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    i feel bad for all the people i know who got harry potter tattoos 15 years ago

    edit: it’s really fucking weird how people are trying to invalidate my criticism of the bigoted bigot who loves bigotry, j.k. rowling

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      Why? I have a HP tattoo and don’t regret it. The fandom has gone past the author at this point. She’s a hateful removed but that doesn’t mean that we can’t still love the world and characters she created. We’ve made it our own.

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        Except she still gets royalties and uses those to donate to political organizations, so you know

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            I’m happy for you being able to pretend these things are separate from the weird cringe asshole who created it. personally, hp shit just makes me think bigot

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              Better apply that energy to other things, too.

              Like the rolling stones? You’re a pedophile.

              Enjoy Top Gun? You support scientology.

              Ever played any Blizzard game? You support sexual harassment.

              Ever ate anything related to Nestle? You support slavery.

              There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. You better get used to it.

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                Pretty much everything you listed is a convenience that can fairly easily be cut out of your life. Except for Nestlé, because keeping tracking of what brands are under any given food companies umbrella is not an easy task and the lack of competition means that oftentimes there are simply no good alternatives.

                There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but that doesn’t mean that I’m under any obligation to respect somebody who continues to give money to an author who has openly said that they consider buying their merchandise as explicit support of their politics and donates a portion of their proceeds to extremist political groups with ties to far-right Christian groups in the US. The same as I’m not obligated to respect Republicans who say that they’re not racist, homophobic, etc, but still continue to vote for extremist candidates year after year who openly run on bigoted policies.

                It’s one thing to have no alternatives to buy or to simply not know of an issue with a company, it’s an entirely different thing to continue to buy something from a company because it would be a minor inconvenience to avoid them.

                Nobody is saying that we should go without things that make us happy, but there are plenty of other books to read, movies to watch, and games to play that don’t support the FART.

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                  Enjoying Harry Potter doesn’t mean they have to engage with JK Rowling.

                  It can mean talking about it with fans, getting a tattoo, cosplaying, or just rereading a book.

                  If you see a harry potter tattoo and the first thing you think is “bigot”, youre just a prejudiced dickface.

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                Not really a part of this conversation but I just wanted to say that I literally do subscribe to all these statements lol. I try to reduce harm where I can, and not playing a game made by Blizzard is so easy.

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                i don’t like the rolling stones or any of that other shit, but you make a good point. literally everything we do is immoral.

                the thing is, i’m still going to shit on rowling and harry potter. YOU better get used to it

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                  Lol, then thanks for spreading hatred in an unjust system?

                  That’s super cool of you.

                  Youre using Lemmy right now, a system created by an unabashed tankie.

                  Congrats on the genocide support you fascist.

                  /s

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                  You’ll find most are particularly unconcerned about your fervent desire to shout into the Internet void. We’re not going to get used to it because we really don’t care.

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                It is pretty unpleasant to be watching old media and be slapped in the face with overt homophobia and transphobia treated as a joke, thanks for your concern.

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            AARGH MATEY!!!🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

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          Last time I checked it was a little more complicated than that. I think the Wizarding World is now owned by WB, whereas Harry Potter is where Rowling gets royalties. That’s where the distinction between the two lives, which is why there are so many things being spun up lately.

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            I don’t know how involved she still is but I know back in 2010ish when universal was opening the wizarding world in Orlando they had to run all the design desicisions through Rowling. The park ended up changing the color of the name tags for just the workers in that area of the park because she thought the white on them was to bright.

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        You mean the world where slaves like to be slaves and trying to release them is wrong, apartheid is right because the other sentient people look different, the bankers are antisemitic stereotypes and the main character becomes a literal cop enforcing all this?

        It’s really a magical world /s

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          If they’re a reader of fanfiction that is typically one of the major changes to the story that’s done. Fanfiction has effectively rewritten the entire series to be more palatable at this point. Bonus points that you can read it without giving Rowling any money too.

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            If the fanbase needs to rewrite the entire series to be “more palatable” that might indicate something about the series itself.

            Might be time for people to just move on to a different series.

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              That’s a tall order with how most people act. Disney vibes anyone? There were few things that could capture a whole generation’s imagination so strongly, and people want to bond over it. My stance is taking what you like and making new things is how we get new series’s, and fanfic has it’s place in that.

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          None of that is correct.

          • The slave thing was about brainwashing and exploitation, and how it’s wrong.
          • I don’t know what you’re referring to with the apartheid thing.
          • The goblins are antisemitic because they have big noses? That’s been a staple of goblin anatomy since they were created.
          • The main character becomes an anti dark sorcerer guy, like counterterrorism, so nothing to do with enforcing all that gubbins anyway.

          Oh, and thanks for the ‘/s’. You know, otherwise I really would’ve thought you were giving it a compliment after a full paragraph of invective.

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        Have you seen the two hour video by Shaun on the books? I highly recommend it for a look back on the books and the issues that we couldn’t have picked up on as kids but are pretty obvious on a reread.

        They’re not as great as we remember them to be (if I have to read the phrase “mannish hands” or another word about a 16 year old girls “square jawline” again I think I might vomit) and if the best parts of the world are the bits created in spite of the author, why continue to associate it with her work. Obviously, it’s easier said than done when you’re talking about an entire community, but there’s plenty of other worlds created by nicer authors.

        The best thing to come out of the series was the cast from the movies being as cool as they are today, but any time I think of the world, all I can think of is the token diversity characters named things like Shacklebolt and Cho Chang (almost, but not quite Ching Chong), the young Irish boy obsessed with whiskey and explosives, and the defense of slavery that’s identical to arguments from actual slave owners in the US.

        Plus, there’s the whole thing with the hook-nosed bankers that totally aren’t Jewish stereotypes. You know who created a fantasy race based on Jews that doesn’t feel like an offensive stereotype? Tolkien. Tolkien’s dwarves are based on Jewish stereotypes, but don’t come off that way at all because of how they’re presented in the world.

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          While I agree with you in most things (especially the jewish stereotype, yikes) I must call you on the defense of slavery. I always got the impression we weren’t supposed to agree with the magic world view of house elves. I think the only point of Hermione going over the top was showing how something so hideous had become so normalized and accepted by good people in the magic world. Hermione being an outsider sees how fucked up it is and calls it.

          Things are not black white. As fucked up as JK Rowling is, it doesn’t mean everything she says is bad. She tried to make some good points…others sucked ass. It is what it is.

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            One of the only freed house elves we hear about literally drinks herself to death because she can’t ‘handle’ freedom, which was a defense of slavery back in the day.

            Also, even more eerily, Joanne has tried to retcon Hermione as black. When you then read her as the only character to try and free the house elves, something everyone makes fun of her for, it becomes EXTREMELY unsettling. Even if she weren’t black, it’s upsetting, and not because we’re meant to see how problematic the Wizarding World is. May I remind you, Harry also thinks she’s being crazy for trying to free them, and he’s just as much of an outsider as she is. When all characters from all walks of life in a work believe the same thing like this, it feels very much like it’s the author who believes it and is putting it into the work.

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              The other freed house elve Dobby is portrayed as a good meaning, but over the top eccentric, quite literally wearing a dozen hats in book 4.

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            To me, the Hermione thing had always felt like JK was trying to make her out to be a “blue hair/pronouns” feminist who shouldn’t be taken seriously and in the process she accidentally walked face first into making the same argument that actual slave owners made to justify themselves. I don’t think she intentionally meant to justify slavery, but she ended up there trying to criticize Hermione.

            This is why I recommend Shaun’s video to people, as it tries to take an impartial look at the books. He points out how it feels like JK’s point of view shifts as the books go on, and she goes from criticizing the system to defending it as the money started rolling in and she began to benefit from that same system. But there are some constants with her open bigotry now even as far back as the first book, some of which I’ve already mentioned, like the stereotypical characters (which could easily come from growing up in a sheltered environment, but she claims to deeply research a culture before creating a character) and applying masculine traits as a negative to female characters. Whether or not she supports slavery we can only guess at as she’s never made a statement on the subject, and I can’t imagine that she does, but her bigotry can be seen to not be a recent development, just a more deeply entrenched or worsening belief.

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        At my last job, the only who was in his 50s or older and was nice to the trans employee had HP tattoos. He saw JK being a terf (we taught him the word) as her (referring to Rowling) own problem to solve.

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      It’s a great example of why you shouldn’t get a tattoo of something that is intellectual property. It’s way too easy for that shit to get associated with bigots/hatred/etc down the line.

      Another example: I’d love to eventually get a Star Trek tattoo. I can see the suits at CBS eventually burning the IP to the ground, sure. But they probably wouldn’t turn anything Star Trek related into a hate symbol. But what happens if it turns out that neo-nazis start using ferengi imagery to spread anti-semetic hate? You can’t guarantee your favorite skin art keeps the ethical values or meaning over the entirety of your life.

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      I know several “ally” and one trans HP fan. They all just “separate the art of the artist” as cope. They’re also a bunch of adult children and I don’t really respect their opinions on media.

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      Edit response: yeah it is very weird. Imagine getting a tattoo of Hitler’s (obvious exaggeration) paintings, and then have people come along to say they shouldn’t feel bad because “the fandom has gone past the author”.

      I don’t think the people with tattoos should feel responsible, or bad about themselves in any way, but I would look at them sideways if they then were saying actively that there’s no part of them that’s sad or disappointed about getting it.

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      Harry Potter tattoos have a higher regret rate than gender affirming surgeries.

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      The fuck is this dense comment? Rowling being a cunt doesn’t change anything for Harry Potter. Jesus fucking Christ.

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    This is such a low-effort shitpost. “Person I don’t like probably thinks even worse thing than I’ve heard her say”

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      I think what the person on Twitter wrote is in response to Rowling going off on a rant about cisgender female boxer, Imane Khelif (from Algeria), in the Olympics, and insisting that she’s a man. Rowling’s tweet here. There’s an article here that outlines the response from the Olympics, and the other female boxer, Italian boxer Angela Carini, who lost to Imane Khelif.

      Carini, however, said to reporters after the match: “I wish her to carry on until the end and that she can be happy … I am not here to judge or pass judgment. If an athlete is this way, and in that sense it’s not right or it is right, it’s not up to me to decide.”

      And as that article also notes:

      It’s also worth noting that it is illegal to be transgender in Algeria – so to peddle the information that the country would send a trans athlete to compete in the Olympics would frankly be laughable if it wasn’t so maddening.

      Edit: Forgot to link to the article.

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        And yet, at no point did she say or even infer “only white people can be women” nor bring race into the issue. The OP disagreeing with Rowling on transgender issues is absolutely fine, but to smear her by innuendo to associate her with also being racist is going too far.

        It is also an example of the straw-man nonsense deployed by right wing extremists all the time; it’s disturbing to see the same tactics being deployed by the left or centre on twitter and then more disturbing to see it being upvoted and even justified here.

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          Seeing someone deny the womanhood of two women who aren’t white and calling that racist only seems like a smear if you aren’t familiar with the long history of associating femininity with whiteness, and more specifically associating black women with masculinity. Black girls and women are consistently viewed as more masculine and less innocent than white girls and women.

          Waiting for JKR to say “I’m doing a racism” before calling things she’s said racist essentially means never calling her racist.

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      I’d argue that TERF-ism, especially JKR’s brand of it, has both classist and racist elements ingrained within it

      The whole ideology is based around gatekeeping ‘womanhood’ to a single shared demographic experience, denying feminism to those outside of it

      There are ways in which trans women have had differing experiences of femininity from cis women. But the same is true of black women of white women, etc

      It might be explicitly anti-trans; but it’s implicitly anti-in-group

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    Much like my mother, she should have no access to phones or internet after a bottle of wine.

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      I don’t know whether she is actually racist herself or not, but she is definitely willing to promote racists like Christopher Rufo and Matt Walsh so long as she sees them as being on her side regarding her hatred of trans people. On that basis I don’t think it much matters what she actually believes, what’s she doing is spreading racism

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        How long before we start hearing her spout that old canard about “well, as much as I disagree with Nazis, at least they’re willing to speak honestly about the threat of <insert libelled minority group here>”? I believe this naziwashing manner of argumentation is called the Sam Harris Code-Injection Exploit.

        Or my personal favourite: “Given how much society and the media have lied about trans people being human beings, I’ve now started to question everything else I’ve been told, such as the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines and the truth about the Holocaust”.

        I think Graham Linehan has actually said that about vaccines and climate change, that he now questions them because most of society doesn’t agree with his vicious bigotry about trans people. JKR isn’t far behind him.

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    If people could stop centering their entire lives around a mediocre piece of entertainment and letting themselves being spoonfed art in the form of capitalist “Franchises”, maybe people like Rowling wouldnt get this much undeserved attention.

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      Yes. Decry the fact she has a platform. By commenting on a post about her… Thus amplifying her reach and her platform.

      Or perhaps join the rest of us and call out her shitty views any time she is mentioned helping to ensure her platform is at least also used to amplify dissenting views.

      Or just not comment if all you’re trying to do is be super edgy or whatever.

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        It feels like people make loving or hating this literally a core part of their personality, and is a good model of the enshittification of the internet. The more one side pushes, the further the other side pushes back. A new species has emerged from the mingling of internet trolls and keyboard warriors. I’m going to call it the internet troglodyte. Constantly inflamatory and escalating conflict, the trog does not troll for the lulz, but they have such strong opinions they must share them everywhere every chance they have, often harming the cause they purport while turning online spaces into echo chambers.

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        Maybe I wasn’t clear, I don’t think calling out Rowling’s shitty views is part of the problem. What I was trying to point at was that fandoms are just a means of marketing and people are too uncritical about how capitalism interferes with art. People are getting steered towards “investing” time and attention into something that isn’t really worth it, and the author, unable to follow up the success because she really isn’t that talented, instead clamps on the attention by putting out edgy political statements.

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    It really feels like people hate on her way more than they should. Can someone explain to me where it’s all coming from? I read some of her trans statements and honestly they weren’t that bad. If feels too me like on a scale of 1 to 10, the hate should be at a 3, but it always seems to be at an 8 or 9. WTF?

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      This sarcasm? She literally call us “The Penised” and claims we’re stealing all the womanhood.

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        Really? That’s worth wishing she was dead? Who the fuck cares? Again, on a scale of 1-10, I think that rates a 2.

        If you actually read her posts (the ones I read in 5 min of internet searching before I asked this question), her message is basically (paraphrasing) “I support trans people’s rights to live as they want, but I value womanhood and take pride in my womanhood. As such, I want trans people to live as they want, but I want to keep the idea of womanhood separate because I value it as a space for women.” I’m assuming she said something much worse somewhere else??? … but that’s really a fucking lame thing to base all this hate on. Really, there has to be something more, right? Right?

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          “I support trans people’s rights to live as they want, but I value womanhood and take pride in my womanhood. As such, I want trans people to live as they want, but I want to keep the idea of womanhood separate because I value it as a space for women.”

          If that was what she was saying it’d be fine. You would likely need to do a little more than 5 minutes of searching to understand what all the commotion is about but I might be able to provide some context that would help. If you actually want to read all of this.

          Let’s take the essay she wrote on her website.

          For people who don’t know: last December I tweeted my support for Maya Forstater, a tax specialist who’d lost her job for what were deemed ‘transphobic’ tweets. She took her case to an employment tribunal, asking the judge to rule on whether a philosophical belief that sex is determined by biology is protected in law. Judge Tayler ruled that it wasn’t.

          You can read that court case ruling and see examples of what comments Maya made, through tweets, slack, and otherwise. JK puts transphobic in quotes and words her comment in a way that is implying that she does not agree with that label. This example from the document is pretty on the nose though:

          I believe that it is impossible to change sex or to lose your sex. Girls grow up to be women. Boys grow up to be men. No change of clothes or hairstyle, no plastic surgery, no accident or illness, no course of hormones, no force of will or social conditioning, no declaration can turn a female person into a male, or a male person into a female.

          Then the essay says:

          Months later, I compounded my accidental ‘like’ crime by following Magdalen Berns on Twitter. Magdalen was an immensely brave young feminist and lesbian who was dying of an aggressive brain tumour. I followed her because I wanted to contact her directly, which I succeeded in doing. However, as Magdalen was a great believer in the importance of biological sex, and didn’t believe lesbians should be called bigots for not dating trans women with penises, dots were joined in the heads of twitter trans activists, and the level of social media abuse increased.

          Magdalen Berns wasn’t “a great believer in the importance of biological sex”, she was openly transphobic and compared it to blackface.

          So twice JK is defending clearly transphobic people and downplaying it to things like, oh they just tweeted something or just believed in biological sex (whatever that means) and were canceled by activists online.

          Then later in the essay she says:

          Most people probably aren’t aware – I certainly wasn’t, until I started researching this issue properly – that ten years ago, the majority of people wanting to transition to the opposite sex were male. That ratio has now reversed. The UK has experienced a 4400% increase in girls being referred for transitioning treatment. Autistic girls are hugely overrepresented in their numbers.

          That does happen when there’s an increase in awareness, access, and acceptance of something.

          The same phenomenon has been seen in the US. In 2018, American physician and researcher Lisa Littman set out to explore it. In an interview, she said:

          ‘Parents online were describing a very unusual pattern of transgender-identification where multiple friends and even entire friend groups became transgender-identified at the same time. I would have been remiss had I not considered social contagion and peer influences as potential factors.’

          Littman mentioned Tumblr, Reddit, Instagram and YouTube as contributing factors to Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, where she believes that in the realm of transgender identification ‘youth have created particularly insular echo chambers.’

          Her paper caused a furore. She was accused of bias and of spreading misinformation about transgender people, subjected to a tsunami of abuse and a concerted campaign to discredit both her and her work. The journal took the paper offline and re-reviewed it before republishing it. However, her career took a similar hit to that suffered by Maya Forstater. Lisa Littman had dared challenge one of the central tenets of trans activism, which is that a person’s gender identity is innate, like sexual orientation. Nobody, the activists insisted, could ever be persuaded into being trans.

          With this, JK is pushing the idea that trans people (especially teens) are confused, or are just following a trend, or being persuaded to be trans. Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is a made up term implying people wake up one day and decide to be trans, minimizing what is, for many trans people, years of hiding their identity from their family and friends. The study she’s mentioning from Lisa Littman did not involve trans people, and is actually only a survey of 256 parents of trans people. Here’s a bit from the paper:

          […] Most of the parents (80.9%) answered affirmatively that their child’s announcement of being transgender came “out of the blue without significant prior evidence of gender dysphoria.” Respondents were asked to pinpoint a time when their child seemed not at all gender dysphoric and to estimate the length of time between that point and their child’s announcement of a transgender-identity. Almost a third of respondents (32.4%) noted that their child did not seem gender dysphoric when they made their announcement and 26.0% said the length of time from not seeming gender dysphoric to announcing a transgender identity was between less than a week to three months. […]”

          So she’s basing this entire section of her essay on a survey of 256 parents from various groups online like the “Parents of transgender children” facebook group and making it seem like there’s a trend of teens, again, waking up one day and deciding to be trans. This “republishing” that JK mentions made corrections to the paper and included an apology from the editor. But, JK represents it as just outrage from activists online.

          Then she pulls out this classic:

          […] The more of their accounts of gender dysphoria I’ve read, with their insightful descriptions of anxiety, dissociation, eating disorders, self-harm and self-hatred, the more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have been huge. I struggled with severe OCD as a teenager. If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.

          No, you probably wouldn’t have tried to transition to escape womanhood. Being a Trans Man is not some vacation from the struggles of being a woman. She even acknowledges some of their struggles later.

          I want to be very clear here: I know transition will be a solution for some gender dysphoric people, I’m also aware through extensive research that studies have consistently shown that between 60–90% of gender dysphoric teens will grow out of their dysphoria

          I’m going to quote another site I read for this one:

          Some studies do show that prepubescent children showing signs of Gender Dysphoria will likely “grow out of it” (though these studies have had their methods, data and analysis called into question), they also show that if Gender Dysphoria persists into adolescence that “it is almost certainly permanent”.

          Then the meat and potatoes of this, natal women’s safety:

          So I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman — and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones — then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside. That is the simple truth.

          Trans women have been using women’s spaces for decades, this certificate process makes no difference. If this was going to be an issue it would’ve already been one by now. Instead she’s fearmongering this idea that Men will all of a sudden with no other effort just claim to be a woman and start sexually assaulting women. The truth is trans women face many of the same threats of sexual violence and in JKs world they would have to use the same facilities as men.

          This is, in part, why she’s receiving all of the hate. Death threats and all of that are over the top but that’s not an issue that’s specific to her, people suck. However, despite the polite way she words everything, she defends other transphobic people and is pushing to deny trans people rights and healthcare in the interest of Women’s safety using unfounded claims based on misinformation and bad data.

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          She said much worse, and even that statement is terrible because it translates to…

          “I support Transpeople as long as they agree not to exist, because that makes my womanhood inherently less valuable.”

          She has also likened us to rapists and abusers, claiming that we are only “pretending” to be women to attack the “real” women

          And I believe you were the first person to say anything about wanting her dead.

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            And I believe you were the first person to say anything about wanting her dead.

            Read the title of the thread you’re commenting in

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          Nope its just that. You for some reason seem to put it in the nicest light possible, but thats your perspective.

          I think its easy enough to show how she is trying to actually harm certain people, which is absurd to worry about for a writer but here we are.

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          It’s true, for every bra I own, ciswomen everywhere collectively own one bra less. For every estrogen pill I hope, testosterone starts to form in ciswomen… I actually kidnapped a TERF off the street and grafted my penis onto her in order to have my vaginoplasty!

          (I am being VERY sarcastic)

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      The main problem, as I see it, is not that her literal statements if made policy would be the most extreme in today’s overton window. The problem is that she’s made herself the face of transphobia by putting herself in the center of it. She’s taken her preexisting fame and used it to push her (admittedly not extreme) transphobia. When people say “name a transphobe,” they think of her – and this was her clear intention.

      Because she has fame and power, she probably does the most direct damage to trans people overall. More than Jordan Peterson, etc.

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        Thank you for being the only person who actually answered my question. I appreciate your response.

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          You’re welcome. I am disappointed by all the downvotes floating around. I feel like your question was sincere and my answer is the cleanest cut through the flak of all of these. A reminder to everyone: downvotes are not for disagreements.

          The remarks she makes have actual political sway, especially in the UK. She often talks of how “young women” will be permanently deformed by HRT and how we must stop this threat to womanhood. Well, they recently banned puberty blockers there, and I am sure that her influence had a real effect here. Politicians don’t just listen to other politicians.

          Something else that I could mention is that despite being only like 50% extreme in what she is saying, she has written a book featuring a transvestite serial killer. On it’s own, that wouldn’t be so bad – I mean, in fiction anyone is allowed to be a villain, not just cis straight white men – but when combined with everything she’s been doing with her anti-transgender activism, it’s kind of telling that she has some actual hatred, it’s not just polite logical arguments. It really makes you wonder what she isn’t saying.

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    Are we sure JK is a terf? Is it possible it’s actually Barty Crouch Jr., posting from her account? Has she been compulsively drinking from a flask in person?

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    We lost nice people during covid, others like op prevail. It’s not fair.

    Wishing someone dead, in public is always a dick move. Don’t you think, op?

    (unless we’re talking about Josef Mengele and those kind of proven assholes. Then it’s allright.)

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          There’s a lot of dog whistles in these TERF/fascist-lite spaces, but one of the early items JKR advocated for was sending trans women to men’s prisons. You should be able to look this up, it’s well known. Would you not agree that that is wishing harm and/or death on trans women?

          I’m sure there are plenty more dog whistles that have happened after that one that I’m not versed in, but hopefully that gives you a jumping off point in your fact checking. I’d recommend videos by Shaun, Jesse Gender, and ContraPoints if you are interested in more compilations and perspectives.

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            Used to work commissary in a local county jail (basically food delivery). There was a trans woman there that the county didn’t know how to deal with. She had fully transitioned, was extremely passable. The state doesn’t allow you to change your gender on your ID, so they stuck her in a men’s jail. Her first week there she was assaulted and spent 2 weeks in the infirmary, then they decided to put her in solitary confinement to keep her safe. Her choices were literally get beaten to death to go into solitary, something that’s considered literal torture in many parts of the world. She was there for petty shit, too, like possession of marijuana, iirc. Fuck transphobes, and fuck anyone advocating for women to be sent to men’s prisons.

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      If you think I’m going to feel bad for wishing a transphobic asshole with a large audience ill, the answer is I most certainly don’t.

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      Even for those extreme cases, it’s understandable to wish for that, but I’m not sure it’s healthy for the one wishing. Speaking only of people who don’t believe in the death penalty, and are breaking their moral code due to an extreme aversion, maybe it is healthy as it may be cathartic; maybe it is not as it may reinforce rumination, stressful feelings, etc. Maybe it is healthy as they can reach a slight feeling of justice or equilibrium again in the world; maybe it is not healthy because they’ll feel they themselves committed a moral transgression pushed by the atrocities of these people. I don’t know, maybe it’s different from person to person.