Kick your feet up and drop a shitpost off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world, meme in !memes@sopuli.xyz or chill with the cats of !cat@lemmy.world
If you saw my comment about the pitch fork, here you go: ------E (deluxe upgrades are extra)
Welcome aboard!
ETA Context: https://lemmy.world/post/24558150
I left Reddit during APIGate and I tried lemme and it was full of racist nastiness so I closed my account and recently also left all meta apps and drasticallyreduced tiktok, and thought I might come check out how things are going and it’s nice and cozy here now, think I will stay. Been off of x for the better part of 3 years.
Oh damn, I too initially left reddit during the API BS, but I didn’t see any of that.
What instance was that? (Was it one of the Tankie Triad?(Hexbear, Lemmygrad or Lemmy.ml?))
I got sitewide banhammered from Reddit for my absent-minded use of the report button instead of using modmail
Even though I was polite in the message Reddit claimed it was mod harassment
It’s been over a week and they still haven’t responded to my appeal
It won’t let me submit another appeal because it says I’ve already submitted one
I’ve been on reddit for over 10 years, seems like an odd way to end it.
I’ll have to admit though, Lemmy is pretty sweet. I even got Sync back!
Just got here from Reddit. Haven’t officially left it, but the concept of the fediverse intrigued me and wanted to check it out
Welcome! Any questions so far?
Welcome! I hope you have fun here!
For me I dropped Reddit fully when I realized it was going down more than lemmy.world ever did lol
Welcome!
Did something new happen on reddit?
Nothing new in particular. People are sick of power tripping mods. Also people that joined Reddit many years ago are sad to see it’s turned into something else in many ways. I’m brand new here, I am over Reddit as I just got banned for “threatening violence”. I appealed to no avail. I got angry regarding a post about an adult purposely running down a 12 year old. I expressed what I “would feel like doing” to that driver if he knocked one of my sons over on purpose. I didn’t actually threaten a real person, it was based on a hypothetical scenario. But no apparently that’s threatening violence. So yeah, I’m here.
ah. I thought they did some new, fresh BS and caused another exodus.
It’s meta and x that are causing interest in the fediverse again. Pixelfed has gained a lot of users.
I know that, but the title of this post references redditors.
THATS ME!!!
Your account age is 4 months tho?
Enjoy, take a poke around, drop some comments.
Finally took the plunge out of curiosity and a desire to dump reddit at some point.
Come on down to !dull_mens_club@lemmy.world
Welcome here! Here are a few pointers to get you started
Holy cow this is me!
Welcome! Here are a few pointers to get you started
It is the first time I see myself as a hiring manager. It’s not that displeasing though… Welcome everyone!
If anyone’s wondering what you should do first, the first thing you should do is block hexbear, and the next thing you should do is join any instance other than lemmy.ml. lemmy.world is a good choice, but there’s probably one you’ll like better.
If you want to know the most trans-friendly instance, it’s lemmy.blahaj.zone. There are people who will tell you it’s Hexbear. Those people are liars.
I saw a mention of Lemmy on a random thread in r/politics so I’m tentatively having a poke about, since I’ve already tried to quit Reddit once (for Tumblr - it didn’t stick). I remember forums pre centralised internet, is it something like that?
A bit between a forum and reddit. You don’t have to sneak away to subreddit, just comment wherever and whenever. There’s usually some good interaction. Much smaller places than reddit and less monkeying with comments and votes and such.
Think of it more like email addresses. Know how a Gmail account can send email to an iCloud account just fine, and both display the same content? Same basic concept. You can have [account]@domain1.com and [account]@domain2.com, and they’re entirely separate accounts. Even if they have the same username, they’re on different instances.
Federation refers to how the instances share data with each other. One of the largest things to look for is what instances your instance federates with, because that will determine what kinds of users you end up interacting with.
Ahh, okay, so if I wanted to go just looking at a specific subject it might be better to make a second account and join another instance, and keep up two accounts?
The only reason you’d need a secord account to view content is because we don’t allow NSFW material.
Most instances will federate with a pretty wide variety of other instances. There are a few big instances to watch out for, but for the most part the instance choice is primarily about which admin team you prefer. As long as your home instance federates with a server, you’ll be able to see it.
In particular, watch out for Hexbear and the .ml instances. Those will be some of the more extreme and/or brigade-y. There have historically been issues with brigading from some of the more extreme instances. Even calling them extreme is a sort of contentious statement, and I’ll likely get a few “how dare you, fascist, tankie, TERF, etc” types of comments if they stumble across it.
Aside from brigading, the most common reasons for defederation are related to legality (like maybe a certain instance allows porn that would be blocked in your home instance,) or unmoderated trolling. Trolling from new instances used to be a big problem, where an admin would make a server as a side project and leave it to stew. Trolls would make bot accounts on that fledgling instance, and use them to troll other instances. And since that small instance’s admin is just doing it as a side project, they’re not keeping active tabs on anything and the troll accounts are able to run rampant. Bans didn’t federate by default, so every single instance would need to individually ban the trolls.
Also, one particular quirk of federation is that federated instances can act as a proxy for defederated instances. For instance, you’re on feddit.uk, which defederates from Threads. So you won’t see Threads content normally. But maybe another instance does allow Threads, and feddit.uk is federated with them. If a Threads user posts on that second instance, you’ll also be able to see it. Because even though your home instance blocks Threads, that second instance allows it and you see it by proxy.
You won’t see much Threads content on the Threadiverse, blocking them is more a gesture of solidarity for our micro-blogging cousins.
Yeah, I used it as an example because I knew feddit.uk defederated from it.
Thanks for all this info but I have to say, I am soooo confused.
With an account at feddit.uk, it should be ok to navigated almost whatever community. The list of block instances is short and mostly block pedoporn.
You don’t need another account. Example to access a community on lemm.ee:
https://feddit.uk/c/casualconversation@lemm.ee
Which is the same content as https://lemm.ee/c/casualconversation
Yes, you can consider it like a web forum but with the default sort set to “new post” not “new comment” as is done on Reddit. This tends to favour new content over longer discussion, although you’ll get active threads like this quite often.
And thank you for choosing feddit.uk, I hope you enjoy your time with us and if you have any other questions then fire away.
Thank you!
Welcome! Yes, it is something like that.
You chose the UK as your instance, so the local communities could already interest you: https://feddit.uk/communities
On top of that, here is a selection of 20 non-political communities: https://feddit.uk/post/22376629
App can be found on https://www.lemmyapps.com/
Finally, there is also !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca
Feel free if you have any questions!
Ah, thank you! I downloaded an app first, since I primarily use my phone for everything and apps are just easier. I think the one I’m using is called Boost? It is less confusing than I was worried it might be :)
A lot of us use voyager, modeled after apollo, but any lemmy UI is a good UI in my book.
There is also the lemmy explorer out there to help you find communities. https://lemmyverse.net/communities
/best
Boost is a good one, enjoy!
Welcome! Great to see people choosing our instance :) Like Blaze said, feel free to ask any questions, it can be a bit overwheling at first!
We’ve definitely seen an upswing in registrations this week, we usually have 1 a day and we are already on 8 today.
StarTrek.website saw 4 approved registrations in the past day, and we typically get about 1/day too.
I think we got to 11 or 12 in the end.
If you enjoy drama, this is the place to be.
The last few days were wild
Really drained the strategic popcorn reserve I tell you hwhat.
Id like to point out there are also some really good mobile apps for lemmy. I use sync for lemmy. Hopefully others will recommend there favorites. There are quite a few good ones!
Jerboa over here!
Boost is now a Lemmy app!
So is Sync but we’re in one of those blackout periods iykyk
Seconding Boost for Lemmy, was my favorite before reddits api-lypse.
Connect never gets love but is great too
I use Thunder :3
I came from the first reddit exodus and it’s been great over here. You’ll get used to it in no time, I promise.
So did I but be careful or you well also get swept up by the brainwashing here, buying a Pixel to run grapheneos, installing Linux on everything, buy privacy respecting email services, VPN and paranoid of everything. BTW I use NixOS and I am still mostly sane.
Watch out, Cat propaganda everywhere
BIG CAT IS WATCHING YOU 😼
Its true, this place is a fucked up linux echo chamber. After joining and after a lot of tests turns out distros like fedora and mint are literally what people want from steamOS.
It me!
I run Linux now.
Ah shit. I’m barely even sane and I haven’t even switched to Linux yet. I’m probs cooked.
I use a Pixel 7 (with GraphineOS) and a Librebooted Thinkpad T440p with Arch btw, also I use MullvadVPN and encrypted communication whenever possible.
I don’t own a smartphone thank you, so I won’t be getting a pixel. Already been running Linux for 15 years or so now.
I just stick to !superbowl@lemmy.world and !sillydrawingrequests@sopuli.xyz
Oh hello! Subbed.
To Newbies, I just want to say:
If you aren’t a Marxist-Leninist, you might wanna stay away from the big 3 Marxist-Leninist (aka: Tankie) instances [lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ml]
Agreed, also if you’re not a Neoliberal I would stay away from World (or if you’re Queer, a minority, or someone who isnt comfortable with seeing bigotry).
!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for people interested (now I’m not sure that’s something we should show to new joiners ha ha)
Oh don’t insult marxists leninists like that. I guess what you really mean is that those instances are for russia/china simps or nationalists. There’s nothing marxist about theur views.
How could I forget my Tankie Triad warning LMAO
Just recommend the biggest instance that isn’t federated with them. Anyone got a list?
I do think it’s valuable to recommend the bigger instances. If they’re on a big instance, they don’t have to worry about federation at all at first. It takes no effort to slowly learn about federation, and later they have the option to move to a smaller instance.
This lemmy.zip person didn’t have a good onboarding experience. @zombiegirl2010@lemmy.zip maybe?
sh.itjust.works only exposes you to Lemmy.ml but that’s been mostly okay.
That’s actually me. I simply didn’t want to carry over that username but I guess I should claim it too. Lol
Yeah, I originally joined Lemmy during the first Reddit exodus. Then, I squirreled and did not spend the necessary time to learn much about it. However, this go around I’m here and I’m serious about learning it and using Reddit much much less (in hopes to abandoning it eventually).
Some folks helped me to find apps. I’m using Avelon and I really like it. It makes figuring Lemmy out MUCH EASIER than simply bookmarking.
Glad to see you here!
The reason I push people to Lemmy.World is that you mostly don’t need to learn anything about federation. It’s obvious enough over time what the @ symbols are, and you basically pick it up through osmosis.
If you start on a really small instance, your people might not subscribe to many foreign communities. If nobody subscribes to a foreign community, it doesn’t get pulled over and doesn’t show up in ALL. That can make Lemmy look pretty barren, and you have to go out and find communities (somehow) on your own.
If you start at Lemmy.World, the all tab just works. The local tab is even a fine experience, though I wouldn’t use it here. Similar arguments with lemmy.ca and sopuli.xyz for Canada and Europe. Their all tabs might be slightly worse, but for those people the local tab should be better (actually more local), balancing it out.
Their all tabs might be slightly worse
You are aware that with 1140 and 496 monthly active users, and the use of https://lemmy-federate.com/, the All tab on those instances, as well as any other instance with more than 100 monthly active is going to be the same than on LW, right?
This used to be true a while ago, but any instance in the top 20 (https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy/ ) is going to give the same All feed.
Well that one user sure seemed to have issues.
I see
Sounds great, and good choice of instance.
Here is a list of communities to help you get started: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35001146
I wish there were an instance agnostic way to link that post.
Looks like it might be a thing coming soon?
That’s pretty good. I also just saw that you matched their instance, which is great for that particular person.
I usually do that for new joiners, especially because here they have to interact with the content.
Thank you!
Sorted by “most active”, these are the ones I recommend:
sh.itjust.works [Users 28,811 total; 2,465 / month]
lemmy.ca [Users 8,604 total; 1,138 / month]
sopuli.xyz [Users 4,967 total; 496 / month]
infosec.pub [Users 4,240 total; 325 / month] (this also defeds lemmy.ml, which the ones above doesn’t do, but this is kinda small)
Edit: Also, if someone make an account on a small instance and just search and subscribe to everything, then it would make sure the communities are synched. (someone please go do that)
There’s also this one, [Users 172,000 total; 27,400 / month]
That’s going to be the smoothest experience for people who “don’t want to deal” with federation. They can always move later.
In EVE Online we refer to this as the Brave Newbies area, the biggest, zergiest group where you don’t need to know what you’re doing. It functions as a training ground and feeder group for the more elite groups.
I’ve just had a look at your Reddit history, and you seem to very insist on Lemmy.world (https://old.reddit.com/user/serinus)
Any reason not to show people to other instances? https://sopuli.xyz/ is a popular choice for Europe, and https://discuss.online/ has a good track record for a US-based instance.
A potential interesting post: https://lemmy.world/post/24577309
Because it’s the smoothest experience for new people. If you by default end up on the local tab, it’s not barren.
I agree sopuli is great for Europe and lemmy.ca is great for Canada. sh.itjust.works is also reasonable. But people looking for general social media will have the easiest time on Lemmy.World that is the most similar to the centralized experience that they’re used to.
If you want people to actually give Lemmy a fair shot, and don’t have a specific reason to guide them elsewhere, I think it’s wise to point them to .world. They can always leave later, after they’re more familiar with federation and Lemmy.
Lemmy.world is on 0.19.3, so they are missing the following features (https://lemmy.ml/c/announcements for the details)
- Post hiding
- List of all media they previously updated and ability to delete those
- Change the vote display mode, allowing them to show or hide up and downvotes
- Quickly show the modlog of a user
The second is a very valid point for privacy, the one that caused the whole GDPR issue in March 2024: https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/
The last one is useful when you doubt whether the person you are talking to is commenting in good faith.
So yes, LW is okay, but there are other instances which offer a better experience, especially with the status pages that a lot of them have:
- https://status.lemm.ee/
- https://lemmy-meter.info/d/GeoFE5WIz/instance-health-breakdown?var-lemmy_instance=sh.itjust.works&orgId=1&refresh=1m
- https://status.lemmy.zip/status/lemmy
There are also several occurrences of LW staff power tripping without coming back after other users have provided evidence that they may not have taken the best decision: https://lemmy.world/comment/14411953
Wanted to say this too. It’s Lemmy’s biggest problem and keeps putting me off. I don’t recommend Lemmy to people in person anymore because of them. I don’t know if I would be more disturbed if they’re mostly state actors astroturfing or just deeply unwell real people
What do you think of this idea? https://lemmy.world/post/24268267