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Summary
President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.
The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.
Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.
Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.
This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.
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The prior president pardoned a family member who was blackmailing and raping people, then appointed the same criminal to be ambassador to France. I don’t give a fuck what President Biden does now. We’re a country of criminals and oligarchs now.
Always have been.
… it’s a big club and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club…
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It’s incredibly sad to see Democrats embrace hypocrisy with pride regarding a simple and obvious issue like this.
Trump will have a field day pardoning Jan 6 criminals with this additional political cover from Biden.
He was going to do those J6 pardons anyways, don’t kid yourself. He didn’t need “additional cover”.
*Biden was going to do this pardon anyway, don’t kid yourself believing his constant lies.
Conservatives keep breathing air too, did they need permission from liberals to do that too?
Don’t mistake every action for a reaction. This is a mess but they were gonna do this and worse always, anyways, they already have.
Don’t mistake hypocrisy for meaningful principles.
No silly, he was going to have Kamala do it.
Too bad that that bridge has sailed…
A sycophant is much better than a nepotist
Lol and that’s why you voted for Trump, right?
Like he needed that cover. Remember how he pardoned war criminals in his last days back in 2020?
Hypocrisy is a victimless crime right
First part is true. It is sad and even a pretty respectable president has taken a fuck it attitude toward nepotism. Second part of your statement is silly though. Trump is shameless criminal, no amount of “cover” is needed - he was going to pardon those traitors regardless.
If democracy ever re-emerges in some other time or place, hopefully they won’t give this power to presidents. It’s ridiculous and heavily abused throughout history.
Trump has now won twice because of Dem incompetence and hypocrisy.
Dems moving to the right is not irrelevant to Trump’s existence in office.
If democracy ever re-emerges in some other time or place
Why don’t you cool it with the American exceptionalism? There are lots of countries that are still democratic, and have been more democratic than the US for many decades.
Just because US democracy has failed doesn’t mean it’s failed globally. Sit down for a bit, shut up, fix your own shit, try not to start an illegal war for a while, and then re-join us when you’re ready.
Where? France? South Korea? Germany? India? Wake up - democracy crumbling isn’t an isolated Amerocentric phenomenon.
I love when people use Trump as a litmus test for good behavior and how openly hypocrisy is displayed like a badge of honor.
Go ahead and ride your high horse on that moral high road, just don’t trip over all the corpses.
Go ahead and wear your hypocrisy like a badge of honor.
yeah well you go and simmer your hypocrisy on a medium heat until it toasts up golden brown
More word salad please.
“I have no principles”
“This guy keeps punching me in the face but I think punching is morally wrong so I’ll just let him break my nose.”
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This is exactly what they say about you too justify what they’re doing.
It’s amazing how quickly all the pride in our founding, American values, principles, etc are just discarded the moment one team loses an election.
This is exactly what they say about you too
Bro they spent 5 years talking about adrenochrome and “demonrats” space lasers I’d be surprised if they could pronounce my name. I don’t need to do anything to trigger them, so why even dance around?
You cometely missed my point. You’re using the same shitty logic they are. “Both sides” are doing the same thing.
Principles don’t win in America anymore. We just proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt a month ago.
So now it’s just “your dictator” vs. “their dictator” eh?
Nah. I just want the party that has a history of voting in favor of working class Americans and being better for our economy to do what they need to do to get elected in America. Which is lie, cheat, and steal.
This has to be one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read.
Probably because you haven’t read very much.
Which part specifically though?
The FACT that Democrats have a voting history proving they regularly vote in favor of the working class? The FACT that Democrats are historically better for our economy and the data to prove that exists? Or the brand new FACT that to win an election in the United States you have to lie, cheat, and steal?
The part where you think a party willing to cheat and lie will hold to liberal democracy ideals.
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Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, …
Oh shut the fuck up.
The Supreme Court undermined the judicial system.
Why did Biden say he had full faith in the judicial process this entire year until now then?
I would hope he was lying. I can’t imagine he’s so stupid he can’t see.
Who says liars can’t also be stupid?
True. Just look at Drump.
Exactly.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he can’t see or understand the situation very well. The man is ancient.
I really appreciate that you took the time to bold it, made me chuckle 😁 I feel you though 💙
The votes came in. The country chose corruption and “fuck it” politics. At this point Joe just wants to protect himself / family from the coming retribution administration.
This is yet another example of Biden just not doing things sufficiently enough. He must issue a preemptive umbrella pardon for himself, as Trump’s DOJ, FBI, and CIA will go after him
I agree, he should push the limit of what’s possible to force the Supreme Court to rule on the actions, call their bluff, lay bare the hypocrisy officially for all the world to see.
Exactly. By not testing the supreme court, he is seen as being complicit in the manipulation of the system that Trump plans to implement and he might fall victim of it himself. The chances that Biden dies of old age during a lengthy court case or in jail, unfortunately, are non-zero.
In any case, Dem’s lack of imagination is just astounding
Dems have always been cowards :/
Testing the supreme court could also result in certain dictatorial powers for Trump. At the moment they are only theoretical.
Trump will test anyway, so not testing only delays the inevitable
He should have threatened to start jailing Senators as an official act unless they pass a law/amendment saying that he can’t.
He still can, in fact.
He pardoned himself in his mind, same way Trump declassified those documents.
Exactly! The same way Trump locked Hillary up in prison after he won in 2016 right.
History has now shown us that there was evidently no one on the ballot who wasnt a “corruption and fuck it politics” candidate.
I’ve always found it absurd that presidents possess the authority to grant pardons. It trivializes our judicial system and undermines its integrity. This power should not be vested in the presidency.
It’s supposed to be a check on the judicial. Are you suggesting it should be vested elsewhere or just not at all? I wouldn’t remove any checks on this court personally
Honestly, I think it’s more of a practical matter. Even if they didn’t have explicit pardon power, whoever’s in charge of the executive has effective pardon powers by simply denying to carry out the orders of the court (see Jackson’s behavior which lead to the trail of tears).
At least by making it official it’s a lot more clear what’s going on, and maybe they had hoped this would lead to electoral consequences for those who abused it?
Lol.
Most of these comments are a great example of how stupid Americans are.
All my life Dems have been held to a higher standard. I’ve watched them take the high road so many times while the Republicans went low. Continued to honor decorum when Republicans refused.
And guess what happened?
Americans told them to go fuck themselves and voted for blatant Republican corruption instead.
And now there’s a bunch of comments in here whining about how Democrats are corrupt for doing this.
Go fuck yourselves. Clowns.
He said he wouldn’t but at this point Joe might as well YOLO idk anymore.
It would be cool if he went out in a blaze of glory that wasn’t self serving. Like legalizing weed, arming Ukraine, and just generally trying to fuck shit up for Trump before he gets in.
this, except 3 years ago?
four years of dark brandon would have gotten democrats the trifecta.
A blaze of glory would be utilizing his Supreme-Court-granted powers of presidential immunity and officially act to save, at bare minimum, the country.
Right, there is always that elephant in the room.
Don’t forget getting rid of the penny and axing daylight saving time. 100% president of the century if he executive ordered these things.
I don’t think it’s so much YOLO as recognizing that Hunter would be a target of Trump once he assumes office.
It seems to me to be a form of self defense. People do things that they otherwise wouldn’t do when the alternative is bad enough.
Reading through these comments and seeing people excuse this because trump is worse validates the race-to-the-bottom strategy that republicans and democrats cooperate on. Republicans will keep lowering the bar while democrats will continue hovering slightly above that bar as their only differentiator and we’re all on the ride on the way down.
The gun crime is bullshit. That law isn’t enforced on anyone. It’s also probably unconstitutional if you follow the conservative understanding of that amendment (which is complete bullshit, but that’s beside the point).
Tax evasion, sure. That maybe shouldn’t be pardoned but also it’s only an issue because he’s the president’s son. I don’t dismiss this, but also I recognize that it’s mostly bullshit Republicans drummed up because they couldn’t get anything on Biden.
I will point out to every conservative who defends Trump who says anything about this though. Trump is literally a convicted felon, and multiple cases are being dismissed because he was elected. If they think Hunter shouldn’t get off free, then they better have some strong reasons Trump should.
This pardon also stops any investigation into the “10% for the big guy” email.
God’s getting a cut?
You do have to remember that most of us didn’t give a fuck about this supposed crime to begin with. I mean who Among Us hasn’t lied to the government about our drug history?
Also should mention that it’s clearly unconstitutional by the way.
who Among Us hasn’t lied to the government about our drug history?
Me. I’ve yet to be given the opportunity… but I’ll be happy to lie about if it comes up.
Also should mention that it’s clearly unconstitutional by the way.
Then they should fight it legally and win. That would also set precedent for others who aren’t rich and powerful.
It would also be amusing to watch liberals making a 2A argument in court.
The cover up is the crime. Why did the FBI spread false Russian Propaganda misinformation?
Gun charge “while using illegal drugs”.
Tax fraud.
c’mon now, fuck all that shit. 100% political, “witch hunt”, and all that. I would have thought less of Joe had he not done this.
I wish that my Dad loved me as much as Joe Biden loves his Sons.
Eric Trump, is that you?
I get it now, you simp for Biden because of your daddy issues.
Awwwww muffin…
Clearly your Dad didn’t love you either. (Hugs)
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Man I thought blue MAGA was just a stupid meme but I guess it’s real. Fuck the Democratic Party, I’m out.
You can’t really think that anyone gives a shit about Hunter Biden and his schoolyard antics in a vacuum.
I care about the wealthy and powerful being above the law while working class people get the shaft. Democrats claimed to be concerned about this too. But I guess it was all partisan theatre.
But the only reason he was being prosecuted was because of his connection to Biden. An average working class person would never have been charged with this crime in the first place.
I care about the wealthy and powerful being above the law
This is the opposite of what happened. Hunter was only prosecuted because he was BELOW THE LAW. An ordinary person wouldn’t have been prosecuted for buying a gun.
“he only broke some minor laws”
I don’t feel like searching, but can you find such zealous prosecution for a nobody for these crimes?
Strong argument.
Um no?
Don’t tell me if you knew the threat to democracy who had a personal vendetta against you and your child was following you in office and has threatened and made blind accusations multiple times that you would NOT pardon them. Biden did the right thing as a parent and a mildly objectionable thing on a moral standpoint politically which… just fuck off with that. I don’t wanna hear about morality from the party that constantly defends rapist and child abusers
I don’t want to hear about morality regarding biden and his full-throated support of genocide. He said he wouldn’t pardon his son and that he believed in the rule of law, but when it comes down to it, he goes ahead and pardons him because he ultimately knows the institutions he has fought so hard to defend are full of shit. Us peasants are still supposed to be held under the power of these institutions, though, and he has done nothing to change that. In fact, he’s played a big hand in making it as bad as it is now with his tough on crime stance.
Is not a race to bottom. It is just the most clear indication that the American system of governance has massive flaws and, as a set of institutions, the system has no way to protect itself from abuse.
It is wild how they willing to defend their side no matter what. This is absolute abuse of power regardless of detail. Again, it is understandable and expected, but still abuse of power.
I and almost certainly evey other non-psycho father would have done the same.
Reading through these comments and seeing people excuse this because trump is worse validates the race-to-the-bottom strategy that republicans and democrats cooperate on.
No, you don’t seem to understand. The race to the bottom strategy was a Republican thing. But now that we know that’s how you win in America, some of us are supporting that strategy for Democrats as well.
Gotta adapt to your environment to succeed.
I’m on board with that, but democrats refuse to take advantage of their power for our sake. He’s just doing this for his own sake. This selfishness is what allowed trump a second term, since democrats would’ve had a much better chance if biden stepped down earlier and allowed for a proper primary.
but democrats refuse to take advantage of their power for our sake.
I agree that they could do more. But I also acknowledge that they’ve done WAY more for us than the Republican party has. I don’t vote for perfect. I vote for better.
He’s just doing this for his own sake.
I’m ok with him pardoning his son. First of all, Trump threatened to go after his political opponents if he won. That’s a threat to Biden’s son. So Biden did something about it. Secondly, Biden was, by all metrics, a solid president. And Americans told him and his party to fuck off and re-hired a twice impeached convicted felon and rapist who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election. We treated Biden like shit. He doesn’t owe us anything additional. I think it’s fine to take this small victory to protect his son from unwarranted threats and then retire.
since democrats would’ve had a much better chance if biden stepped down earlier
I agree. But I also have a pretty low opinion of Americans, so I don’t know if it would have mattered in the end.
I’m not happy about this. Not one bit. Just like how I wouldn’t have been happy to hear about Trump pardoning one of his own kids for breaking the law. As a matter of fact, I’m furious reading some of the comments in this thread.
It shocks me to see people defending this. We fought against the Republicans to prevent misuse of executive powers exactly like this. How the fuck can you sit there and rationalize this while saying it’s wrong for Trump to pardon the Jan 6th insurrectionists? or himself for that matter?
This is a black stain on Biden’s presidential legacy. It’s shit like this that puts wind in the sails of all the crazy Republican conspiracy theorists out there. Now, every single motherfucker who ranted and raved about the “Biden Crime Family” since 2020 was just proven right, just like how all the people who said that Trump’s convictions were politically motivated were proven right when Jack Smith dropped the charges. It makes us look like fucking morons and hypocrites.
No, before anyone says it, it is not smart to stoop to their level when basically the only messaging we sent out during the entire 2024 campaign was that we were the morally superior choice. That someone who doesn’t respect the rule of law has no business being president. Now, we don’t even have that to lean on.
It’s not a great look…but let’s be frank. Biden was pushed out of a race he wanted, during a presidency that wasn’t all that bad considering what came before. The Dems that wanted him out are now all either infighting, or saying everything is fine and they’ll definitely win in four years. Biden’s in the last weeks of his job, and when he’s lost so much already he probably just wants to ensure his family are safe.
After decades of public service, and being committed to handing power over to someone that’s demonized what’s left of his family, I’m all for Biden using his last week or two to protect his family and enjoy retirement.
I can’t stand this “not a good look” talk when democrats have to basically be squeaky cleak that they can’t even own a peanut farm or swear and yet 10 years into the “grab them by the pussy” guy who makes fun of disabled people, women, calls everyone names including his own party… Nobody bats an eyelash. I don’t care if Joe Biden lied for his son at this point, Donald pardoned and will continue to pardon dozens of family and staff and insurrectionists. It’s ok for Trump to lie about not knowing project 2025 and then immediately hire everyone involved with it days later… But Biden can’t lie once. Got it.
“The other guys do bad things, so it’s okay for us to do bad things as well”. What kind of argument is that?
Pardoning your family members is corrupt plain and simple, doesn’t matter what political party they belong to, doesn’t matter who they are. It should be called out.
If Republicans demonize democrats and project their own crimes for half a century without facts then it’s honestly time to stop crying wolf and do some things that they’re getting accused of. Why does a red name get a pass? If it isn’t both sides but everyone thinks it is anyway then there is no reason to not do bad stuff. Trump has proven that you will get rewarded for being the worst human possible and more. He is apparently the ideal American so to not lie cheat and steal is un-American. If Biden helps his son once in the face of 30+ terrible felonies president trump did himself, not including his cronies, then so be it. I really hope Biden breaks everyone’s brain about pardons because it will bring every other scummy pardon into question too from other presidents.
Pardoning family members is corrupt plain and simple. Justifying those actions based on the actions of others does not make it any less corrupt.
Loosing your ethical integrity in an effort to “get even” only favors extremists who do not care about a country. I suggest everyone reading this take an objective look at the situation and see where we’re headed.
I don’t think it’s that simple, if the only reason your family members were persecuted was for political reasons to begin with. Let’s not pretend that conservatives actually care about this law, if they did then most of their influencers and celebrities would be in prison for this. You could start with Joe Rogan who talks all the time about his drug use and hunting past times.
The mental gymnastics are endless amongst the establishment. Using addiction as a cover for corruption is just par huh.
A summary of the charges and convictions of Hunter Biden:
Gun Charge Conviction: Hunter Biden was convicted of three felony counts for lying on a federal firearms application. He pleaded guilty to making a false statement, saying he was not a drug user, and illegally possessing a firearm for 11 days.
Tax Convictions: Hunter Biden pleaded guilty to nine federal tax charges in Los Angeles, including three felony tax offenses and six misdemeanor tax offenses. He failed to pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes for tax years 2016-2019 and filed false returns.
Plea Deal: Initially, Hunter Biden pleaded guilty to the tax charges and faced a maximum sentence of 17 years in prison.
Why celebrate them doing it for selfish reasons? Biden is finally willing to break norms but not to do anything that’ll actually benefit the country.
Your arguments would make sense if he tried to pack the supreme court or take extra measures to prevent project 2025 but he’s just protecting his guilty son… Yay?
This is simple tribalism at best.
It is “corrupt” (within quotation marks because it is also legal). But it can also be understandable. Given his circumstances, I know what I’d do. The same. Without a doubt. What would you do?
Of course he can be criticised, go right ahead. I don’t care. But let’s also be honest. We are no saints. No matter what, he will never be elected to anything again ever. Just huffing and puffing is fairly pointless and makes people look blustering, not principled.
You can not use the “we’re just human” argument on a leader of a country. Their actions affect people’s lives and liberty, they have a responsibility to protect those.
I don’t care what you would do. It is corrupt. Pacifism is how we ended up with Hitler.
But Biden can’t lie once. Got it.
I mean… He ran in 2020 saying he would only be a one-term President…
And then him and his staff hid his cognitive decline well past the start of the primaries…
He also said there’d be consequences for Israel if they didn’t start allowing aid into Gaza…
So that’s four lies, counting his backtrack on pardoning his son.
The problem is Biden helped create the legal system he’s now shielding his son from. The same legal system that put thousands upon thousands of sons and daughters behind bars.
And with the recent attention police conduct has gotten (and all the footage we see of officers abusing/torturing/beating/killing those being arrested), how many of those kids never made it to the courtroom because of ol’ Joe “Maybe Cops Can Just Shoot-em in the Leg” Biden and the militarized police force he helped create?
You’re right, Republicans are corrupt to the core, they’re pieces of shit, and they have and will do things that are worse than this. But that doesn’t excuse the fact that this only benefits the Biden family, and is corruption, full stop. I understand why he did it, and I’ve gone back and forth on whether I’d do the same in his shoes (which probably means I would)…
But he deserves to be criticized for it, as I would be, because it’s blatant corruption, and just reinforces the notion amongst non-voters that both parties are the same, they only care about protecting and enriching their own, and us plebs can just go fuck ourselves.
And actions like this are exactly why people say “both parties,” because they prove it.
Yeah honestly I’d do the same if I were in his position. I can’t blame him.
I’m not a fan of the nepotism and I don’t plan on defending it. Biden claims he needs to do this to keep his family safe from an unfair system. If he’s going to do stuff like this and acknowledge our institutions are flawed how about do stuff for the American people, Ukraine, or anyone without the last name Biden. The peaceful transfer of power to fascism, but his family got theirs leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
No shit, he had 4 years to do these
He’s got 48 days. It’s time for Joe to get writing.
i would have said ‘no’ a little while ago but now fuck it, the people have spoken. the problem now is that he isn’t doing enough fuckery to benefit the people. supreme court declared that the president is above the law and he isn’t doing anything with that. sc did it for trump but biden could and should use it. literally send everything on the dod depot to ukraine, give unlimited funds to solar and wind, forgive every loan and shoot modafukin steve bannon in the face
Agreed. Fuck 'em. I’d have been bothered if the system held accountable the horrible people that are about to come to power. At this point Hunter’s crimes look like a joke on this background.
Biden could literally dress up like Commando and slaughter the Supreme Court on live tv without “undermining the judicial process.” Can’t undermine something if it doesn’t exist.
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It’s just easier if he does it, since SCOTUS already said it was legal.
No need to pardon anybody if he just orders Seal Team 6 in there to do it. It’s an official act.
Just thinking about this
I am more shocked by people supporting Biden’s action than the action itself
It really shows how fucked up and desperate the American political discourse is at this point IMO. Before it was “see how much integrity Biden has for not even pardoning his own son”, now it’s turned into “Hunter was a political prisoner and victim of unjust persecution” in an instant. No one is willing to admit any faults because the other side gleefully profits from them. I can understand why people do it, but it’s a worrying indication for the state of politics in America.
I got attacked a lot for speaking of “blue MAGA”. But this is an aspect of it. The Republicans managed to push their fanatic cult of personality, rally around the leader, no mistakes are made, critics are opponents and need to be kicked out kind of political “culture” into parts of the Democratic base.
But this is a kind of “dont wrestle a pig in the mud” situation. By adopting the Republicans culture and way of thinking, it gives them further strength.
We need to accept that “they go low, we go high” isn’t working and pivot to “they go low, we step on them”.
We shouldn’t be abiding by the rules and precedent they willfully ignore. We too can play dirty.
But we’ve lost if the DNC ever succumbs to a strongman cult of personality like the Republicans did. Where if you don’t lick the boot you’re a Democrat in name only.
I never said Biden had integrity and I fully support this pardon because it was an absolute political witch hunt. Biden talked a big game but he continued the liberal tradition of giving money to large corporations and rich people instead of small businesses and the working class. Anyone that expected integrity wasn’t paying attention.
Absolutely. It’s turned into /r/TheJoe around here. Pretty disappointed in all those cheering on this shit just because it’s their team.
I’m very torn about it. I don’t think he would have done it if Kamala won. I can totally see Trump trying to get Hunter beheaded, so in that way I’m fine with what Biden did.
The same way Trump totally locked Hillary up after he won in 2016 right?
He had guardrails last time. I want to go to sleep come January 20th at this point and not wake up.
I support it. This as miscarriage as a miscarriage of justice gets. A politically motivated investigation turns unfiled taxes and a gun law that could imprison half the country (smoke a joint after going to a range and you’re guilty too) into a politically rejected plea deal and 25 years in prison?
That’s a fucking nightmare not justice. He should be on an IRS payment plan and monitoring for drugs. That’s the normal outcome.
I support it.
Americans explicitly voted for blatant corruption.
Now they’re going to get it.
We’re just getting what we voted for.
I am more shocked by people supporting Biden’s action than the action itself
I am more shocked by you not fully realizing a year ago that this was exactly what was going to happen than anything Biden did. Hunter Biden was prosecuted for something that likely nobody else would have been.
Honestly, who cares? Good for him.
Good. I hope the democrats play just as dirty and hard as the republicans going forward. We cannot be civil with barbarians.
I would also like them to do that too, but I would prefer they do it for something other than nepotism.
The left needs a populist movement like Bernie Sanders has been saying, the movements the left has seen prior to this point have tapered out because they didn’t get money backed support, and because they didn’t capture the hearts and mind of the comfortable democrat voter.
It’s had been an uphill battle till now, but maybe things will be different going forward because the republicans are going to peel back a lot of hard won rights and freedoms, and also degrade quality of life and standards of living with their health, economic and education policies.
…I don’t disagree, but I’m struggling to see how this is related to my comment. Are you replying to the right person?
Oh thanks, don’t recall which one I was replying to
In a world where we keep poking each other’s eyes out, everyone ends up blind.
Stop, please.
I believe in the goodness in people more than is optimistically allowed, but even I am forced to acknowledge the existence of sociopaths and psychopaths who abuse the good will of innocents and well-meaning people alike.
Sociopaths and psychopaths will always make fun of those they abuse, and they will use the morals and ethics of people against them.
Sociopaths and psychopaths will always make fun of those they abuse, and they will use the morals and ethics of
peoplesimple hypocrites against them.You are a simple hypocrite.
Wow, dude calls out shitty people and you decide to claim solidarity with the shitty people.
Wow, dude uses shitty people as a litmus test for good behavior and you decide to claim solidarity with the shitty people.
Yeah, I don’t believe you know what you are talking about.
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Stop both sides bs, this is a guy pardoning his son’s addiction, not committing treason, attacking the capital, or selecting a cabinet of pedophiles. Have some fucking humanity, putibot.
Have some fucking humanity, putibot.
humanity for the guy responsible for thousands of dead kids and many more being starved simply for the crime of being born in a disgusting apartheid state ? the hypocrisy of the american elites knows no shame.
biden deserves all the misery in this life and after it.
Biden is trash but it’s somewhat absurd to hold him accountable for USA’s long history of genocidal imperialism. If it weren’t him, it would just be another brainwashed puppet.
biden has the highest donation from aipac and has basically acted as their pimp for all his political career. he held the ukraine aid hostage to supply 2000lb bombs to mass murder civilians in refugee camps. atleast in past there was the pretense of cold war but this time its a democrat president shamelessly enabling a genocide of poor brown people while starving & evicting them from their own land. forget weapons they don’t even have enough tents and food to survive the winter and this two faced shtihag is sending them f-35 and artillery worth tens of billions.
and now his whoring addict son making millions of his political connections while cheating millions on taxes deserves 10yr blanket pardon while newborns are blown to pieces by his very policies ? and this make him humane ?
downvotes all you want but you are all are defending a rotten genocider
Palestinian newborn twins killed as father obtained birth certificates
USA’s long history of genocidal imperialism.
Why are you projecting what Russia is onto other countries?
10 Torture Sites in 1 Town: Russia Sowed Pain, Fear in Izium
Ukraine: Rape and torture by Russian forces continuing, rights experts report
Ukraine conflict: ‘Russian soldiers raped me and killed my husband’
Rape has become a weapon in Ukraine. Finding justice may be difficult
no country other than maybe Britain has killed even a tenth of civilians. ukraine looks like a peace summit compared to what us did to bangalesh, combodia, south america and even palestine today. trump today very much represents the systemic moral rot that america is. but everyone there is now crying because they are going to be mildly affected by the fasicsm they have forced across the world
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/genocide-us-cant-remember-bangladesh-cant-forget-180961490/
Empire has always been blind to justice, freedom, etc.
Have you poked your own eyes yet?
These people don’t deserve eyes
Its not exactly revolutionary action, him pardoning his son is no win for the working class
him pardoning his son is no win for the working class
Who cares?
Anyone who has bothered to do their homework knows the Democrat party votes in favor of the working class WAY more often than Republicans. Hell, a few weeks before the election Trump and Musk did a televised interview where they jerked each other off about how much they hate unions and worker rights. Then working Americans voted them into power.
Now stupid Americans are going to get the corruption they deserve.
This is whataboutism, I am for neither blue or red, I hope they both burn. The only group I care for is the working class hense I care about nepotism within the political class.
The only group I care for is the working class
Then I’m sure you’ve done your homework and found out that Democrats historically vote in favor of the working class WAY more than Republicans, so you should vote Democrat if you care about the working class.
Because I promise you, a 3rd party isn’t viable in the United States, so your options are Democrat or Republican.
Not that you may have that option anymore going forward.
I’m a revolutionary socialist. I give no fucks to what little bread crumbs the dems brush off of the table. We have seen “democratic” politics play out, the centrist shift to the right.
But then the Democrats will BECOME the barbarians. Do not stoop to the level of sloppy populism – behave honorably and it will pay off in the long-term.
behave honorably and it will pay off in the long-term.
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behave honorably and it will pay off in the long-term.
We found out in 2024 that is not true. Voters are perfectly willing to vote for the most dishonorable candidate ever to run for office.
2024 is not long term. This is not the last election.
Taking the “high road” WAS the Dems long term plan. It failed. Doesn’t work.
It failed in the short term. We still have the whole remainder of USA history (whatever that ends up being). Despite what parties will have you believe, there is a life outside of the run up to the election and inauguration. There is also a Democrat presence at lower levels, for example, in the state and county contexts. I would prefer it if the whole world doesn’t rush to emulate Trump in their approach to the world, as I don’t think it’s the best long term plan for our country.
Faith in promises made by presidents is at an all time low and I don’t think we need to do more to further degrade that.
Fuck that. Playing dirty in this instance does zilch to help you. Why the fuck would you support this? How does Hunter Biden being pardoned help you or anyone else at all? Democrats are okay to play dirty when it is done defending basic rights for Americans, not for the political elite. Hunter is a grifter and he should absolutely face the consequences.
Why the fuck would you support this?
Because I’m tired of watching the Dems be held to a higher standard and taking the high road and honoring decorum and losing to a corrupt as fuck party of traitors.
Americans voted for corruption, so now they’re going to get it. Hopefully we get so fucking corrupt it actually makes us act like adults and vote more intelligently. Doubt it. We’re probably done for. But that’s our own fault.
Again, I’m perfectly fine with Democrats playing dirty when it helps the country as a whole. They want to gerrymander to hell to get something like socialized health insurance passed or something like ranked choice voting? Have at it. This is just nepotism. It doesn’t help you. It doesn’t help the Democratic Party. Nobody should be for this.
This is just nepotism. It doesn’t help you.
Nepotism is standard in America. We don’t care enough to actually do anything about it. In fact, we just voted to make it worse. I’m aware it doesn’t help me. It helps a guy who was a solid president who doesn’t want his son to be in prison for non-violent crimes while a criminal president who openly stated he will target his political opponents sits in the Oval Office. Can’t blame him in the least. Especially since most presidents pardon people who support them at the end of their term. It’s normal in America.
If we didn’t like it, we could vote more intelligently. But we don’t, and we won’t.
30% of eligible voters elected Trump, Democrats are allowed now to do what they want. Okie-dokie.
Continue on with your “they took the high road” loss analysis. It’s been said so many times I don’t think anyone even knows what the “high road” is. If you could explain it to me I might be better informed.
I mean, I agreed already that this action isn’t a win for voters. I am just sick of people crying about Biden doing this selfish thing for his family when Republicans are literally supporting white supremacy. There’s too much money support for the white supremacy movement, the left it needs own comparable financing against this.
How does this combat that? Does this bring in funding to do that? It absolutely does not.
