was due to the destruction of the south as a political power, allowing the rest of the country to grow, for instance the transcontinental railroad.

      Cancer can go into remission, but it doesn’t always stay there.

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          That’s a garbage take. In very few states do Republicans win by majorities greater than 60/40. So those 40% of southerners actively voting against these policies should be nuked?

          Atlanta should be reduced to ash because surrounding counties voted red? Hell Georgia has flipped back and forth recently and is nearly a 50/50 split. Even florida had 42% of voters vote against Trump. That is millions of people.

          This is truly a really bad take. If we just mandated voting and mailed everyone a ballot this issue would likely solve itself. It would be cheaper than nukes too

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          The problem with that solution is it makes us no better than they are.

          Well, a little better, we’d be saving the world from their filth and evil.

          But personally, let’s replace them with hardworking, decent Mexicans, who seem to make such better Americans because they don’t take it for granted.

          But the south is just destroying us as a nation, again, and our mercy is why, we needed to hand over the entire ruling class of the south over to their slaves and just walked away.

          160 years of evil and suffering because of a moment of mercy, how unfortunate.

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          Absolutely not!

          What kind of message does that send?!

          We should have given all the slavers to their slaves, and then just walked away.

          Let nature quietly take its course.

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      So basically the hydra uprising in shield but with the american government

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      This.

      “COME ON DOWN TO CRAZY DOLAN’S WHERE WE’RE PRACTICALLY GIVING AWAY INFLUENCE! WANNA TAKE OVER EUROPE LMAO HERE’S MY VENMO! WANT US TO GO FROM G’DAY TO G’DLUCK WITH AUSTRALIA? THAT’LL BE ONE TRUMP HOTEL AND A DANCE WITH A GLOWING ORBwow!!!. ACT NOW, THESE DEALS WON’T LAST, BECAUSE PETER THIEL JUST CASH APP’D ME TO DRONE STRIKE THE FCC AND WHO FUCKING KNOWS WHAT’LL HAPPEN AFTER THAT”

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    I know America deserves all the shit we’re getting right now.
    But I feel like like people in other countries are being a bit cavalier about the fact that they’re locked in a room with America and it’s got a loaded gun.
    Trump may be an idiot, but he has the world’s largest army and a nuclear arsenal at his fingertips.

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      I used to think he was a big dumb dumb. Then January 6th happened and I quickly realized he was a dangerous idiot and I haven’t been the same ever since.

      I’ve been watching history repeat itself while I’ve been surrounded people who still act like Trump and his cult-like followers are still a bunch of silly dumb dumbs.

      I’m too exhausted to have any words to say anymore.

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      Republican America is not a loaded gun. It’s a deranged rabid coyote. It seems so obvious: don’t fight the rabid coyote. No one will win. But we’re trapped here with it. Its taking its bites out of everyone close to it, and everyone else. What the fuck else are we supposed to do? Lie down and take it? Stand on the table and try to keep away? No one is coming to save us. This will not go away. They will not surrender.

      The only way out is through; for Americans to start their civil war to disrupt their regime or, if they can manage it, figure some other way to oust their fascist government and their cult. To all the Americans fighting the good fight, keep it up, the world literally needs you.

      The Republicans have already proven the laws mean nothing. They’re already boasting plans to stay for a 3rd term. There’s no waiting this out.

      So, bring it on, you fascist fucks, let’s fucking go.

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      It’s very much the “you’re locked in here with me” moment.

      It’s been a bit concerning seeing all the people just giddy with the prospect of millions of people dying from internal issues, either idiotically not understanding or simply being too naive, that when an animal dies, it doesn’t go quietly. Especially not when it senses the cause of its death is near.

      And I believe enough people will view the rest of the world as the cause, I genuinely think if it came down to losing control permanently or causing the literal end of the world by launching as many nuclear and conventional strikes as possible before death takes them.

      Personally, I don’t relish the downfall of any major country, and despite other countries issues I’d rather see them overthrow their tyrannical governments than grab popcorn and cheer as they crumble to civil wars and starvation. That just seems a bit too close to being “arch villain from a cartoon” for my taste.

      I’d really like to see the Cure For Fascism being used here in my own country, but unfortunately “be the change you want to see in the world” just leaves a dead crazed lone gunman in the street. Organization will be needed.

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    As an American, I’m fine with the US no longer being the most influential anymore, as long as the most influential country that replaces us is a democracy. Preferably much more democratic than we are.

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    Dude. I fucking live here. I wanted to watch the hegemony decay, we’ve been responsible for some absolute nightmares. I did not want to life through shitting ourselves like a sun-setting dementia patient.

    Yet here we are.

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    Shower thought:

    I wonder if Rome had stand-up comedians, and if they had the best humor before the fall.

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    me but it’s the haha sickos meme where i’m looking through a window from another room in the same house

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    Depending on whether it is a slow self dismantling or a rapid explosion the US will either be a lot less, or a lot more influential.

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      This isn’t the deathbed though. We still have by far the most powerful military in the world, a huge foreign policy apparatus, and a large integrated economy. This is like if your asshole boss comes down with a mental illness and just starts going nuts. Sure, it’s bad for him and could be kind of good… but there’s a high chance you’re going down with him.

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    This shit hasn’t been funny for at least a decade.