Those close to Donald Trump fear the former president “may have legit PTSD” from the assassination attempt at a Pennsylvania rally last month.

That’s according to a Vanity Fair report published Wednesday that claimed those in Trump’s inner circle have noticed that he’s become fixated on a seven-second clip that shows the moment he nearly lost his life.

“He’s been watching that seven-second clip of how close he was to getting shot right in the head—over and over and over again,” said a Republican close to the campaign, reported Vanity Fair.

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    That’s not PTSD. He’s a narcissist and that was the last moment where he was the center of national attention and it looked like there was no way he could lose. Then Biden stepped down.

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      Legit kinda hilarious how an actual assassination attempt completely got drown out by “new competition lol”

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          Just shows that empathy is reciprocative. He never showed empathy towards another human being, so now nobody feels it for him.

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            I remember people in various places talking/writing about how they were in public places when it was being televised on cable news, and almost no one was really paying that close of attention.

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              I won’t say that couldn’t have happened, but that shit was everywhere around me for like… 2 days

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                I don’t have a whole lot of redhats in my every day activities, thankfully. But at one point, I thought they’d all be slapping bumper stickers and other stupid regalia all over their possessions and their bodies and I’d see it nearly everywhere.

                I did see one parent that had their very young child wearing some shirt based on his photo-op after the shooting, I will say. That’s some grade-A parenting right there, egad.

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      Idk, he has a history of obsession with being killed. Supposedly his fast food habits were formed because he could be anonymous, he’d send someone to get the food so he doesn’t have to worry about being poisoned.

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      I think I’d be traumatized by being an inch from a bullet to my brain. I also think Trump is mainlining toxic traits into his persona like “men don’t cry” and “mental health is for pussies” so I wouldn’t ever expect him to actually publicly admit to having feelings about it or getting support.

      Come to think of it, him not bringing up the shooting in every sentence out of his mouth for martyrdom points, seems really out of character. All we got subjected to was a comically large, stark white bandage at the GOP convention. The lack of milking it for sympathy ad nauseum makes me think he really is affected by it.

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    Too bad for him that he will refuse to see a therapist or psychiatrist because he thinks it’s a sign of weakness.

    I’d certainly be fucked up if it had happened to me.

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      It’s so so sad that he’s bound for a nervous breakdown and potentially Harris slamming her hand on the podium with the right force and angle could potentially be a trigger for it.

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        Not unprecedented. Even doing so intentionally isn’t new. Just look at Admiral James Stockdale in the 1992 election. Dude was a decorated Vietnam vet and former POW, but before a debate, someone thought it’d be a great idea to jingle some keys. Apparently, that was something his captors did to mess with him in Vietnam. Cue the PTSD flashback, and suddenly Stockdale’s looking disoriented on stage. So yeah, a well-placed podium slam? Could totally set off a meltdown.

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      Well…would you have spent the last 8 years of your life spreading views of hate and racism?

      Because I think thats what got him shot at.

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        I think that’s irrelevant. Nearly getting your brains blown out will fuck with your head regardless of anybody’s judgement of whether you deserved it.

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        It sounded like, from the shooter’s web searches, that if it had been Biden holding a rally hear the shooter’s house, Biden would have been shot at. It was less anything about Trump and more that the shooter wanted to shoot someone famous/important, from what I’ve seen.

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      He might get counseling from some evangelical pastor though, and come out of it even more terrible than he already is.

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    That’s not PTSD. That’s a fixation, maybe an epiphany on his mortality. There’s a whole range of symptoms he’d need to be displaying at least some of. Calling that PTSD is problematic on so many levels.

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      I can’t stand the guy, but PTSD can manifest in several different ways. I’m willing to bet obsessing over the event is one of those ways

      Edit: it could also just be “post traumatic stress” without it being a disorder. I’m not a professional and I don’t know trump personally, but I would like to warn against telling people this isn’t what PTSD looks like because someone might not seek treatment due to misunderstanding their affliction

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        It is but what other symptoms does he have? And will he have them months from now? It’s absolutely normal to obsess over a near death experience in the short term.

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            It is. Like the other symptoms it’s a problem if it persists or gets in the way of other things.

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        More qualified than some random campaign staffer. For now let’s just say I came by this name honestly.

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      Ain’t no way. They are putting this in the media because no one cares about someone shooting at him and they are desperate to explain why he’s only don’t small indoor rally’s now. They don’t want people to notice he has no supporters anymore.

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      I would think if it were PTSD he would have a hard time speaking to a crowd again but that is definitely not the case.

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        He is having trouble speaking in front of crowds. Not because of that, mind you. But because the crowds aren’t showing up.

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      I hope it wakes him up in a cold sweat every night until the day his soul leaves his greasy orange carcass

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    Look, Donnie, PTSD sucks. Unlike your cult, those of us working against you do want you to seek treatment. Like legitimately. We want you to get better.

    But also like fuck off while you’re doing that.

    Thaaanks.

    Signed,

    Everyone Else

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      God… Imagine having to be his therapist… Anyone who’s able to make even a little progress with him would deserve a Nobel prize

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        Lol, therapy (and just the act of starting therapy) requires the ability to self-reflect and be self-critical.

        He’s not capable of either.

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    Is it PTSD or is he fixated on the last moment he thought he’d win before Biden dropped out and everything fell apart for him?

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    We all know what else in this vid. The cinematographic rise of Trump from under security agents with a fist. He is nutting over how great he is at that moment.

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        Yes, hopefully in the section on how he, possibly the worst president in U.S. history, tried to destroy American democracy.

        Just because that picture looks “strong” doesn’t mean he’ll be remembered that way.

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          Well, we can hope, but unless we federally standardize a curriculum… Let’s just say some states differ on what they teach the Civil War was about.

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        Yeah, but, like, he didn’t do anything for such a legacy, he happened into his own Triumph of the Will moment by a coincidence of so much mistakes. There’s though no wonder why he’s seen as a messiah by his cultists and he sees it as a personal gift from the god, the recognition he didn’t have in his family as per biographies.

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        It’s already been wrapped around a cyber truck. It can’t get any more important than that.

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      Yeah, who knows what’s going on in that head of his. In a moment when most people would be in momentary shock unable to process what just happened quickly enough, Trump knew immediately that he needed his shoes. Then stood triumphantly with blood running down his face and a dead body behind him.

      Edit: when the transcript of the secret service communications was released i was shocked that Trump would be so concerned about his shoes. I immediately assumed, set up, he’s trying to move on to the next part of the act in full costume.

      Now after posting this and thinking about it more, I can see someone, in that moment, being disoriented, noticing they’re bare footed, and focus on that. I still know that Trump is a pos.

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    If this was anyone but Trump, I’d probably feel bad for him.

    However, since it’s Donnie, all I can say is that I like Presidential candidates who don’t get shot.

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    Watching a clip of a firefighter getting murdered over and over again.

    Dude is more worried about the shrapnel cut to his ear.

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        I agree It would…

        Reality is more like… Someone else died.

        Crowd went nuts. Ear hurt.

        Secret service rushes you off stage.

        Secret service tells you what happened.


        Never actually experienced an actual threat.

        Was not presented with fight or flight.

        He just… basically heard about it and walked away with a cut.

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          I mean, he was present, fully. He recognized the moment and his positional within it to create one of the most iconic presidential images of all time.

          So I dont know if I really agree with your framing.

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      firefighter

      Nazi peon doesn’t become special because of his job or because he took a bullet intended for Nazi leader. Nothing of value was lost, except the opportunity to take out a larger pile of trash.

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        I’m trying hard to understand your point of view… It’s easy to be angry.

        The problem I see is that the way you feel about the “peon” is probably the same way trump feels about him too. Trump feels everyone else as insignificant.

        Unfortunately this means you and trump have very much in common.

        Let that sink in…

        Now… If that previous comment has not completely closed your mind…

        Let’s try to be better humans together.

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          I am not a Trump supporter or sympathizer. In fact, I hate that I have to qualify this at all, but nuance is dead on the internet.

          You are speaking with a voice of logic. Trump should not have been shot at, nor should he have been killed. He was targeted unlawfully.

          No person should die at the hands of another. We can’t judge each other effectively or objectively.

          I may wish for trauma, pain, or more on someone, but I don’t earnestly believe anybody deserves it nor should we be the arbiters of death. Especially if it’s because of ideological differences.

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            Trump would commonly pull a scam with his property development business where the company would hire a bunch of local, small and medium, businesses in order to do most of the work. Then, in the days leading to the project being finished, would put forth a large amount of false complaints of things they did wrong. He would then refuse to pay, and sue. He would hold them up in court, and bankrupt them, if they didn’t just drop it, and walk away, which would often bankrupt them anyway. He did this for decades. He destroyed hundreds, if not thousands, of small businesses this way. That is to say, he destroyed those people’s lives. He destroyed their families. There is a long list of contractors who killed themselves in the fall-out, left in the wake of his fraudulent business practices.

            A man once slipped and fell in some event Trump was having. The guy’s head split open, and he was dying. Trump says he was mad that the blood was ruining his beautiful floor. He is a rapist, a pedophile, a con man. He definitely has bought any violence coming to him. Fuck him.

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              Yes, fuck him.

              But what are you advocating for? We all know he’s trash. So is our justice system. Are you angry with him? Or are you angry that our justice system is rigged in a way that lets him get away with this shit behavior repeatedly?

              We would not know his deplorable name if it wasn’t for the him getting away with shitty behavior and flaunting that he didn’t get punished. He literally got convicted before our own eyes for something his own lawyer went to prison for, but remains largely unaffected.

              THAT makes me angry and feel cheated. Do I hate him? Yes. Do I wish terrible things on him? Absolutely. Should I be his judge? Probably not.

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                I am advocating for not giving a shit when someone murders him. Someone should have done that a long time ago. The kid who tried was 20. He has time to be reformed. Time for people to figure out what is wrong, and give him therapy, make him work on himself. And it would all be at a net gain for humanity. We know, for fact, he has done these things. We know Trump can’t be reformed. It will be a huge suck on resources to imprison him. Just shoot him, toss his body in a dumpster, and move forward.

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                  I basically said this. I know this is difficult because we’re on the internet, but I asked some nuanced questions that require a little more than key slapping. I’m genuinely curious if they matter at all.

                  For me, it’s our financial system that created this piece of shit and our judicial system that failed to keep him in check. He’s working and acting the way he does because he had a broken, corrupt family and was never taught moral code or an ethical framework. Yet our electoral system put him into power despite him not getting the majority. Our corporate media keeps airing him for the views. Our digital and print media keep covering him for the clicks…

                  WE are to blame because we the people cannot unfuck this country.

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          Unfortunately this means you and trump have very much in common.

          …because we both recognize that one of his cultist pawns is a cultist pawn? Do I really need to articulate the distinction that the pawn holds no value to me because he advocates for the destruction of my rights, neighbors, and country; vs him not holding any value to Trump because he’s not Trump?

          I’m not going to shed any tears over the loss of evil - the world became a slightly better place when that man died.

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    It was a lesson and he learned all the wrong things.

    I hope it tears him up inside and he suffers as much as he’s hurt others.

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    Add it to the list of dangerous qualities for the President of the United States to have. Cool stuff.

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    I care about as much as he cares of all the people, especially kids, killed in mass shootings.

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    PTSD is serious and difficult to live with and I feel sorry for anyone who has it. Not really something to joke about.

    I would be freaked out too if I almost got assassinated. He is a human being.

    I don’t want him to be president. But that doesn’t change my basic humanity for the victim of a crime.

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          I just don’t believe in well-wishing to actively malicious literal Nazi fucks. Guess that’s radical.

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            Don’t get me wrong, I think he should go straight to hell with his buddy Putin. I just think that wishing somebody PTSD is structurally similar to wishing somebody to experience sexual violence in prison, i.e. a vindictiveness that somehow belittles the struggles of PTSD.

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                Hell is not real and no innocent goes there. I guess if we knew for sure that it existed, and didn’t trust the administrators of hell to follow proper protocols, it would be similar? Like, you could say “don’t wish people hell, my aunt was innocently sent there and boiled for eternity!”. Though I’m willing to concede that hell, being an abstract concept beyond the arbitration of human morality, is a neat way to be malicious about bad people.

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              Buddy there is no hell. This man will get away with everything he’s done, and even if he’s put in a prison cell for the rest of his life, it will not be nearly long enough.

              There is no magic justice that occurs after shitty people die. The rest of the world just has to live with the consequences of their awful actions.

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            Some people never get a chance to learn and grow into anything better. There are literal white supremacists who reformed and some fight for anti-racism now. People should be given a chance to become more than their bad decisions, if they show they’re actively trying to better themselves.

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      The amount of trauma this man has created for others, it makes me want Hell to be real. I hope this incident completely unravels him.

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      nah, no sympathy. most people with ptsd probably didn’t fuck around like there are no consequences for your actions. this fucker deserves every bad thing that is coming to him, including finding out that he is hated and people want him dead.

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      Nah, fuck him. I’m just worried it’ll make him more erratic.

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      I would be freaked out too if I almost got assassinated. He is a human being.

      Donald Dump is an especially self absorbed human being so he almost surely freaked out even more than a normal person would.