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I rewatched that Invincible episode the day before making this. My first thought was a beholder but a cyclops was a much better fit.
It’s fine to not care about what other people think and engage with the other person in a discussion. Even then, there can still be value in our arguments for the other people on this website with us. Our discourse can be useful.
As far this Onion video, we should engage in the relentless pursuit of the truth regardless of other people’s opinions real or imagined. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be grateful when someone is arguing for equality.
The conversations we are having on this public comment section are of course public. This can be observed by the fact that people jump in at different points of the comment chains in this comment section. Not to mention the fact we are having a meta discussion about the discussions. Also, most instances have some form of voting in their default views. So the audience is real.
What I find to be the common misconception is that because we are having this discussion over an artificial medium that somehow cheapens the discourse. However, this is a real discussion with real people about a topic that affects real people.
A primary goal should be to educate people. There’s no reason why the discussion can’t be entertaining. Usually this shouldn’t be at anyone’s expense, however we shouldn’t tolerate intolerant people. The far-right have seen the internet as a serious means of communication and are using it as a way to spread their ideology to devastating effect. Making fun of these intolerant people is a necessary step to preventing the spread of disinformation. But making the argument on its own is great too.
I don’t have the time or the energy to reply to every incorrect take or argument I see on the internet. And I typically read more than I write. That’s probably true of most internet users. So I appreciate it when I see other people pushing back against intolerant ideologies. Especially in this case, where the bad faith was so explicitly apparent. No one person could fight back against the right-wing infosphere by themselves. Defeating intolerant ideologies and educating people is a group effort.
Is a rat’s tail like a monkey’s paw?
Also, I lost track of your username. I thought I was arguing with another person in this chain. So anyway, thanks again! =)
That’s prudish. It’s the 21st century. This is a beach in America and it’s fine.
https://i.insider.com/5773e4c8dd089531228b4d84?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp
I want equality for all. You have to work so hard to try to fight that, it’s silly.
What you’re ranting about is what men do all the time all over the place, because it’s no big deal. It eventually will be that way for everyone.
However something tells me that it’s not a problem and most people do not care if it wasn’t ever even voted on.
No, actually people want equality. We’ve been fighting for it for centuries. We’ll be fighting for it as long as there are people who want to take it away.
Loud minority screams “I wanna go naked on the streets”
Men go topless all the time. The fact you need to bend over backwards here is an obvious demonstration that you are not arguing in good faith. @splendoruranium@infosec.pub, do you see what I mean?
“oh no I have to put my shirt on before going out, this is fascism”
More of the same. Really stunning to watch a person tie themselves into knots for the sake of inequality. Some people really do hate women.
Go to the beach and there go topless all you want. That’s what I do anyway. We collectively agreed that this is where it is fine to do so. Or on your property, you can walk even completely naked all you want.
Women should be allowed to go topless wherever men can. See how it’s trivial to describe when the goal is equality. It’s inequality that adds needless complexity.
Radical gender centrist
This really says it all. The word you’re looking for is misogynist.
You being horny isn’t a justification treat women as second class citizens. Grow up.
Because some people are not arguing in good faith. Sometimes it’s best to call them out on what they’re doing so people learn to recognize the behavior.
This comment section is not the first time this topic has been thought about and discussed.
Some of these users are unironically repeating rape cultural word for word and in this case with the add on of “I’m just asking questions”. Thanks for sticking it to them. =)
It is sexist because you’re treating them differently based on arbitrary cultural standards. Why are you pretending made up social constructs are real? We shouldn’t be consistently sexist. We should want equality for all.
Saying ‘women shouldn’t go around topless’ isn’t allowing society to function. It’s sexist and demonizes women’s bodies in a way that promotes violence against women. Deconstruct your society or don’t, but don’t be surprised when you end up in a death camp because you thought it was fine to give second class person status to half your population.
This meme was based on a lot of things, but this article definitely covers what the owner class has considered. They are expecting us to die.
They are definitely the first two billionaires that come to mind.
1·1 month agoI play casually so this probably won’t even be an issue for me. But it gives me an excuse to get the new cards, without there needing to be power creep. Hopefully this will prevent text bloat like we see in Magic the Gathering.
The sapphire steel allies matter cards looks interesting to build around. =)
It is, but it’s coming from an otherwise socialist perspective.
In this most recent discussion, this is what it boiled down to.
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25671921
Oh I know it’ll take a lot more than just circumstances, but the circumstances have to be right for most of them to even be interested in getting educated on the subject.
They are arguing that the reason we aren’t experiencing a socialist revolution now is that people’s material conditions are insufficiently bad and that things need to get worse. It’s troubling because I think it leads otherwise leftist people to sit on their hands and wait when there is a need for anti-neoliberal propaganda.
Which I would like to try to take a crack at next. I was hoping to motivate others to do the same with this post. Looks like I could use some work though, this meme seems to be have been so-so at best. It inspired some discussion at least.
People will start having to make that mental decision.
While that’s true that doesn’t necessarily mean a person is a fascist if they keep their head down. What I mean is that neoliberals are more susceptible to becoming fascists who terrorize other people.
Although, I think there are a lot of people who have consumed a decent chunk of anti-fascist propaganda. These people are effectively awkwardly stuck as neoliberals. They’ve rejected fascism, but they still can’t bring themselves to really be socialists or even progressives.
Getting these people to reject neoliberalism is crucial to building grassroots movements to build a political revolution. We need people to rise up against the systems that have enabled this fascist takeover. As long as a majority of people have neoliberal ideas in their heads, they’re unlikely to do that. People need to learn that systemic change and wealth redistribution are essential. Otherwise we are going to be victims to a larger fascist movement later and/or climate change even if we somehow defeat this fascist dictatorship.
So not only is neoliberalism how we got here, as neoliberalism leads to fascism, but rejecting neoliberalism is going to be crucial to getting rid of the current fascist regime. It’s not enough to only be against fascism, we also need to be for something too. And neoliberalism is getting in the way of being for something for a lot of people.
Knowing that there are alternatives should, in theory, be enough for the purpose of getting their foot in the door to learn more. People do need to learn more, but the issue is that most people seem to have little interest in doing so despite knowing there is an alternative they could learn more about.
And for many socialism simply means either “European style capitalism with free healthcare” or “USSR under Stalin”.
This is the roadblock that stops people from going further and it’s not an accident. People have been subjected to neoliberal propaganda that pushes an owner class first economic model. There are underlying assumptions people have that the extractive economic institution of capitalism is the only model that can work. When, in the US, we have known since monopolies starting forming at the start of the 20th century that capitalism is a zero-sum winner take all system that isn’t sustainable. That’s why we regulate anti-competitive practices to try to prolong the inevitable. edit: typo
Poking at a person’s insecurities can be one of the best ways to deal with bigotry and hatred. So very much exhaust.