As a Washingtonian, I’m so fucking sold.
I think a lot of us in Washington and Oregon would be all for this. And we can leave the eastern sides out. Northern California is obviously welcome.
Northern California is obviously welcome.
Except for Silicon Valley, right? Or does Canada have better antitrust and worker’s rights regulations and enforcement too?
The Bay Area can be excised to form the new US charter city-state of Galt’s Gulch.
Galt’s Gulch
Sounds like a sexually transmitted disease that you can also get from reading too much Ayn Rand 😂
Trade NorCal for New England and it’s a deal.
Sorry. NorCal is part of our shared cultural region. We could probably accept New England in, though.
Same fucking here!
Minnesota welcomes Canada with the traditional poutine and tatortot hotdish border potluck
Please don’t leave us behind
Imagine the US losing the pacific coast?
They would never let it happen.
Do you remember that time Minnesota annexed the upper peninsula? Yeah crazy, but that means we get to be Canadian too
When was that? I’m a native Yooper and I never heard about MN annexing Da Yoop even as a joke.
Vermont… I think we could get this done pretty quick… In fact, I bet the rest of the US wouldn’t even notice… Bonus, we’ll bring Bernie.
Vermont is already a honorary Canadian province for producing so much maple syrup.
Making maple syrup is my favorite late winter activity! I suck at it and have no real setup so it always has an ash flavor… But sitting around a fire all day watching sap boil is very relaxing… Almost everyone taps a tree or two at least.
Can Maine come too?
Maine can go to Spain, after all we already blamed the Maine on Spain.
Upvote for semi-obscure history reference, which unfortunately most products of US education won’t get.
But to get from Maine to Spain you must fly in a plane.
Gotta get your politics in line… Ranked choice voting was a good start… Is that still a thing?
For federal offices yes, for state offices it would require a constitutional amendment. I think Maine is decently progressive despite the second district.
Yeah, I think all of New England is down for this. Please.
I’m so down for this.
It’s funny how much more favorable the comments are on this compared donnie’s original comments.
Canadians on joining the US: “oh hell no!”
Americans on joining Canada: “me too please!”
Sooo, as a Canadian, I’m pretty sure I have the authority to speak for all of us, and as much as I’d love to have you all, I’d rather not tempt fate and accidentally start a war.
Also, Indiana, Idaho, South Dakota and Wyoming, you’re expressly not allowed in.
You’re not going to allow states that don’t border you but you’re okay with Montana? And I wouldn’t say North Dakota is a bastion of progressivism either.
Pfft. Everyone knows nobody really lives in Montana. They just pretend they do on paper so they can incorporate LLC’s there and put license plates on their dirt bikes and quads. Montana’s entire population is actually in Kentucky and Florida.
Just think of all the moose you could farm in that space, or whatever it is the Canadians want to do with it.
Yeah, NoDak is pretty strong red hat territory. They wouldn’t be a good fit.
Also, Indiana, Idaho, South Dakota and Wyoming, you’re expressly not allowed in.
There’s far too many MAGA hats in Montana and North Dakota for them to be welcomed either.
I think Alabama is one where the feeling is mutual.
I wonder what Hawaii and Alaska would think.
As a Canadian, Hawaii really don’t feel Canadian. Would they be better off as their own thing?
I thought Alaska could join as a territory and not a province but then realized that Alaska has more population than the 3 territories combined and then it’s still over 6 times more.
Re-establish the Kingdom of Hawaii!
Since, you know, that was a sovereign government we had a hand in overthrowing
Well, we did name a popular but um controversial pizza after them.
entire west coast: let us in!
I don think you’d have to become part of Canada to join the Commonwealth so maybe there’s a chance?
Yes. One million times yes. Let’s watch the GOP fucking implode when the largest GDP State (CA) leaves their ass. It’s insane they are whining about our fires… Idaho was far more on fire this year than us in California. And that was all forest, not literal neighborhoods that 100% raked their fuckin leaves.
Take Oregon and Washington and the USA is left without a Pacific Coast…LOL!
But my manifest destiny!
I live in WA and I want this more than anything.
Here’s a nice compromise position - Canada becomes a republic; in exchange, the West Coast and the East Coast down to Maryland (or Virginia) join as unincorporated territories or whatever the Canuck equivalent is.
please save us from Y’All Qaeda
I remember seeing something similar in the W days.
It is the fact that the US is a republic that is the problem. If any US states join Canada they do it as a province of the federation.
I refuse to have anything to do with having a m*narch on my money 😤
I’m fine with being a province, but it’s republic or bust
That’s ok. You stay where you are and we’ll stay a federation.
That’s it, I support the Quebecois now! They’ll understand the value of a good guillotine, at least
That’s why all the billionaires are in such a hurry to get to space. Guillotines require gravity.
Isn’t a guy on your money had a child from an underage slave or am I mistaking him with some other slave holding hero of the country?
Canafornia, a Democracy with no need for an electorial college, and free of having the monarch on their money.
If anything was really done, I assume it’d be just opening up (+incentivizing) immigration. Skilled labor/health/money probably will still be huge barriers, so I think the most effect it could have would be brain drain.
As a Washingtonian, I would LOVE for this to happen. It’s a shame she’s joking.
I mean, as a Canadian I would say come on and get this going. Hell Alaska can join as well.
Then tarriff the shit out of Trump for anything being shipped through new Canada from China lol.
Speaking at a press conference last week in Ottawa, May called out the president-elect, saying, "Hey, Donald, have we got a deal for you? You think we want to be the 51st state huh? But maybe California would like to be the 11th province. How about it? California? Oregon? Washington?
I live in California and I’d like this. But then the USA would never have a non-GOP president ever again and that’s against my conscience.
Washington would fit right in. Western Washington is already a lot like British Columbia, and Eastern Washington is already a lot like Alberta.
Alberta, aka Hellberta, aka the Texas of Canada.
Oh come on, our power grid is not that bad.
No, but the right-wing mindset is.
News to me, same crazy people all over. But as Canada’s punching bag, feel free to take it out on Alberta.
I lived in Cowtown in 1979-82, before it was this bad. Kind of liked it then … not so much now.
I get the idea, but you have not lived here since 82. I have to travel a bit in the prairies and let me tell you a lot of Canada makes cowtown look like a progressive paradise. Is it worse now, yeah. Is it as bad as say a town in Manitoba or Saskatchewan? Nope, but we Canadians don’t like to think of our countries slide into right wing populism out side of Alberta.
At some point it stops being a game of “save everyone”, and starts becoming “save as many as you can”.
I think each individual state should be able to choose whether they stay in the US or not. Every ten years, the citizens of the state voted. If you vote to leave, you can’t come back for ten years. It would take place at the same time as the census.
Yes, the one aspect of the civil war that I have never agreed with was that a stare can not choose to leave the Union. If a terratory can vote to join the Union, I see no reason why they couldn’t vote to leave it. On that note, I would also support the idea that the other states should have the right to vote out a state they no longer want in the Union.
You’re right. Self determination is a right we all have.
Which state is the Weakest Link?
Based on statistics, easily Mississippi. But most obnoxious is easily Texas. Texas would be my first vote out.
Just ignoring Florida’s existence?
Just a few more years
Eh, I’d love to boot all the old confederate states, but picking off the worst first only helps the whole.
Seconded. If we oust Texas, we can regain control over the content in school textbooks.
People who want to flee can still be welcomed as refugees.
If we could trick Mexico into taking back Texas that would be ideal. But Mexico is way too smart to fall for that.
I am so fucking on board with this, lfg!
Mississippi? Alabama? Wyoming? One of those probably.
Not just three, all the Blue States would like to switch to province.
As an American, let me just say, 🎶 Oh Canada… 🎶
Some required listening before joining: A Canadian comedy debate on whether O Canada is the best national anthem
If the whole “annex Canada” stuff was just a distraction, this might become a reality, fascists like Trump are highly irrational, and might give them the 3 most western states, especially California.
Am Californian, would seriously consider joining Canada.
Trump could reflexively say whatever (as he does) but so much cargo comes through here his business people wouldn’t let him do it. Too much of a tariff risk.
California has gone blue every 4 years since 1992.
If your 54 EC votes leave, this country is absolutely doomed. Please take us with you.
Yeah, right. If California joined they’d be subsidizing health care for the rest of Canada through transfer payments since every province would be considered a “have not province” compared to California.
This is like inviting your billionaire uncle to move in with you and also open a joint bank account.
Edit: just to put some numbers on my point, the GSP (gross state product) of California is $4 trillion, nearly twice that of the GDP of Canada which is $2.18 trillion. Canada’s economy would effectively triple in size by bringing in California.
She’s trolling trump. It’s not a serious proposition.
One can still fantasize about a brighter future, can they?
Yes, by all means. Considering how dismal it’s about to be in the states, the only ones that would revile you for imaging a brighter future are mostly those who voted to make it darker.
Plus, while May is a parliamentarian, she is also the leader of a party of one elected person.
Which should have been three elected if Trudeau had kept his promise of electoral reform.
Isn’t this kinda already the case when you compare California to other states? In terms of subsidizing the rest of the country, not healthcare.
Canada has a massive program of equalization transfer payments where taxes collected in rich provinces go to subsidize poor ones. The US does not have anything like this. None of the state governments have their budgets subsidized by other states.
None of the state governments have their budgets subsidized by other states.
Maybe not directly, but… https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/donor-states
I wonder if Canada sending its water bombers so that California doesn’t get burnt to a crisp counts as a transfer payment.
Nah, that’s just being a good neighbour.
Yes subsidized healthcare is the goal.
Mostly ours is single payer, except for prescriptions, etc.
Although it has been moving further towards private because of the right-wing provincial governments (who control healthcare spending).
Our population would double too
And we wouldn’t have to cross the border to fight wildfires anymore!
We already don’t have to. Plenty of wildfires happen here too.
chonglibloodsport has forgotten how much smoke and burning embers we sent America last year.
Better balance all that by including New England. In Massachusetts, we’re already closest to universal healthcare
