Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It’s nice and cozy here, we do have some “bad parts of town” but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol
For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz and !biology@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz
You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
There’s much more around as well!
Obligatory, fuck Spez
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Woo \o/ Hopefully this time the server I picked won’t suddenly vanish and take all the communities I’d managed to find and subscribe to from me. 😅 Gonna make sure I make regular exports and maybe have a second account on another server just incase.
For awhile I thought that there were stacks of people on lemmy.world constantly complaining about tankies. But now I’m starting to realise that most of the posts are from this one dude, cm0002. Frankly, it’s a little bit weird.
Definitely a hobby of his
Are there any real communism/anarchism communities?
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I’m really liking it here!
Welcome!
Glad to be here!!
Glad to be here!!
Yeah… we’re kind of fun.
You can tell they’re communists cuz they live rent free in the heads of every .world user.
This would be incorrect.
For them to even have the option of rent being waived, that would have to mean that we are all in some sense- landlords. And it’s commonly known in these parts that landlords are supposed to be greedy capitalistic pig-dogs, so, this being true-
There’s no reality in which anyone or anything is rent free in our heads.
Man you’re getting worse than the hexbear edgelords who just shit on the liberals all day, except at least they’re yelling at people in power and not some extremely marginal leftists who would be shot before they could ever take a seat in politics.
A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don’t like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.
A good rule of politics is if someone or an ideology that you don’t like and they have no power or connection to power just ignore them, especially if there on your side for 90% of actual relevant issues. Not theoretical issues that may pop up after the revolution that may never come.
Sounds good, except I believe them to be actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmy-verse, so it’s important to make a clear stand, if total defederation isn’t happening.
I’d rather not Lemmy end up as another Voat. I’ve already seen tons of stories from the original rexit of “I tried Lemmy, but .ml/hex/grad seemed cringy/hostile so I left”
I think that people who choose corporate media, where /r/the_donald sentiments are actively reinforced by the corporation, over lemmy, because they found hex/grad/ml users “cringe/hostile” are not comparing things on a neutral basis.
you’re entirely right, but…have you met people?
the reputation of the Lemmy-verse
As long as the main devs of Lemmy are Dessalines and other communists, then the reputation of the Lemmy-verse being tied to a bunch of highly communist instances is just an objectively correct fact. Liberals are free to fork their own version of the software and call it something else.
Tankies, they’re tankies, there’s nothing wrong with the theory of communism. What makes a Tankie, is the support of Authoritarian regimes and turning a blind eye to genocides and many other human rights violations when committed by said regimes
And also, there’s nothing Tankie about Lemmy itself. It’s just computer code that is a Reddit-like link aggregator. It falls under separating the art from the artist. And because it’s open source, there’s no concern of financially supporting it either from its use (unless you make an explicit choice to donate)
What makes a Tankie, is the support of Authoritarian regimes and turning a blind eye to genocides and many other human rights violations when committed by said regimes
That’s exactly what liberals of Lemmy do though.
When was the last time you spoke against Zelensky’s regime, that literally turned my country into a concentration camp that people cannot leave and are kidnapped off the streets (and even fucking hospitals!) in front of their crying wives/mothers, to be sent into the meatgrinder and never be seen again?
That’s a rhetorical question, of course you never did (and those who do, including me, are paid Russian shills, tankies or just bots). Because for a liberal, it’s never “authoritarianism bad” or “Nazism bad” or “human rights violations bad” or anything like this - it’s only bad when the other side is doing it. When “the good guys” are doing it, it’s not just totally acceptable, the guy is a hero.
I just think there’s a contradiction in a) continuing to use a platform that is developed primarily by Communists and b) thinking that the platform being associated with Communists “actively harmful to the reputation of the Lemmyverse”. The fact is that the Lemmyverse is associated with Communists - or “tankies” as you insist on calling them - and so if that’s its reputation then the reputation is accurate.
there’s no contradiction, because the developer does not matter. that’s the entire point of FOSS.
it could be written by a literal nazi (not that there’s a big difference between brown and red fascists) and it wouldn’t matter one bit.
that’s the entire beauty of FOSS!
we ALL own the code.
if Dessalines ever stops developing it, anyone can take over.
if Dessalines implements code the community at large doesn’t like, anyone can create a fork and change that specific part and continue from there.
we can see exactly what the code does, and can create new versions at any point.
that was always the reason behind decentralized, open source networks:
nobody can own it.
Weird post.
Most definitely. I’m getting pretty sick and tired of the constant complaining about those Lemmy instances.
Ironically the founder and programmer is a communist
Also, it defaults to “Active” view, which is the least updated. You can set your posts to “Hot” and then switch between “Top 6 Hours” and “Top 12 Hours” to get the most of your experience here. It will seem dead with the default.
Top 6 and ALL is where it’s at.
I usually sort by new comments. Sometimes you’ll see 1 year old post still active in the comments. It’s neat
Game changer
I still wish there was a better sort algorithm. Nothing compares to Reddit’s front page algorithm. I usually cycle between hot and top 12 hours.
I think it is good that we don’t have reddits front page algorithm. I want to stay in charge of curating my feed and prefer there not to be intransparent fuckery in the background.
I want to know that a post with 850 upvotes has indeed been upvoted by 900 accounts and downvoted by 50 accounts, instead of some weird calculations up- or downscaling it.
intransparent
Opaque?
I’m definitely not saying the algorithm should be a hidden secret, or lie about the up/down vote count. It is all open source of course!
Reddit had this sweet spot where it could push some trending posts to the top of the page within 30 minutes, but also let a story sit for a few hours while it was getting lots of engagement. But generally there is a new front page every few hours or so.
The only way I can get this is by alternating between hot and top 12 hours. But even this is nowhere near as good as the Reddit algorithm.
For help migrating: !growthefediverse@slrpnk.net
This name should really be changed to something else
They’ve changed the display name but the ID can’t be altered as, I presume, it counts as the address.
Would be a good opportunity to try out the concept of migration, which is the new name of the community
Fair.
There’s even some instances with old reddit-like styling/formatting, if you’re into that sort of thing.
I’ll pimp my example: https://old.lemmy.fan/
Given the instance we are on: https://old.feddit.uk/
The Connect app is based off RiF. Best Lemmy app by far
i’ve only ever used https://old.lemmy.ca/
That works great on mobile!
Man Reddit really has something with that old UI. The new one runs like trash.
Imagine dedicating this much of your free time attacking people for caring too much.
Especially when the general feeling seems to be this
FYI for anyone who comes across, this here is an example of a “.ml Tankie Alt” who may also just be a “UniversalMonk” alt account.
This “caring too much” they speak of is an inability to accept any valid and factual criticism of the CCP or Russia.
They also defiantly refuse to believe the Xi/Winnie the Pooh meme started in China, despite well documented evidence.
The tankies often call for “unification of the left” but it is deception, they are not left because they will support authoritarian ideals in lockstep.
ETA:
Try to avoid making unfounded allegations about other users - here we raise a wry eyebrow to dramas elsewhere in the Fediverse, not start them.
Not me. Never heard of the guy. I mean, it’s nice that I’m on your mind all the time, but brah, calm down. Not every single person who disagrees with you is me or some “alt account” of mine. lmao
Upvoted. You have enough alts with your actual name
Thank you! I have no reason to come up with random alt names. I’ve always been transparent about who I am when I apply to a new instance. Even an instance I created has my name on it.
I’ve never hid who I am. As someone described me just the other day: “I’m consistent and oddly annoying.” :)
FYI for anyone that comes across, this here is an example of a conservative capitalist supporter who spends hours a day posting about imaginary tankies that fucked his wife or whatever weird shit pops into their head.
Individuals like this use the word tankie in the same way liberals use the word Nazi or conservatives use the word commie or how maga use the word dei or how toddlers use the word icky. It means whatever they want it to mean at the time, in most cases just being anything unpleasant to their delicate sensibilities.
Anyone using the term tankie on a left wing site is deeply unserious and solely exists to sow division and troll.
You literally called Ukrainians Nazis a couple hours ago.
The people with swastikas on their chest are Nazis if anyone is. Joe billy Bob the chicken farmer that has a mutual aid network but voted for Trump because Dems have never paid attention to him is not a Nazi.
It’s disingenuous to pretend there’s not a difference.
It is also disingenuous to label Ukrainians as Nazis, just because a couple of them are. Just like there are in every other country, be it Russia or USA.
Given their history it’s like Germans with Nazi tattoos. Yeah a few might exist, but if the government starts actively recruiting them you might paint with a wider brush.
Never again means never again, and God damn did Ukrainians love the Nazis in WWII.
Saying that the government is “actively recruiting” them is also disingenuous, because it makes it sound like Nazis were specifically desired and chosen, as opposed to some recruits just turned out to be vaguely Nazis. Battalions of vaguely Nazi dudes exist in Russia, yet nobody is trying to denazify Russians.
And if you mean that the initial not so negative reaction of Ukrainians, hopeful that the Germans would free them from Russian oppression makes them Nazis, then, again, you’re being disingenuous. In the end Ukrainians had the most casualties fighting the war against Nazis. Nobody is currently calling Finns Nazis, even though they didn’t oppose them for similar reasons (getting back at Russia for oppression).
“there is no censorship in Beijing…”
Still haven’t found wikipedia or other such sites, eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China
Censorship in China
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) uses extensive censorship. For instance, the Chinese government has censored topics regarding the Cultural Revolution and CCP Chairman Mao Zedong, the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre, human rights in Tibet, persecution of Uyghurs, and Taiwan independence.
The first screenshot is about voting rights, little one.
At least you’re admitting you’re wrong there and you admit China isn’t a evil despotic dictatorship.
How much do you think you’re helping yourself by calling others “little one”? that’s the most passive agressive thing I’ve read all week, and I’m on the internet a lot
Lmfao you think China is an open socialist democracy! God there are some proper nutcases on this site
With how many open nazis are running about now maybe not the best example for that one.
True but most people tend to understand that or the dei example the most. It’s still effective to show the point.
And I’m not the secret big bad guy behind the account that he thinks is an alt of mine. I never heard of the user he’s referring to. lol
cm0002 seems to have an unhealthy fascination with me and sees me wherever he looks.
Individuals like this use the word tankie in the same way liberals use the word Nazi or conservatives use the word commie or how maga use the word dei or how toddlers use the word icky. It means whatever they want it to mean at the time
No. I mean, I disagree, but the weirdest thing is the use of liberal as a pejorative on a “left wing site”.
All my adult life I’ve been disliked by my local chuds, cunts, dickheads, fuckwits, and bastards for being liberal. Now the “lefties” dislike me for it too.
It’s weird; I like all the same stuff, push for the same social change as ever but now “libs” like me are the scum of the earth because . . . *checks notes* . . Ah. Yes because the Likud are genocidal evil bastards. Which. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Yeah I dunno. Somehow that means we should let trump win.
It’s fucked up bullshit. And it used to be mostly from the “Tankie triad”. But even after they got mostly blocked, the more industrious of them come from “regular” instances now.
Liberal means different things depending on context, country, etc.
Over here in France (although not as common a term as in the US) it is commonly associated with economic liberalism, ie part of right-wing ideology (small government, fewer taxes, etc).
In the US, it’s more of a synonym of social liberalism, and is associated with left-wing ideology, progressivism.Liberals were never left wing, equality nor equity can happen under capitalism. The rainbow capitalism liberals advocate for only extends as far as their use to the liberal hierarchy. See: trans and undocumented people getting thrown away by the Harris admin as soon as they no longer saw any bumps in polls for supporting them.
The problem you’re having is you live in a place with such a far right Overton window that the thought of even a tenuous equality amongst the under class is a progressive idea. It’s not. But it’s an easy tool to divide the underclass, and even acceptance of ‘controversial’ humans is used to divide the underclass.
Liberal was a good thing to be in the early 1700s, when it was the only alternative to divine right feudalism; but we’ve evolved since then. We don’t have to settle for capital based feudalism, which is all liberalism amounts to.
Tl;Dr liberal infighting caused you to think liberalism and conservatism is different ideologies, and you’re using the conservative definition of liberal to define yourself and getting mad.
Liberals were never left wing We don’t have to settle for capital based feudalism, which is all liberalism amounts to. Tl;Dr liberal infighting caused you to think liberalism and conservatism is different ideologies, and you’re using the conservative definition of liberal to define yourself and getting mad.
I mean, I can’t disagree more in terms of my lived experience. You’re surely taking a polisci graduate-level view of these terms and that’s probably exactly what the books say, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that the freedom, liberty, and justice we had in real life, any social progress at all in the last fifty years was due to liberal efforts, which included those who supposedly despise liberals now.
Liberal and conservative ideologies ARE different. If you want to be an faux-academic absolutist and pretend helping trump win is some kind of socialist or anti-capitalist win, you’re crazy.
They’re just two different words that happen to be written with the exact same letters in the exact same order.
Let the confusion… dissipate !! 🪄
The reason progressive liberals believe that people to the left of them are actually the right wing is because they imagine they are as far left as you can be, and by left they mean right (correct).
This makes no sense at all to me. Are you talking about horseshoe theory?
No I think it’s the insufferable purity comparisons and the collection of self-righteous dogma like Pokemon cards in lieu of any coherent plan or consistent ideology.
I don’t know why I would block Lemmy.ml when it’s more entertaining to get banned from their communities one by one!
One by one? Dessalines blanket bans you from everything if you break one of their unwritten rules. Relatedly, just write out your rules. Stop trying to be sneaky-deeky. It’s ridiculous, having ultra secret rules like some sort of boy’s club. Be up front about it. It surely doesn’t take long to write “avoid questioning China or Russia” in the sidebar
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Yea, getting site-banned is also fun, I can make posts like these and none of the .ml tankies can see it outside their alts LMAOOO
I’m kinda new to the fediverse. What did lemmy.ml do?
I’d recommend visiting it or joining an instance that federates with it at least. The liberals like to make it out to be a communist propaganda machine but most of the content is memes, oss, and general left wing / anti-US stuff. They will ban you on some communities if you bring up tianemen square or uyghurs though, so that sucks, but otherwise most of the content / users on there are decent.
Yeah, I haven’t had issues with them generally speaking myself, if you’re a leftist you’ll find comrades. But also, it’s important to remember that every instance is essentially its own little fiefdom, so you’ll have to follow whatever arbitrary rules they have.
I caught a ban on .world for mentioning Jury Nullification. That was a fun time, from the people who complain about freeze peach constantly.
Luckily they backed off their stance on those conversations.
I wonder if some of that was admins in NL somewhat inexperienced with commonwealth-style legal systems.
ooohhh… so they thought people suggested murdering jurors ? as in jury nullification? that’s bleak
their admins (the maintainers of the lemmy codebase) are tankies (authoritarian communists who believe the USSR was justified in quashing Hungarian protests against human rights abuses with violence). they take any criticism of the people’s republic of china’s government as sinophobia and have some weird opinions about the fascist government of the russian federation (effectively their explanation is that moscow achieved communist utopia in 1918 and therefor cannot backslde into a worse form of government despite overwhelming evidence that the potato shaped dickhead who sits atop the throne of skulls in moscow is maybe possibly perhaps a war criminal)
Also, you can go-to !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and check out the pinned posts, Nutomic lead dev, Tankie, and .ml head admin is basically a transphobe on top (receipts in the second pinned post)
They’ll also remove posts and ban you under their favorite catch-all “Rule 1 Bigotry” for anything critical of China/Russia
If you talk Ill of them, even on other instances comms they’ll site-ban you. So basically like how Reddit mods of ol used to ban you for participation in unrelated subs.
You have been banned from r/pyongyang.
They helped elect trump
yes of course, trump won because of a few hundred people on a website no one’s heard of and not, yknow, the sheer racism of the average white person (the only demographic that voted in majority for trump, btw)
be serious
Helping doesn’t mean being the #1 reason
I mean it is true. They did help elect Trump. Before the election there were a ton of .ml accounts doing their best to get progressives to be politically apathetic. They were indistinguishable from right wing saboteurs.
You’re blaming people who shoot their mouths off online for a fascist coup orchestrated by russian and US oligarchs?
Ummmm . . . Yyyyyes.
Yeah, they were bigly into making sure trump won.
