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    Well my US public school system spent 75% of history class and 25% of English class on the Holocaust so I’m actually feeling really well prepared for this section, the trick is not to go along with genocide if your country is supporting it

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      LOL the “vote 3rd party” crowd really is trying their adorable damnedest aren’t they

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        8 yearold me would not have been able to grasp your position and 30 yearold me can’t either. Guess I’m too soft to compromise on ethnic cleansing.

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          3rd party has literally zero chance of winning. a vote for 3rd party is a vote going straight into the trash. 3rd party voters are not making a “statement.” they are not “morally superior,” nor is anyone applauding them for their “principles.” in fact, the only people that actually like 3rd party voters are republicans, because they’re actively helping trump win. everyone else is either laughing at you or just shaking their head

          also spoiler alert: trump will be orders of magnitude worse for palestine than ANYONE on this planet. yes, including netanyoohoo.

          you do you pal

          edit: i want to add: i voted for jill stein in 2016 because trump was a pathetic joke even then, but i just didn’t much care for hillary. just like i don’t much care for kamala

          NEVER. AGAIN.

          EVER.

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            I didn’t mention third parties and will not be casting a vote for president at all as I believe the problem is regime wide. That said, 3rd parties aren’t the problem the problem is democrats promised they would vote democrat no matter what and they took your word for it and decided to ignore public opinion and international law and international courts and basic human decency and now you’re complicit in a genocide just like the german people were.

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                It really does feel like the people sitting on their hands are trying to be morally superior while the rest of us accept the dirty work and are doing what we can to not further enable genocide.

                A vote isn’t a person’s whole voice. Let’s take the small victory of “not a fascist” then protest the shit out of the continued US involvement with Israel. Political action doesn’t just end with the election.

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              More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

              “We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

              “Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

              The letter describes an “awful situation where only flawed choices are available.”

              In our view, it is crystal clear that allowing the fascist Donald Trump to become President again would be the worst possible outcome for the Palestinian people. A Trump win would be an extreme danger to Muslims in our country, all immigrants, and the American pro-Palestine movement,” the letter states.

              https://www.yahoo.com/news/extreme-danger-harris-earns-stunning-143857259.html?guccounter=1

              i guess literal palestinians are “complicit” too?

              GTFO bro. take your self-righteous “i’m not voting” bullshit and shove it back up your ass where it came from

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          Not to worry, if the GOP gets their way that’s the end goal in the US anyway

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          I don’t understand it, either. I’ve seen comics and comments about how not voting for a genocidal candidate might get trans people killed, while children are actively being blown apart and incinerated in hospital beds, currently, as we type.

          I don’t like that trans people have to live in fear. I would like them to be as comfortable in their communities as the whitest, straightest, most christian dude in Texas is in his community.

          Any argument for or against the current candidates that is laced with hyperbolic slippery slopes cannot overcome the actual murdering of an entire people that’s unfolding in front of us all.

          I cannot buy into any argument that plays on the lesser of two evils, as we would still have to choose an evil.

          Let’s be clear that this isn’t an easy world we live in, but I refuse to support a literal ethnic purge.

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            …dude you’re writing off a genocide against me with “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” shit

            You are actively advocating for people to be complicit in not preventing another genocide.

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              Has it happened? Are trans actively being bombed in their hospital beds? Are they being piled in the streets and run over with bulldozers, dead and alive?

              To claim that trans are the victims of genocide is disingenuous and minimizes the experience of the people currently experiencing genocide.

              I am not discounting the potential threat against trans in america, but Palestinians are being shot, burned, and bombed right now. Entire families, gone.

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      US public school system spent 75% of history class and 25% of English class on the Holocaust

      How many of your classmates are Zionists? By comparison, how many are enthusiastic about First Nations civil liberties or reparations for Slavery?