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Is there a lemmy community similar to this one that allows discussion posts? This community only allows link sharing.
Just with a bit of estimation of the remaining 12% of votes uncounted, Trump is going to beat his 2020 vote record by a couple million, 81 million on the high end and maybe closer to 77 million on the low end. Unlikely, but possible he beats the 2020 all time record set by Biden. Definitely beats his 2020 numbers.
Kamala recently pulled ahead of Hillary’s 65 million and Obama’s 66 million, she’s gonna end up around 71-74 million.
Kamala lost the Popular Vote. In fact she won some blue states by smaller margins then she lost some ‘swing’ states. Nevada might not even be tight enough to qualify as a swing state this election(needs to be 5% or less, Trump’s currently winning by 5.2% meaning it wasn’t a swing state), meanwhile Minnesota was won by 3, New Jersey by 4, New Hampshire by 4 and a half, and Maine might be lost we’ll see, but those 4 were all swing states as the margin was less than 5%. New Mexico and Virginia came very close(and New Mexico would have been under 5 without RFK Jr dragging Trump down a point).
This also suggests the Electoral College no longer favors Republicans, and is somewhere between neutral and actually favoring Democrats again. 2028 a tight election with a Democrat win could see them lose the PV and win the EC.
I had a ton of 2004 vibes from the start and it looks like that was correct. He is coming back to serve a second term, and YES, this time he won the national electiiion
This also suggests the Electoral College no longer favors Republicans, and is somewhere between neutral and actually favoring Democrats again.
I don’t agree with this. Republican majority States are still over represented. They just happened to also win the popular vote this time. The scenario of Democrats winning popular vote but not electoral is still more likely than it happening to Republicans
Personally, it kinda feels like a weight’s been lifted. Now I can let go of the last shred of pretense of this country being anything other than a fat fucking joke.
I’m now aware that the US contains 71 million fascists, racists, sexist, bigots, or a combination of all 4.
I’m with you there. I mean don’t get me wrong, I sure do feel depressed and also morbidly curious/looking forward to the upcoming schadenfreude, but yeah just accepting that America is really a racist country and it’s not going to change.
Just going to bide my time here since I’m too old to move even with a tech job and encourage my kid to go to college abroad.
I’m SO ready for Vic Berger to make YouTube great again
I was born just before Reagan was elected. Growing up, I got the mostly mistaken impression that America had some of its shit sorted from Vietnam, WWII, and all that 20th century turmoil. A period of stability. Upward trending society. Reagan undid a lot of that progress.
I’ve been watching this country die, slowly, for 45 years. This has been such a weird time to be alive. Fighting over scraps we volunteered to subsist on instead of overthrowing corrupt and cruel systems. We had periods we thought we were recovering. We had hope. I feel today like there isn’t any left. Another four years of this, and it will be worse.
He struck a fatal blow. He used the tools of fear and rhetoric to do it. The weakness was there, the vulnerability. And here is the next evolution of American fear. We’re a country voluntarily destroying itself out of fear of our imminent destruction. We had everything, and we gave it away.
We heard the call of the void, and we’ve answered.
We didnt give it away, we actively cast it into an active volcano
This will open up doors for his sons to run for president. I don’t know when but Eric trump will run and so will the other snot nose brat baron. Who knows when but it’ll happen
Run? They won’t need to campaign.
I told you so
- Stein voters.
It feels like the Lion King but Scar killed Simba as well.
We are so fucked. The repercussions of this election are going to effect everything from SCOTUS to county courts. This is so utterly disgusting. People looked at the shit spewing from his mouth and said, “Yes, represent me.”
Fuck this country.
Fuckimg depressing that probably 1/3rd of people didn’t vote. And of the 2/3 of those that did - most of them voted Trump.
So basically a minimum of 1/3 but more likely more than 1/2 of Americans wanted Trump and the Republican Party to represent them. They voted for:
- Russian dominion over Ukraine and further aggression on its neighbours
- Chinese genocides and aggression on its neighbours
- mass deportation of vulnerable and productive members of society (he calls them immigrants)
- men controlling women’s health and avoidable deaths
- oppression of LGBTQ+
- racism
- fraud
- corruption
Why? Because they believe that Trump is going to make them richer.
Nice people.
Putting all that aside, because most people don’t delve into details, he is a damn idiot! People used to laugh and ostracize people like Trump not so long ago. Why is this suddenly okay to [long list of non-political things he said and did]?
And all of the accounts that I’ve been tagging here for the past several months doing everything they fucking could to get Trump elected? Nowhere to be seen. What a shock.
Lemmy’s universe is fairly small potatoes for an election this big
Pretty sure you can just reuse your Reddit bot to spam here. If you’re already running one it’s not much effort to expand.
There’s no bots posing as real users. If there were any unlabeled bots, the developers and admins of literally every instance would love to know.
The 80 year cycle reset is upon us.
So, I always thought it was just a mean bully thing to say, but, as a group, Americans really are dumber than a bag of rocks.
I used to be the guy who said things like: you can’t just call a whole country stupid. Bush was bad, but mistakes happen. Okay, bush was bad, what makes you think his son is better? Got it, so you learned that he’s not better. You voted a second time? Okay that’s kinda stupid if you ask me. And now? What are you even supposed to say anymore? A bag of rocks can at least be hucked at some american
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
It’s not just Americans buddy. Open your eyes.
Lots of countries are stupid, but not that many have >50% of their population be that incredibly stupid. Usually it’s closer to 20-30%. America takes the gold though.
The Philippines elected the son of the most brutal dictator in their history. So im really not sure about that.
Look at Italy, Hungary, Slovakia, UK and Germany’s AFD. Hate is potent political fuel that’s burning hotter and hotter.
Must be nice to live in a world where you think USA is the only country to elect a moron. I’m Canadian as well. Just wait.
Yep. This cluster fuck all but guaranteed our political dick-pendulum will swing right very shortly.
It’s going to swing right all across the world. This win solidifies the U.S. as a fascist nation. All the money and resources that have gone into achieving that won’t disappear, if anything there’ll be more money available now.
This is the opening bell on a very dark age.
It’s been swinging right since about 2012, worldwide. This is a symptom of that disease. The world has been falling more and more to right wing authoritarian fear mongering and xenophobia. Across Europe, the South Pacific, South America, Africa. Literally every continent has been swinging to the right and flirting with that doomsday trend of falling to fascist takeovers every, like, 80 years or so. And it’s back. Like some fucking cancer you just can’t beat.
50% of voters isn’t 50% of the population. It’s closer to 20-25%
We deserve to die. We really do. I wish my race was dead I wish my gender was dead. It’s over
Apparently 51% of us or more are far dumber than a bag of rocks.
The real question is “if they are so stupid why did you lose?” Why didn’t your superior intellect lead you to victory?
Because stupid people don’t listen to logic or reasoning.
Good point. The stupids aligned with the evils on this one.
They are also american. The lead brain doesn’t stop at the colour of their team
We have lost, democracy has lost, today the American people have lost to tyranny. All the Americans can do now is collect themselves and reorganize, the next four years will be the toughest years in American history and its effects will ripple across the world.
the next four years
We really may have just voted for the last time. I’ll be thrilled if this only sucks for the next 4 years.
Really though we’re fucked for the next 30-40 years based on the Supreme Court alone. Expecting Roberts to retire while Trump can name a younger, more bat-shit replacement. Possibly the same for Thomas and Alito.
I’m expecting 2-3 retirements as well to be replaced by true believer Christian fascists in their 30s. This Supreme Court has been terrible but if this comes to pass we will truly be fucked until the end of the Republic.
It won’t be the last vote. Elections will just become more and more of a sham as Republicans restore white “democracy”. But the show won’t end, and it’ll be hard to say where we reached the point of no return. IMHO it could have been as early as Nixon.
today the American people have lost to tyranny
Welcomed tyranny*
That’s if it’s only 4 years…
The Supreme Court will be changed for a generation. I’ll never see a moderate court again in my lifetime. Alito and Thomas will step down and Trump will appoint 40 year old partisans to the bench. The damage he is about to inflict on our institutions the next 2 years will be irreparable.
If it helps you out-- GCC, late-stage capitalism, non-concern about microplastics, growing ocean acidification, the ongoing destruction upon coral reefs and natural fish populations, etc, were already kicking our arses, and now THIS.
c/collapse
r/collapseDudes, we’re friggen’ done after this last, pathetic attempt of an election.
Must have been a good game, though, eh!? :D
Honestly, we were done after Gore.
2000 was the last time period we could have done something that wouldn’t result in unimaginable pain to deal with climate change.
Too many tipping points have already been crossed.
It should be noted here for younger people that the election was illegally stolen by the Republicans in Bush versus Gore. If that one thing hadn’t happened I believe we would be looking at a very different world today.
Now watch the effects ripple through the world. Now that a guy like him can be elected, politicians around the world will take note and use the same playbook. And it will probably work.
We already felt it in France with the 2016 US election, I can’t imagine what the next decade will be like…
I see everyone pointing the finger at the wrong place. We have two corrupt privately run parties. First past the Post literally puts us here. Places like Sweden won’t have this problem because they allow their politics to represent nuance rather than two corporate parties.
I fear we’ve lost the chance to move to something better than FPTP and WTA.
We’re getting it in Canada soon. Or in what’s left of Canada once fascist USA has finished with us. We have the most extreme, reactionary, hateful Conservative leader ever, who openly panders to fascists, and he’s some 20 points ahead of anyone else in the polls. My worst fear was him coming to power with Trump over the border, but that looks like what’s going to happen. I do not understand people.
As a Canadian who has watched our politics slowly try to mimic America’s, I’m terrfieid. As it is our conservative provincial premier is ripping out bike lanes on city streets that have apartments being built right now that offers significantly more bike parking than car parking. Its backwards progress, a signifcant amount of the lanes were just built and now we gotta spend more money ripping them out because some fat conservative feels offended he is too unfit to cycle.
I’m fearful for my trans family and friends. Poilievre and Trump is a terrible combination. We are going to need real grassroots political organizing to protect each other and civil disobedience in large numbers to slow the fascists in their persecution and environmental damage. Of course this will be harder than ever but we need to stop waiting for electoral politics to fix things and take action together.
We are going to need real grassroots political organizing to protect each other and civil disobedience in large numbers to slow the fascists in their persecution and environmental damage. Of course this will be harder than ever but we need to stop waiting for electoral politics to fix things and take action together.
The fact that I am not the only one thinking this is encouraging. The fact that I had to scroll this far to see such a correct comment is very discouraging and worrisome.
First it was ontario is open for business, under pierre all of Canada will be “open for business”. They would sell every ounce of Canadian fresh water to just to watch a dozen people get rich.
So as someone from Hungary, we’ve been speedrunning this shit, and the way out seems to be that you need to absolutely publicly destroy the current Democratic party, and get something, anything, that promises positive change as an alternative to fascism. I’m not saying necessarily third party, but at least an internal revolution in the DNC with the new people publicly disclaiming the current people and the status quo.
Trust me, you don’t want 15 years of Trump like we had.
Germany will follow suit and we will get a conservative hardliner (and sexist boomer) with CDU’s Merz who once voted to keep rape in a marriage legal. He will pave the way for the real fascists from the AfD, who will feel a lot more emboldened now.
Watch as Australia votes in a corrupt copper next year for prime minister. Making the same bullshit promises.
Qld just shit the bed with the state election, that was bad enough, federal will be a shitshow :(
Canada has one lined up too.
I swear to god if bolsonaro is elected again here I’m gonna blackout drink for the first time in a decade
Calling it now, the mail in ballot counting will call it for Harris, and we’re gonna have another Jan. 6
Unfortunately, I think the spread is too far for her to have a chance. And if she tries to pull some legal loophole/technicality to prevent him from getting certified as prez, that’ll cause another Jan 6 for sure.
Won’t even matter, if it gets called for Harris at this point the election is murky enough that the Supreme Court can just hand Trump the presidency.
I hope you are correct. About Kamala. Not the rest.
I wish there was a way to know how much longer tha mail ins will take
IIRC trying to remember for the last 20 years, but those take a couple to a few weeks, and the challenges in court will take possibly till Jan.
America is a country full of stupid people.
51% of voters at least.
To be fair, isn’t everywhere? Yeah I get it we have some real morons but the uneducated fucks that voted for Trump don’t define us
Sorry, we live in a democracy and the majority rules.
What point do you think you’re making?
That we are defined by them because we are a democracy, and pretending America is somehow good doesn’t change that.
I didn’t pretend America is good. It’s quite clearly a piece of shit. I won’t humor anymore snide bullshit because my point was very self evident
Yes, and I disagree with it. The uneducated fucks who voted for Trump most certainly define us.
