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Abravnel’s pictures show two bearded men wearing sunglasses and three other men wearing face coverings on board the boat. One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company. Lindell, who is a well-known Trump supporter, recently hit back against claims that his product pricing was inadvertently linked to neo-Nazi propaganda.
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Newsweek was unable to independently verify at the time of publication whether the people on the boat were from the antifa movement.
Oh, fuck off. I’m unable to independently verify whether the people on the boat were Newsweek employees.
They love Neo-Nazis. What they don’t love is when they get too loud or conspicuous, because it costs them PR points (sometimes). This is the only reason the right wing will ever so much as give lip service to thinking these people might be anything less than “very fine people”.
They wrote: “I was in the parade today. Just like on J6 [January 6], those are not Trump supporters. They were antifa scumbag imposters and were treated accordingly as you’ll see in the video.” Antifa is a term for far-left groups that resist facists and neo-Nazis.
LOL, they are still going with this BS for J6? Why would dementia donnie pardon a bunch of “antifa”, then?
Antifa is a term for far-left groups
Antifa is a term for the monsters under conservatives’ beds.
A vote for Trump is a vote for Nazis. Always has been but now they’re showing faces so you know its true.
One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company.
Ok, I was mad until I read this and then I was full of chuckles. What a dumbass stunt and I love that this former-and-soon-to-return crackhead was inadvertently brought into the conversation.
Also, show your faces, nazi fucks. If you’re so proud, why are you hiding?
If you’re so proud
Do you really expect consistent thinking from a bunch of neo-Nazis who named themselves after a song from Disney’s Aladdin?
Also, show your faces, nazi fucks. If you’re so proud, why are you hiding?
Well the article said that Antifa is a group that resists “facists” [sic] so maybe they’re looking to avoid Antifa by not being face-ists.
We need more AI used to out these types, as well as AI used to identify and round up any remaining uncaught thugs from J6.
Strange how they don’t have an issue with masks now.
I like how the top 2 comments imply that all the trump supports are nazi supporters, despite the article explicitly stating that the boat was a known anti-semitic person who has tried to stir shit up in europe as well. There is even a video of trump supporters splashing the boat to try to get them out of the parade: https://twitter.com/i/status/1845629364525846602
I think I’m going to stop interacting with political feeds until after the election. It seems obvious that party politics are in full swing, and everyone is trying to demonize the other by making strawman arguments. Please, just vote logically and for the rights and justifications that are at stake, not because you think your fellow americans that disagree with you are anti-semitic.
Dementia donnie has said he doesn’t care about the Constitution and that he wants to be a dictator on day one. He’s made many, many statements that are clearly fascist.
If people still support him after that, what do you call those people?
From my conversations with Trump supporters, they typically acknowledge Trump is a bad choice and don’t like the way he acts, talks, etc. They typically view what Trump says as an exaggeration, saying things like “he won’t actually xyz”.
Universally, people I know that support Trump in real life, support him either because they are Christian, and feel that the Democratic party is against their core values. Or, they feel some kind of hatred against leftists, because of propoganda they have been fed.
That’s the way I see reality. There are extremists on both sides, but I refuse to stop believing that Trumpists aren’t voting with what they believe is best for America, even if I personally disagree with them.
I really dislike these discussions that paint the other side of a political battle as something insane like Nazi’s, that just isn’t real, and it makes me so sad to see people either believing it, or feeding the cycle by adding to the joke.
They are still supporting him. If they say “he won’t really do X”, they are just lying to others and to themselves - I’m sure that deep down, they know full well he means it and they are okay with it.
There are NOT extremists on both sides in the same degree and intensity that the right has extremists. Watch “Against All Enemies” and let me know what the leftist equivalent is. The right has people that want to plunge this country into a literal, shooting, civil war. The left has people that want universal healthcare, UBI, cops that respect everyone, clean air and clean water, retirement with dignity, jobs with dignity and so on. These are not the same thing.
I know these people closely. I don’t think they expect him to go full on dictator. Maybe thats true for some other Trumpists, majority not true for the ones I know.
Talking points you brought up seem to be a strawman. For Christians, a big reason they vote for Trump is because the Republican party has taken a hard stance on not allowing abortion. For many, many Christians, that is as serious a topic, as facism is on left-wing discussion forums.
And again, their voting ideology is not so clear cut. They don’t support Trump because they believe he is perfect in every category, rather, he checks the one box (or rather, his party) that is extremely controversial and important to them.
Also yeah, right-wing extremists are more common then left-wing. So there is a concern there. I stand by what I said though, that the majority of Trump voters do not support extremist action.
Props to the guy that soaked them. Even fascists have some standards.
Not because they disagree with them, but because they accused them of being Antifa plants to make them look bad.
At least they agree that swastikas make them look bad. Baby steps.
Tbf, I’m getting Poe’s Law vibes from it myself.
It is amazing how open they show their colors even before the election. Maybe, just maybe some potential voters read this as a warning sign.
Unfortunately this is more likely to cement his existing support
Florida? Swastikas?… wait- yeah, that tracks.
Reminder
The cons, just showing their ass. They have always been like this, it’s just the likes of dementia donnie give them a permission structure to be more open about it.
the boat has to have a registration usually, why not use that?
How is it that Trump followers are pro Nazis and pro Israel at the same time? Or is it because Israel is starting to follow Nazis’ footsteps?
The cynical support for Israel is something that runs very, very deep with the xtian nationalists. There have been various documentaries that touch on this, but one of the more recent ones I’ve seen (and remember the name of) is: “Praying for Armageddon”.
It’s a place created as a home for jews pretty much by antisemites, with the main idea being “we’re okay with jews but only if they’re not in our country”.
There’s a lot of fascinating history about the creation of Israel by antisemites that you can find, but the gist is that zionism and antisemitism often go hand in hand, and it seems this has not really changed.
Some of it is rooted in xtian zionism, and it’s not because they have any special regard for Jews other than as pawns for their dopey eschatological notions. They just think the Jews have to be in Israel to fulfill prophecies that involve a magical Jewish carpenter coming back (and killing most of the Jews, by the way).
Nazis love the idea of a single state for each group of people. They love it as a destination for deportations fulfilling their short-term bigoted plans.
Of course their long-term bigoted plans are invasion, stealing resources, and mass murder.
So at the end of the day it’s Dominionism amd The Book of Revalations. It’s the idea that once the Jews take control of the holy land the apocalyptic prophesies in the Book of Revelations will be set into motion and God will come down from heaven and separate the 144,000 good holy people from the sinners who didn’t belive in God and take them into heaven, probably rapture style.
Being Pro Israel and a conservative isn’t really about caring about the history of prejudice the Jewish people have faced throughout much of history, it’s about using the Jewish people as a pawn in fulfilling a ~2000 year old prophesy.
I’m encouraged that this is becoming more well known
Watch Praying for Armageddon; I’ve seen other docs that cover this as well, but this is a fairly recent one.
Yuuuup.
I find it equal parts infuriating and hilarious… These motherfuckers want to pull some “Jesus hates this one trick!” type shit to trick their lord into appearing sooner than would “naturally” happen and they don’t think the all knowing all powerful God wouldn’t realize they had millions of people killed purposely for this? Their meddling and enabling is what would have that region in the state of war “required” for Armageddon…
Like what?
Fun fact: Kelsey Grammar (Frasier) is a proud Trump supporter and Christian who also publicly supported Roseanne Barr after she was fired from her show’s reboot for tweeting that one of Obama’s advisers was what happened when the “Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby”.
I believe in their view, it’s presented as ‘god can’t come back until conditions are right, don’t keep him waiting’
The answer to why god needs their help when he’s all powerful is some mumbling about tests of faith and the unknowable nature of the divine
It’s something I’ve noticed is pretty consistent across a lot of the very evangelical Protestant denominations, they have so many contradictions that just asking some veryxbasic questions just shorts out and they have to rely on thought terminating cliches. At least the less insane Protestant denominations and the Catholic Church try to maintain some level of actively grapple with the conflicting concepts. The catholic church for all its problems does have theologians throughout its history attempting to make more logical sense of the beliefs, even if many of those beliefs are somewhat nonsensical.
And literally multiple times in the gospels Jesus literally says none of us will know the day or the hour of his return. And so many people take the Book of Revalations at face value rather than understanding it as more of an encoded hit piece against most likely Emperor Nero who very much ramped up persecution against the early Christians. Basically saying, this Nero guy is a piece of shit but don’t lose faith.
They’re different subgroups
there is that, but I think also many republicans have a weird cognitive dissonance where they’re antisemitic in general, but still very pro-israel/zionist because of fundamental christianity, and/or they are even more islamaphobic than antisemitic.
Honestly I could see some of them being stupid enough to think Isreal is majority Christian. Like they’d be “ethnically Jewish” but Christian religion.
I think that they are pro-Israel because they want all the American Jews to move there to rid them of “the problem” of American Jews. Think of them like national segregationists - they don’t mind Jewish people existing as long as they are “over there”. And it’s also in Israel’s interest to project themselves as the only place in the world where Jews can be safe.
It has to do with what they believe is predicted in Revelations, which is to say in order to bring about the Second coming they need a mountain of dead Jews. Best way to ensure that outcome is to vehemently support Israel as their genocidal wars spiral out of control. That’s why Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, it’s symbolic to the Christian Nationalists
The actual mid-20th century German Nazis wanted to create an Israel, although they intended on it being in a different place. It was basically their way to “justify” deporting every Jew
Taking care of one enemy first and then the other. Belief in religious stuff is fungible, so it doesn’t count for shit
Edit and white people who support Nazism are in for a rude awakening when their own group starts defining “good white” vs “bad white”. Ask the Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, etc.
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FL 2205 TD. I wonder who that’s registered to?
Tonal Drump
I mean I have a tiny bit of respect for Beardy McNazi in the back there, not afraid to show his facist face. A tiny bit. Maybe an iota.
