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    Do you guys remember back when Elon insisted he was a Free Speech Absolutist? How he wanted to ensure nobody was censored on Twitter? That shit just gets funnier every day.

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    If that’s an actual photo from today then I doubt he was grazed much because I skinned my knee biking the day before his rally. I’ve still got a giant scab there.

    Also Pete Souza isn’t just anyone. He’s a former director of the White House photo office.

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        Yes, my content was way up when I joined Twitter, before Musk. I deleted it and took the financial hit, don’t want customers from that user base now anyway

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        What!? Why? That’s worse. That amplifies it. The world needs less horrible hate.

        It also does nothing to stop the news outlets from sourcing twitter

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      At the end of the day incentives are incentives. All the engineers Elon fired when he took over did in fact build a site that’s really good for announcing things like news to the world, and it was really quite complex behind the scenes. And if someone wants to replicate that, it’s a lot of work with the added problem that unlike the original Twitter, they have to compete with Twitter in building a new network. Additionally, social media news just isn’t very profitable which is why Meta/Threads has discouraged news and politics. So unfortunately Twitter is really all there is, social media news now essentially has a strong built-in right wing bias for the foreseeable future.

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      I really hate when news articles embed tweets directly as a source, it’s blocked by Privacy Badger, so I only see an article full of holes. Why can’t they use screenshots?

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      When they don’t also deepthroat Netflix after they banned password sharing. All the optimistic people, me included, said “oh this will make a huge dent in Netflix what a stupid move.” But they read the room like a hawk.

      People swallowed the hook and signed up in huge numbers. https://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-worked-how-to-increase-subscription-streaming-2024-1

      The West has created the perfect neutered, obedient consumers who will drink whatever coolade they are given. Until we have enough people who are willing to challenge convenience and stop bowing at the altar of comfort, we will have no meaningful change.

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        The West has created the perfect neutered, obedient consumers who will drink whatever coolade they are given.

        Do you imply that this is specific to Western country?
        Because the number of things Chinese consumers just accept is astonishing. They have been using “pay with your face” payment method for a while, and people are just rolling with it. https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/Pay-with-your-face-100m-Chinese-switch-from-smartphones I think there’s a bigger percentage of privacy focused people in EU and NA than anywhere else.

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        coolade
        Kool-Aid

        Don’t blame me for this confusing bastardization of the English language, thank a guy from Nebraska literally 100 years ago.

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            Uhh no actually I think that was a knockoff competitor brand cause that said 1929 and I’m pretty sure it was a guy Named Perkins in the earlier 20s.

            I think that’s just something else. The original is Kool-aid

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              The expression is “drank the Kool-Aid”, but it should be Flavor-Aid, because that’s what the cultists actually drank while committing suicide. dying (not all committed suicide).

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                It wasn’t really a suicide thing. Maybe for some of them, it was. But they were forced to drink that flavour aid at gunpoint if they didn’t drink it willingly or manage to flee into the jungle. So it was more of a massacre than a mass suicide. Or a massacre plus a mass suicide, as I’m not sure what portion had to be forced.

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                  Sounds good. I haven’t read up on that any time recently so my memory was hazy. The main point I was trying to make was the Flavor-Aid vs Kool-Aid, though, which stands.

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                Yup… Yeah wow learn something new every day. Like cults don’t splurge for name brand even for ritual suicide.

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              I was talking about the mis-attribution of the brand name Kool-Aid in the phrase “drank the Kool-Aid” as a result of Jonestown… they actually drank Flavor Aid

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                Ohhhhh…

                Wow cheap even until the end that they bought Walmart generic.

                I mean why take the good stuff with you right?

                That’s hilarious though thanks for that correction I was definitely confused.

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      When other social medias also let’s artists post NSFW alongside regular users for maximum exposure.

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      When there is a good enough alternative to Facebook/Twitter/reddit/ticktok

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          Yet you’re here on Lemmy?

          That is a disingenuous argument. People lived just “fine” before just about everything. People use those services because they derive value from it.

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      They have. But when you’re starting with hundreds of millions of users, it’s a slow bleed.

      There’s also not a lot of great alternatives. Threads is all ads. Rumble is just more MAGA shit. Mastodon/Lemmy is too fractured and lacks sufficient infrastructure as a global platform. BlueSky doesn’t have a critical mass of users yet.

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    Hang on, this guy the AP seriously took a picture where there is no injury to his ear? What was all the blood then? This one needs independent corroboration.

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        In addition, a competent plastic surgeon would likely make it look like it had never happened. I hope he goes to jail for the crimes he committed, but do people really expect him to wear an ear diaper the rest of his life?

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        I was thinking the same thing. But something tells me the people who’d be in charge of banning the photographer, if not Musk himself, wouldn’t know that.

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      When an octopus gets frightened it releases ink to confuse predators. Due to his love of hamburgers Donnie releases catsup.

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      It was probably caused when like eight huge guys shoved him to the ground.

      The guy’s nearly 80. Shit gets injured easily when you’re old.

      Real bullets were fired for sure, but I don’t think they actually came within a centimetre of preserving democracy. We’re not that unlucky.

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        If you’d actually watched the videos you’d have seen blood on the way to the ground; something definitely hit his ear.

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          Not to be conspiratorial but I watched that video back on super slow speed zoomed in and when he puts his hand up to his ear it comes back with no blood on it.

          Maybe I’m missing it. I have head injuries and they bleed a lot very quickly.

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      Could simply be his other ear and photograph is just mirrored. Like screens, you raise your left hand but to your reflection it’s its right hand.

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      I think he wasn’t hit by a bullet but by shrapnel from something else that was hit. It’ probably superficial.

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    And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

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        It’s so on-the-nose that I don’t even Trump is the parody anymore, it’s evangelical Christianity that’s the real parody. A group of folks who make a story about a socialist day laborer from the Middle East and use it to justify white supremacy, unfettered capitalism, and wealth as a measure of God’s love falling in line behind a cartoonishly accurate representation the “bad guy” in their book…exactly like their book said they would.

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      Out of context it sounds like something.

      But add the lines right before and it’s more clearly fever dream gibberish of a dying old man:

      And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, and on its horns were ten diadems, and on its heads were blasphemous names. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And the dragon gave it his power and his throne and great authority.

      Did Trump come out of the sea? Does he look like a leopard with bear feet and a lion mouth?

      People have been misunderstanding and trying to extend parts of that text to contemporary events since it was written.

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        Mar-a-lago Spanish - sea to lake

        There are 9 current trump towers. Moscow would make 10

        7 heads with blasphemous names - TRUMP on the top

        Feet of a bear -Russia is known as the bear in the west since early 20th century.

        Lion mouth - have you heard him speak? (Who hasn’t, he’s loud, boisterous, like a lion)

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        You’re right, but it’s also funny that Christianity has generally streamlined taking things out of context. I just say "Revelation 13:3 and boom, that verse is cited out of context. Endless pamphlets, posters, sermons, and so on focus on bringing some verse without context.

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        Apocalyptic literature isn’t meant to be taken literally. It’s a common mistake though, even among so-called Christians. “Mouth like a lion” could mean boastful, roaring, brave, loud, threatening, or any number of things.

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          And yet I’ve not seen anyone figure out that the locusts in Revelations was just a poetic taxonomy for the local middle eastern hornet, Vespa Orientalis, down to the golden crown on its face.

          People like to interpret those texts in all sorts of fantastical ways as long as it titillates them, but shy away from actually looking plainly at what’s being said.

          So by all means don’t take it literally. But also maybe don’t think that a text written by a syphilitic old man in antiquity is talking about the 2024 United States presidential election without a more compelling case.

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            Oh I didn’t mean there wasn’t literal things in it. Absolutely I would agree with you there’s a lot of playing around with stuff that is just plain. A lot of literal stuff that gets overlooked, and in no way talks about some future events but was talking about something that happened back then. Particularly in Matthew 24, which is clearly talking about two different events, but seems to always get rolled up into one.

            But Daniel 8 paralleled with Daniel 11 (actually the entire prophetic last half of Daniel) is one of the best examples of apocalyptic literature paired with an interpretation that we have. Daniel’s apocalyptic vision has more explanation attached to it than any other we have in the Bible, and it’s very instructive as to how we’re supposed to take apocalyptic writing.

            By the way it’s Revelation not revelations. I don’t care because you obviously are well-informed about these things, but it will matter with some people and automatically discount your message if you don’t say Revelation. Not trying to be a smartass.

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    I’m assuming all those free-speech nuts are really going after Musk for doing this right?

    I’m joking, we all know it’s just free-speech for the things they agree with …

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    Question: As this is no longer a neutral platform, what would be the legal implications? Is Twitter still a neutral carrier (or whatever the proper term is) and enjoys far-reaching legal protections for this?

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      There is no such thing as a “neutral carrier” for social media. It’s a made-up concept used to pretend that a social media site isn’t allowed to be partisan.

      There are zero legal ramifications for making Twitter as partisan as musk wants.

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      Nothing. Private company can block whoever they want from using their service. Doesn’t impact section 230 protections.

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      What’s a “neutral platform”? On Lemmy.world you get banned if you say something bad about israel.

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        And yet you post thousands of criticisms about Israel, exclusively, and I see that from you and others constantly. how are you circumventing the bans?

        Inb4 “you support/defend/love Israel/genocide”: no I clearly don’t, I’m just pointing out that you’re flat out lying here. Simply criticizing Israel has likely never resulted in a single ban.

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          What do you mean i have been banned from both news and worldnews for exposing Hasbara.

          Of course you post thousands of defenses of israel so you’re not banned.

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            Oh now it’s only certain communities. Before you claimed the instance banned users for any criticism of Israel. Goalposts on wheels I guess.

            So once again, maybe you could cite a single instance where I ever defended Israel. One time. All you have to do is cite one example. You won’t though, because you know that a comment where I said Biden isn’t responsible isn’t going to convince anyone.

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              Only the biggest communities lmao. Censoring anti israel news because it got too hot under their heels.

              Biden isn’t responsible for anything israel does sure dude. Biden never sent israell 2000 pound bombs to drop on schools or vetoes resolutions against israel at the UN. Anyone that claims otherwise should get banned from Lemmy.world right?

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                Deflecting and cramming words in my mouth are not examples of jackshit

                And I’m sure your bans have nothing to do with the many public examples we have of you lying.

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                  Indeed. The mods were banning anyone debunking now proven israeli lies about rape on oct7.

                  In classic Hasbara fashion you turn yourself into the victim while spouting all the lies you can think up.

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          They aren’t, but this user’s life work is saying anyone they don’t approve of is supporting awful people and actions. Why they aren’t actually banned for that toxic behavior is a mystery to me. Then they have the audacity to lie so brazenly: that the thing they do all day every day is banned behavior. They’re so oppressed!

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            It really is funny how it’s always the loudest people who cry about being “censored” when people don’t agree with them or dare call them out for their shitty behaviour. Linkerbaan acts as if he doesn’t have a reputation for his behaviour, and as if we can’t look through modlogs and his posting history to see if he really is being censored or not. Which, of course, he isn’t.

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            And yet this thread is full of users who claim the opposite experience. Guess you’re totally not lying.

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                Why would I need to say an obvious fact which fully contradicts your point? You are still here, able to lie your ass off on lemmy.world. claiming to be banned, which you clearly should be for spreading lies, but you aren’t.

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        I frequently state the fact that Israel is a genocidal apartheid ethnostate that has “Jewish supremacy” as the basis of its existence and should be abolished, and I haven’t been banned anywhere on lemmy.world for it

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      I mean, they didn’t even do that when he literally fucked up a Ukrainian operation against Russia.

      Money rules this country. It stopped being a democratic republic a long time ago.

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      Last time I saw ‘em, he said something about hanging out with his buddy at Boeing.

      I’m sure everything’s fine, they’re prolly just messin with planes & stuff.

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      TL;DR: he wasn’t banned, he quit:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/C-A3yZiObH6/

      On Saturday, I was perplexed by photos online of Trump boarding his plane en route to a bitcoin conference. There was no bandage on his right ear. I re-posted one of the photos on Twitter and wrote, “look closely at his ear that was ‘hit’ by a bullet from a AR-15 assault rifle.”⁣
      ⁣ “Fake news,” someone responded. “It’s the wrong ear,” said another, which of course was not true. “This is an old photo,” which I felt the need to reply to. I re-posted a screenshot of New York Times photographer Doug Mills’ Twitter post of the same situation of Trump boarding his plane, which included the date and time of his photo. Doug is one of Trump’s favorite photographers and Trump has publicly called him “my genius photographer.” So I thought the maga world would at least believe Doug Mills.⁣
      ⁣ They didn’t. The comments turned ugly. Mostly about me, but also some that disparaged Doug Mills. ⁣ ⁣ Since 2017, I’ve been accustomed to having vile and hateful comments thrown at me. But I had now exposed someone else, Doug Mills, to be the recipient of hateful messages on MY Twitter account. Not cool.⁣
      ⁣ On top of that, I’ve been at a cabin with no Internet and sporadic cell coverage for the past week, which made it difficult to post anything in the first place but also a challenge to push back against the hate.⁣
      ⁣ So I de-activated my Twitter account. It was a gut decision, made only by me. I am still not sure if this is a temporary or a permanent action.⁣
      ⁣ I was unaware that some on Twitter were a⁣ responding that Elon Musk had deleted my account. How would I know? I wasn’t able to access Twitter. I did receive a few DMs here on Instagram about this, but didn’t think much about it. ⁣ ⁣ Until…late last night, I received a text message from a New York Times reporter asking me to comment about my supposedly “being kicked off X for posting a photo of Trump’s ear.” And then this morning, I received a text message from a childhood friend who asked, in jest, “Is there a Free Pete Souza donation site?”⁣
      ⁣ It was time to respond. I have so much more I want to say about the state of social media, but for now I want to make it clear that I was not kicked off Twitter. I kicked myself off.⁣

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      I should have made this a top-level comment:

      TL;DR: he wasn’t banned, he quit:

      Source (Instagram)

      On Saturday, I was perplexed by photos online of Trump boarding his plane en route to a bitcoin conference. There was no bandage on his right ear. I re-posted one of the photos on Twitter and wrote, “look closely at his ear that was ‘hit’ by a bullet from a AR-15 assault rifle.”⁣
      ⁣ “Fake news,” someone responded. “It’s the wrong ear,” said another, which of course was not true. “This is an old photo,” which I felt the need to reply to. I re-posted a screenshot of New York Times photographer Doug Mills’ Twitter post of the same situation of Trump boarding his plane, which included the date and time of his photo. Doug is one of Trump’s favorite photographers and Trump has publicly called him “my genius photographer.” So I thought the maga world would at least believe Doug Mills.⁣
      ⁣ They didn’t. The comments turned ugly. Mostly about me, but also some that disparaged Doug Mills. ⁣ ⁣ Since 2017, I’ve been accustomed to having vile and hateful comments thrown at me. But I had now exposed someone else, Doug Mills, to be the recipient of hateful messages on MY Twitter account. Not cool.⁣
      ⁣ On top of that, I’ve been at a cabin with no Internet and sporadic cell coverage for the past week, which made it difficult to post anything in the first place but also a challenge to push back against the hate.⁣
      ⁣ So I de-activated my Twitter account. It was a gut decision, made only by me. I am still not sure if this is a temporary or a permanent action.⁣
      ⁣ I was unaware that some on Twitter were a⁣ responding that Elon Musk had deleted my account. How would I know? I wasn’t able to access Twitter. I did receive a few DMs here on Instagram about this, but didn’t think much about it. ⁣ ⁣ Until…late last night, I received a text message from a New York Times reporter asking me to comment about my supposedly “being kicked off X for posting a photo of Trump’s ear.” And then this morning, I received a text message from a childhood friend who asked, in jest, “Is there a Free Pete Souza donation site?”⁣
      ⁣ It was time to respond. I have so much more I want to say about the state of social media, but for now I want to make it clear that I was not kicked off Twitter. I kicked myself off.⁣