Can we get a law in place that says if you have to sue the government to stop some obvious bullshit, that you recover your legal fees?
Laws only matter if the government wants them to matter.
Sovereign Immunity is a fucker of a concept.
Thats fine, I’m just as happy being fully “anti-religon” for equality.
Jesus is pretty cool. You show me a christian who follows jesus’ teachings, and I’ll have mad respect. You give me some dipshit doing the most anti-christlike shit imaginable, but with crosses all around, and I’ll make fun of him forever. Just a way of un-tarnishing the brand.
How many EOs does this dickhead have now in these two weeks alone?
How many does a normal president have in a full four year term?
I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false. Packaged as an opinion, of course, but presented as the truth.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made, but I know for a fact that the only thing I accomplished is that she’s unlikely to make that particular statement in front of me again. No minds were changed that day. It’s just sad.
As someone who actually IS persecuted in this country for things I cannot change about myself, I really don’t get why someone would want to live under the delusion that they are being persecuted when they otherwise aren’t. It’s not fun and there’s no benefit to being persecuted.
And by that, they mean something like this? Xtians get all kinds of privileges and everyone else has to convert or be a second class citizen?
They want to be David vs Goliath. Being the ones persecuted means that they can go on the offensive without feeling bad about it. It means whatever they do is justified as being a means of survival. It gives them an excuse.
Exactly, the Bible is written for the underdog. Constantly referencing persecution for the faith, which is non-existent in the USA, so they try to redefine what they see as micro aggressions as full on persecution. They simply want to be angry, righteous anger for Christ.
They view their Belief System (BS) being put on the same plane as other mythologies, new or ancient, as somehow being “persecuted”, since they are so used to having unwarranted privileges.
They’ve seen that unwarranted privilege being chipped away, ever so slowly, as xtianity dies off in number of adherents in the United States (dwindling down to 60-some percent, now) - trending toward what more normal advanced countries of the West are like, and they fucking hate it. They want everyone and every part of the culture to have them up on a pedestal again, even if it means violence, and a lot of it, because “Jesus”.
I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made
I imagine some of those questions included:
- How many christians in the USA were killed in the last 20 years only because they were christian?
- When was the last time a gathering of christians in a public library doing things unrelated to being christian forced to cease and desist?
- Is it common in society for a young adult living with parents to profess their love for christ and be thrown out of their homes and essentially abandoned by the family?
- Is there a history in this country to regularly arrest and prosecute christians for gathering or holding ceremonies like communion?
edit: A couple more additions.
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Has marriage between two christians been illegal for nearly the entirety of the existence of the USA?
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Are there camps that some misguided parents send their children to to be “deprogrammed” from being christian?
It’s because their religion claims that whoever has the worst life on Earth will have the best life in Heaven, so they’re constantly seeking out ways to reaffirm that they have it “so hard”.
They associate the negativity of others towards them with godliness.
In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false.
Collectively, we really need to quit doing that. Failing to call out hateful bullshit because of some weird adherence to ‘civility’ is part of what got us to this point in the first place.
They’re gearing up to roll out project 2025.
It ain’t gonna be bloodless
Nope. Not at all, not even a little.
They’re not “gearing up;” it’s steamrolling us as we speak.
No freedom of religion without freedom FROM religion.
Resist a theocratic state.
“The First Amendment clearly says “Congress shall make no law” and this is an executive order. Seems constitutional to us”
Supreme Court (probably)
Jesus fuck I hate how plausible this is.
“I mean, there is no mention of the character of Jesus or their precious favorite book in the Constitution, and it’s only the very First Amendment and all…and founders like Jefferson were QUITE CLEAR about their skepticism of xtianity’s claims, but if you are True Originalists like we are, you’d understand how this is supposed to be a xtian nation!”
Also SCOTUS
You can order metal statues of Baphomet on Etsy. Mine helps me feel a little better when I read shitty stuff like this. He watches over me from the top of my bookshelf.
DEI but just for Christians
be explicit: white Christians
There’s a group of people that go around in white sheets with pointy hats and they burn crosses, often on other peoples property. That seems pretty anti-christian to me and should be the first to be investigated.
Everything about the GOP as very anti-christian. Jesus was a bleeding heart socialist by today’s standards. I’m not sure what books these fools have been reading that says otherwise.
I am entirely serious when I say this:
The latest meme/talking point working its way through all the newer, e-celeb type american christian pastors, the ones that are extreme but not quite as bonkers as the qanon, I-am-a-prophet types…
The latest sermon topic is ‘the sin of empathy’.
Wowwwwww
they don’t read. their megachurch pastors tell them what the bible says about who to hate. they draw all their rhetoric from Leviticus and Numbers to justify their gross misinterpretation of Revelations. they ignore the gospels entirely. here are the things you need to know when dealing with christofascist propaganda
- the old testament comes from the living documents of the jewish faith maintaining the history of their ancestors and people. the jewish faith is largely an ongoing conversation about what it means to inherit this story and how to resist oppression by enacting boycotts, strikes, and maintaining the cultural heritage of foods. no one thinks everything in it is right and good except for some folks who worship orthodox hegemony beyond all else
- the teachings of jesus are primarily about how orthodox hegemony is bad and that the true value of ethics and morality is to help others and strengthen communities where you are
- the book of revelations is early christians’ attempt to document the events of a genocide enacted by an authoritarian who co-opted the trappings of religion. it’s a warning against the types of coagulation of power being enacted by donald trump literally right now. they are the followers of the antichrist they accuse woke folk of being. woke folk are who get raptured into the eternal song of historical memory by remaining true to the teachings that kindness and grace is more important than orthodoxy. the book is all florid and weird because the roman censors didn’t recognize it for what it was, so it was able to survive.
To be fair, there is a lot of really bad, problematic shit (much of it political in nature) in the Old Testament…
Which is what I’m getting at that only the weirdest dorks really practice everything in there. In the new testament Jesus even says that in following his teachings you make a new covenant with god that dissolves the old covenant established in the old testament. Any christian drawing anything in their actions from the old testament that aren’t based around kindness and caring towards others is a complete jackass who doesn’t even know what Jesus taught.
The “new covenant” shit is just copium. Jesus also said that:
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Matthew 5:17-18
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A17-18&version=NIV
Seems pretty clear to me.
Let’s remember that the Old Testament not only condones slavery, it lays out the “correct” way to beat the shit out of the people you own as property.
Also, no shellfish, no clothing with more than one fabric, can’t cut the hair on your temples… I seem to recall there being some strange rules about it being your duty to fuck your brother’s wife if your brother dies? That’s an interesting one.
Jesus explicitly said that these laws will never change.
Jesus explicitly said that these laws will never change.
Well put. The other thing that’s very weird is how the xtians will say that Jesus both gave them a “new covenant”, and therefore things like dietary laws don’t apply to them. So they can eat shrimp, but No Homo, because of what the OT says.
It seems highly selective, does it not? They’ll claim the OT is what gives the character of Jesus his legitimacy because of prophecy being fulfilled or somesuch, and therefore the OT is the word of god. The character of Jesus says the “not one jot or tittle” stuff, and yet, the xtians will declare “new covenant” and nope out on things that seem awfully convenient like eating shrimp, keeping the (actual) Sabbath, and circumcision.
Even weirder - the way they enshrine things from Paul - a guy who never even met the character of Jesus, and that’s according to their own fanfic! People that consider what Paul says of any import should be in a religion called Paulianity, yes?
None of the new testament writers ever met Jesus.
And by “anti-xtian bias” he means, not properly privileging xtianity.
That’s what these assholes complaining about xtian “persecution” ALWAYS mean. They hate to be ignored, too. Being told that their rules are FOR THEM and not anyone else in their book club, it absolutely infuriates them.
Why do you use “xtian”
X was used by early Christians in place of Christ. It is the first letter of Christ in Greek, and was used as a discreet way to indicate that someone is a Christian - back when Christians were ACTUALLY persecuted.
Why say many words when few words work
the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society
Yeah, Democrats did this already. They’re called Hate Crimes and it’s the law. Not a measley little EO.
You don’t understand yet. The words are a cover for their real intentions which are to go after the enemies of Christianity under the guise of investigating hate crimes.
Yes, nothing they say is what they really mean. Welcome to the last 40 or so years.
“moRE Of tHe SAmE” parrots the fool as the country falls.
No no but hate crimes are DEI bad word and also only happen to brown people, who deserve it!!!1!1!
Good thing I’m not biased against Christians specifically. Fuck all religions equally - fair and balanced.
Doesn’t this still require specific existing laws (as in actual statutes) to charge someone with violating? Or can they just charge and convict on arbitrary things they don’t like, now?
The thing with Trump is, he doesn’t care. He will do whatever he can until he’s told he can’t. So, until this gets challenged and makes its way through the courts, he will do it. So much of our system is built on “norms” that he can get away with doing things that seem like they shouldn’t be allowed. Until democrats start doing the same, they’ll keep losing for failing to do what the people want.
Every time I read something he said it hurts my brain. Everything about his speech patterns is so fucking stupid.
As a reminder: The guy defending Christianity is a rapist and adulterer who set free 1500 criminals, including pedophiles and child rapists.
If Jesus was real, he would bitch slap Trump so hard it would take the paint off his face!
