• Rob Bos@lemmy.ca
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    11 hours ago

    We are in no way at risk of dying out from negative population growth. If we start to go down below a few million, then maybe let’s talk.

    World population is still increasing, and is set to maybe stabilize in a couple decades. Fingers crossed. If we could (gently, without mass starvation) reduce the population down to a more sustainable level, that is an unmitigatedly good thing.

    What might kill us is infertility from pollution or disease, but this won’t do it.

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      11 hours ago

      gently, without mass starvation

      Even more gently if you want to make sure there’s enough younger people to care for the elderly

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        A fuckton of people work bullshit jobs that should not exist. We could run the same society with much, much less people working.

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      The real issue is that we have a rapidly aging workforce and there’s not enough young people to replace them. With the average age of parents raising, the gap is getting larger. In the 50s it was 16 workers for every 1 retired. The 70s, 5:1. That number is now almost 2:1. This is bad. Very bad.

      Higher bar for jobs. Lower wage for entry level. Later retiring age. Higher need for migrant and seasonal workers.

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        10 hours ago

        Aw, crapitalism will break because line cannot always go up.

        Cry me a fucking river. Humanity is a cancer, and we need to be about half our current population. Yeah, we’re not gonna like it when we drop that population. Our kids, my daughter, are going to have it fucking tough. But if we want to survive long term… We gotta stop.

    • UNY0N@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      I totally agree with you. I just hate all of these “don’t have kids” arguments from liberal people. It’s not a viable solution, because the fascists and the idiots are gong to have kids. We need at least some sane people to continue on.

      But the is all emotional and subjective, I’ll admit that. I’m not really thinking about this topic with a clear head anymore.