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    Well my US public school system spent 75% of history class and 25% of English class on the Holocaust so I’m actually feeling really well prepared for this section, the trick is not to go along with genocide if your country is supporting it

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      LOL the “vote 3rd party” crowd really is trying their adorable damnedest aren’t they

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        8 yearold me would not have been able to grasp your position and 30 yearold me can’t either. Guess I’m too soft to compromise on ethnic cleansing.

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          3rd party has literally zero chance of winning. a vote for 3rd party is a vote going straight into the trash. 3rd party voters are not making a “statement.” they are not “morally superior,” nor is anyone applauding them for their “principles.” in fact, the only people that actually like 3rd party voters are republicans, because they’re actively helping trump win. everyone else is either laughing at you or just shaking their head

          also spoiler alert: trump will be orders of magnitude worse for palestine than ANYONE on this planet. yes, including netanyoohoo.

          you do you pal

          edit: i want to add: i voted for jill stein in 2016 because trump was a pathetic joke even then, but i just didn’t much care for hillary. just like i don’t much care for kamala

          NEVER. AGAIN.

          EVER.

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            I didn’t mention third parties and will not be casting a vote for president at all as I believe the problem is regime wide. That said, 3rd parties aren’t the problem the problem is democrats promised they would vote democrat no matter what and they took your word for it and decided to ignore public opinion and international law and international courts and basic human decency and now you’re complicit in a genocide just like the german people were.

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                It really does feel like the people sitting on their hands are trying to be morally superior while the rest of us accept the dirty work and are doing what we can to not further enable genocide.

                A vote isn’t a person’s whole voice. Let’s take the small victory of “not a fascist” then protest the shit out of the continued US involvement with Israel. Political action doesn’t just end with the election.

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              More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

              “We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

              “Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

              The letter describes an “awful situation where only flawed choices are available.”

              In our view, it is crystal clear that allowing the fascist Donald Trump to become President again would be the worst possible outcome for the Palestinian people. A Trump win would be an extreme danger to Muslims in our country, all immigrants, and the American pro-Palestine movement,” the letter states.

              https://www.yahoo.com/news/extreme-danger-harris-earns-stunning-143857259.html?guccounter=1

              i guess literal palestinians are “complicit” too?

              GTFO bro. take your self-righteous “i’m not voting” bullshit and shove it back up your ass where it came from

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          Not to worry, if the GOP gets their way that’s the end goal in the US anyway

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          I don’t understand it, either. I’ve seen comics and comments about how not voting for a genocidal candidate might get trans people killed, while children are actively being blown apart and incinerated in hospital beds, currently, as we type.

          I don’t like that trans people have to live in fear. I would like them to be as comfortable in their communities as the whitest, straightest, most christian dude in Texas is in his community.

          Any argument for or against the current candidates that is laced with hyperbolic slippery slopes cannot overcome the actual murdering of an entire people that’s unfolding in front of us all.

          I cannot buy into any argument that plays on the lesser of two evils, as we would still have to choose an evil.

          Let’s be clear that this isn’t an easy world we live in, but I refuse to support a literal ethnic purge.

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            …dude you’re writing off a genocide against me with “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” shit

            You are actively advocating for people to be complicit in not preventing another genocide.

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              Has it happened? Are trans actively being bombed in their hospital beds? Are they being piled in the streets and run over with bulldozers, dead and alive?

              To claim that trans are the victims of genocide is disingenuous and minimizes the experience of the people currently experiencing genocide.

              I am not discounting the potential threat against trans in america, but Palestinians are being shot, burned, and bombed right now. Entire families, gone.

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      US public school system spent 75% of history class and 25% of English class on the Holocaust

      How many of your classmates are Zionists? By comparison, how many are enthusiastic about First Nations civil liberties or reparations for Slavery?

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    It was supposed to be Space travel. Flying cars. Automatons and lasers. Deep sea robots that could explore any shipwreck and show us the animals of the deep. Nanobots and cancer-cures.

    We were promised the world would be ready for millenials to get into every field and make the differences they wanted to be, and so much more, as Dragons hoarded all the money and chopped the legs out from every ladder.

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      I always think about this when this topic comes up. 9/11 happens and Bush says ‘Drill baby drill’.

      What if we had a president that was like ‘hey maybe we should get over our addiction to fossil fuels and sever this toxic relationship with the middle east?’ All the lives and money and time wasted on wars, and the destabilization it lead to in the USA and Europe which pulled people even further rightward toward this autocratic environmental suicide pact.

      I wonder how different things would be if 1% of the people in Florida got off their couch and voted Gore.

      EDIT I get y’all and agree but the point is that if Gore had won but just a bit more they wouldn’t have been able to stop the count and send it to SCOTUS

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      And we (millennials) went off and got our educations, and returned to the “real” world just to run into the brick wall that is Boomers- who’ve refused to retire, and who refuse to improve anything unless it benefits themselves, but are perfectly willing to gaslight everyone within earshot because they’re incapable of admitting they’re out of their element.

      And now 20 years have gone by. Same fucking Boomers still hoarding and refusing to step off the top rungs of Corporate ladders.

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        Baby boom generation ended in 1964. Retirement age for full social security benefits for people born between 1960-1964 is 67 years. Someone born in 1960 has slightly more than two years until full retirement age. Most boomers were/are not c-suite executives. Most boomers will rely heavily on social security benefits.
        Unfathomable why so many boomers are enthralled by the candidate/party that want to destroy social security. Something something, no war but class war.

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    The problem with knowing any amount of history is that any time anything happens you’re just like:

    ‘Oh. This again’.

    It’s somehow both tedious and horrifying.

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      Is there an analog for an extinction level event of our own creation and which persisted because of a variety of absolutely crawl reasons even after denial became the domain of idiots?

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        Have you ever heard of the great oxidation event? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event

        Though I doubt the anaerobic bacteria was aware enough to be able to deny what was happening in the first place.

        Every time I read about how we’re finding micro plastics in places we thought they couldn’t reach (blood-brain barrier recently) I think of the GOE.

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    Well we got rich people spending billions of dollars to go to space for a bit. Unfortunately they come back too…

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    The great beast is dying, sick with it’s own poison. In it’s final moments, it dies as it lived, devouring everything.

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      Honestly space travel is finally getting good again. Give it ten years or so and either the US or China will have people on the moon.

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        India is putting in effort too, it’s not great but once they figure out the kinks they’re gonna catch up.

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      Dismantling of.

      American democracy has been under attack since the Civil Rights Era. We’re in the latest stage of “If we can’t run things, nobody can!” bigot counter-revolution.

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      Americans don’t understand how absolutely owned they are. I’m not saying China is a wonderland but there are other ways of doing things. Capitalism has gone crazy I’m the US and the population doesn’t understand whats happening.

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    Our universe is disappointing. Space travel would suck as much as you think. Like living in a can? Because that’s what the laws of physics and our biology say will be space travel for us. We can’t get places quickly, and there’s no materials that can make a comfortable living space for any number of humans for that long.

    Our Star Trek future is not coming. It’s going to be like The Expanse, but worse.

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    the frizz: let’s see where the magic school Bus took us today!

    or when!

    oh, dear…

    keesha furiously whispering to ralphie.

    ralphie: a WHAT auction?