I still find it crazy its a “request for leave” which they can deny rather than “im not coming in today, I need to go to the hospital”
Request for leave is for longer term absence.
Still shitty
„I am not coming in until at least the xx.xx.xxxx as I am still sick.“
There you go. That’s how it works here. The employer can then collect the doctors confirmation online.
After six weeks it requires a bit more effort, as the employer no longer needs to pay wages and you need to apply for sick pay from the insurance, which is 70% for up to a year and a half.
The very thought of an employer not allowing you to be sick is just ridiculous.
We’re burning the wrong Amazon
An Amazon spokesperson told HuffPost on Friday that the denial was due to an error in Scott-Windham’s time off request and said she has the company’s “full support.”
What sort of reasonable “error” could possibly deny something like this?
It’s the “we didn’t expect the news to pick this up and start reporting on it. We don’t want this kind of bad press” error.
Really though it does sound like a retarded mistake I don’t think anyone was sipping on a whisky, smiling and hitting the deny button.
It’s clearly an automatic deny button.
You understand how thats worse right?
Yep
The sort of error that only occurs when it might become bad PR.
The small error that when they decided to violate FMLA laws, they didn’t realize anyone was watching.
I don’t know how Amazon works but I imagine it’s some sort of form submission and she chose the wrong option.
Don’t think that makes it okay, time off requests should be considered by a human who actually interacts with the employee, in my opinion, but I can see it happening. Dealt with that when I worked for Walmart. I definitely got a few days off that I submitted through the automated system online and have no idea if anyone ever approved.
My entire impression of HR at amazon warehouses is HR is there to onboard new hires and occasionally act as an equivalent to t1 tech support. You go to the amazon worker subreddit and about half the posts talking about a problem have comments like ‘yeah just call corporate HR they’ll fix it’ because onsite HR fucked something up.
edit: Also worth noting, that same subreddit is pointing out that medical leave of absence is always approved by default with 30 days to provide proof so yeah she probably put in for the wrong type of leave.
Most people who have worked at an amazon warehouse will tell you the same story: yes amazon sucks, no not for that reason in the news. Amazon was the 2nd best warehouse I’ve worked at, but that’s more a condemnation of the industry than praise for amazon.
It’s a PR lie to save face.
The same thing insurance companies say when people go to the media about them.
She made the error of neglecting to go public.
Appropriate, as Amazon is one of the major companies trying to have the NLRB,which gives unions a modicum of pushback against corps, declared “unconstitutional”. Id expect a full press on that in the fist year if successful, id expect major portions of the NLRA itself to be targeted.
Lots of blood and sweat and tears of the 19th and 20th century being washed away right now that will have to be shed again to get these rights back.
I’m pretty sure this is D.O.G.E. main goal
Even if it’s a weird computer or paperwork fluke, it’s emblematic of the company, so there’s no version of this where they don’t go fuck themselves.
What is a request for time off? I am informing you I will not be there. There is no request.
Request denied. We are informing you that should you choose to ignore your contractual obligations by neglecting to perform, we will be forced to recover any potential damages because of your actions through binding arbitration. We thank you for being part of the Amazon family and your continued dedication to our family.
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What wonderful country do you live in and can we all move there?
I think its called “the Rest of the Western World”
This is one of those open and shut FMLA violations that even shitty companies can’t get away with though and they know it.
The lady will be canned one way or another once they get back to the office because they violated some bullshit policy about how you can’t talk to the press or some bullshit. Will probably take a couple months and involve a PIP for “poor performance”
Very few Amazon warehouse workers qualify for FMLA. They intentionally have a system designed to use up people and spit them out in just under a year so they don’t qualify.
There are entire industries of low-skill jobs that intentionally try to keep worker retention low to keep from having to comply with labor laws.
If she’s been there less than a year or worked under a certain number of hours in the last year she doesn’t even qualify for FMLA.
“The wrong amazon is burning.”
- quoting some comment I read somewhere
If you still use Amazon, you’re supporting this kind of capitalism
Unfortunately it’s very difficult not to support Amazon indirectly because they make a lot of their money from AWS, which a large fraction of the internet runs on.
don’t let perfect be the enemy of evil. punching back a behemoth corporation whose policies actively hurt people is significantly better than just letting them steamroll you.
better late than never, cancelled my subscription last week!
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But why should anyone have to grind at a shit job? If your business can only survive by grinding people down, maybe society would be better off without it. If the only way we can get same day delivery is over the burnt-out, permanently injured ex-employees of a multi-national, is it really worth it? Maybe that start-up never should have made it. Maybe strong labor laws should have forced them to scale back their ambitions or close their doors.
If they were deemed useless, they wouldn’t become a target. The useless phrasing is more that their direction for the purpose of the company is useless overall. Line goes up isn’t always a reflection of how well the company is doing for itself and its customers. You are right that CEOs usually set how the company runs, as my work a few years ago transitioned to a new CEO after decades of the first, and it’s showing. What’s frustrating is when they continue to play off that they are the same company and policy to keep morale up, but it’s obvious things are different.
Newsweek is pretty shit, but at least it’s not a screenshot of a tweet so thank you.
You can’t make this shit up. Reality is so horrible, especially with mega corporations.
Absolutely heartless
Got it. Understood. Any and all Amazon representatives will continue to function after being shot.
