The odds of Donald Trump securing victory over Joe Biden in November have lengthened from 2/5 on Thursday to 8/15 on Friday, according to William Hill.

I have no idea about William Hill. But the odds they describe sound about right to me, and the Nate Silver thing and the summary of Trump’s speech sound informative

inb4 BIDEN COPIUM HAHAHA etc and etc

      • PunnyName@lemmy.world
        51·
        2 months ago

        If your vote didn’t matter, try wouldn’t be trying to make it harder (or blocking efforts to make it easier).

        VOTE

        • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
          4·
          2 months ago

          Please do explain how the necessity of further action “makes it harder to vote”.

          If people are so pathologically demand-avoidant that asking them to do more than just vote makes them stop voting then yelling at them to vote isn’t going to help either.

      • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
        20·
        2 months ago

        I’ve basically given up worrying about federal politics; I STILL VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS, but it’s clear they’re too solidly captured by special interests to do much there. I’ve shifted my focus to local/municipal politics and found a lot more success there.

    • Delusional@lemmy.world
      7·
      2 months ago

      Yup the idiots will still vote for him no matter what happens. Aliens could pop out of his skull and claim they’ve been operating him all along to destroy the earth and they’d still vote for him.

  • Sanctus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    98·
    2 months ago

    You think everyone is just tired of this shit? Both these dudes are older than my grandfather when he died. I am fucking tired boss. It shouldn’t be this crazy just to get sensible candidates who are actual human beings. It really shouldn’t.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
      94·
      2 months ago

      If only the well wasn’t poisoned with REPLACE BIDEN NOW OR WORLD WILL END ALSO KAMALA SUCKS bullshit, 5-10 times every hour, some of it coming yesterday still with fresh Cyrillic in its video description, we could have an adult conversation about what a good Democratic strategy would be, so that the end of the world doesn’t get elected

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
      37·
      2 months ago

      Absolutely correct. But even if the choice is a shitty one it’s also a very easy one. If you want fascism, vote for Trump. If not, vote for Biden.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
        35·
        2 months ago

        Or whoever the Democratic nominee is

        There’s a perfectly reasonable conversation to be had about replacing Biden being a better strategy. 10 seconds of thinking will lead one to realize that figuring out the strategy, and then switching to it, is way better than dumping Biden and then figuring out the strategy afterwards. And, it’s notable that all the same outlets who are openly hostile to democracy in the United States were the ones that were pushing so hard on the backwards version of the strategy, until the more gullible parts of the Democratic Party apparatus eventually picked it up and started running with it.

        The forward strategy is still fine. The loud preemptive drumbeat of hard criticism of Kamala that is now emerging, though, should hopefully serve as a big loud blaring fucking wake up call to anyone who is sincerely interested in defeating Trump who is still echoing the backwards version.

        • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          2 months ago

          I’ve said it before I’ll say it again. I’m voting for Kamala but it’s not clear she’s better than Biden as a strategy.

          But what is clear is that Kamala is better than nearly everyone else the Democrats can crown between today and the DNC. We only have a 4 months before the election and Kamala is the only one who was actually campaigning at all.

          So if we replace Biden, it’s almost purely to give Kamala a running mate. That’s about it, and these value in this.

          • mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
            6·
            2 months ago

            Yeah. To me the only options with any level of realistic viability are:

            1. Biden
            2. Harris
            3. Contested convention, someone with a baseball bat in hand talks firmly to the DNC about not fucking everything up with their foot on the scales like they did in 1968 and 2016, and see what shakes out of an actually fair process

            Anything else is nonsense. I have no real ironclad feelings about which of those options is best, although I lean towards 1 or 3, but the DUMP BIDEN RIGHT NOW, NOW NOW NOW, DON’T THINK ABOUT IT BOY DON’T ASK QUESTIONS JUST DO IT OR ELSE YOU DOOM AMERICA AND IT’LL ALL BE YOUR FAULT idea doesn’t appear in that list. To me.

            • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              2 months ago

              Yeah. I’m not against removing Biden (even if I think keeping Biden is the best option). I’m just against a brainless, plan less removal of Biden.

              I’ve pointed out how Liberals rallied in 2011 for Occupy Wall Street only for Republicans to win in 2012, 2014 and 2016. People need to think about politics of they ever want to get ahead.

              It’s not sufficient to just get together in a large rally. We need actual votes.

              I feel like #2 and #3 will likely lead to Kamala. I’m up for an open and fair convention even if Kamala isn’t selected.

    • Freefall@lemmy.world
      34·
      2 months ago

      I’m not voting for either candidate, I am voting for the people around Biden and against people that support P2025. Pretty simple.

      • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        2 months ago

        As someone who didn’t think Biden was a good choice in 2020 I fully agree, his administration seems to actually make things better!

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
    34·
    2 months ago

    The people that vote for trump don’t care.

    Christ, they wear diapers and put fake ear bandages on. You think they give a damn about what’s actually right?

  • Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de
    32·
    2 months ago

    Look what was the big things coming out of the RNC.

    1. A bulldog
    2. The troll that protects the water hazards on Trump’s courses (Kimberly Guilfoyle).
    3. The shocked remains of Florida pedo (Matt Gaetz).
    4. Racist, washed up, whats to fuck his daughter (Hogan).
    5. The UFC (Dana White).
    6. Shit kid rock song
    7. The most gay entrance you could do outside of Vegas or Broadway (Trump).

    No one cares except MAGA country. It is boring.

  • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
    19·
    2 months ago

    Newsweek seems to be the only publication making these claims. We’ve had some 2-3 weeks of Newsweek reportage of the Trump campaign floundering, its wheels falling off, and it circling the drain. Given Newsweek’s right-wing ownership and recently poor reputation for facts, it does feel like an op (perhaps to lull progressive campaigners into a false sense of security?)

  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
    19·
    2 months ago

    Okay, Democrats, what’s the play here then? Better ride this news with some really strong moves to amplify the impact. Don’t fuck it up, PLEASE.

    • Freefall@lemmy.world
      20·
      2 months ago

      Expecting the Dems to do a 180 and actually not fuck up is a bold expectation. JFC we need more agile leadership…

    • Asafum@feddit.nl
      5·
      2 months ago

      One of my favorite quotes about Democrats (other than that they form circular firing squads) is that “Democrats will never pass up the opportunity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”

      :(

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
    11·
    2 months ago

    So I think we are in a post 2016 news cycle so even though an assassination attempt is kind of historic, it’s not that big of a deal in 2024 when I’m sure next week we will get another huge earth shattering news. Maybe this time Putin finally croaks.

    • boogetyboo@aussie.zone
      5·
      2 months ago

      I’m an insomniac and the news came through while most of my country would be asleep. There’s been news I’ve woken my sleeping partner up for, because it’s been historic or 'in the run '.

      Jan 6 was one of those days.

      This wasn’t. And yeah it had just happened and then the event was over so, nothing really ongoing. But I literally read what I needed to about it and moved on.

      On reflection, America has used up all my sense of surprise, and I’m ashamed to say, compassion for them.

      I watched Sandy Hook unfold and cried. I remember that day. But the many, many that came after? Just another headline.

      I’m not hyper focused on the news; there’s plenty going on in my country of interest or more relevance to me.

      But I think it’s odd that the attempted assassination of an American President in my lifetime… Just isn’t surprising or interesting to me. I just have a ‘well that tracks for that place’ attitude. Putin? Now that would be something.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
        3·
        2 months ago

        But I think it’s odd that the attempted assassination of an American President in my lifetime… Just isn’t surprising or interesting to me.

        Not here either.

        I have heard one person who wasn’t some friend/family I was specifically talking to about it, even mention it. And she clearly didn’t give a shit. She referenced it for like 5 seconds talking about something else and then never returned to the topic.

        It’s fucking wild. I think everyone has just tuned out of the crazy shit politics news machine… which of course brings its own brand of danger. ☹️

        • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
          4·
          2 months ago

          Literally nobody, except some pundits, has mentioned it at all. Biden said “feels bad man” and tried to call the family of the guy who died. That’s it.

          I think this may be the better timeline because he gets like 1% of the sympathy of a normal president and all of the PTSD. If he died, he doesn’t get to lose the election.

          Fucking vote.

  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
    10·
    2 months ago

    Well that’s a click bait title. It’s based on betting markets that the head line completely misinterprets. The article itself admits Trump is still the favorite by far.

  • wieson@feddit.org
    9·
    2 months ago

    So when he droned on about Hannibal lecter, was he trying to talked about Hannibal Barca?

    (I don’t want to listen to the speech)

    • Furbag@lemmy.world
      20·
      2 months ago

      No. He literally thought that Hannibal Lecter, the fictional murderer and cannibal from the film “The Silence of the Lambs”, was both dead and also a great person. And no, the person who portrayed the character of Hannibal Lecter, Anthony Hopkins, isn’t dead either. Also, that was a speech from a few weeks ago I think, and not the RNC speech, which was also unhinged and devolved into a Trump rally attacking Biden and prominent leftists rather than the “call for unity from a changed man” we were promised by bad faith right wing media outlets.

      Trump’s brain is just as much a pile of mush as Biden’s is at this point, but at least I know in the moments of lucidity that Biden has, he’s effective at the job and does the right thing. Can’t say the same for the 34 time convicted felon running for re-election after he failed to steal the last one.

    • Noxy@yiffit.netEnglish
      10·
      2 months ago

      definitely a wisconsin thing. I had a foam cheesehead when I was a kid.

    • Asafum@feddit.nl
      4·
      2 months ago

      As someone mentioned, Wisconsin is known for cheese, lots and lots of dairy farms and whatnot out there.

      I actually have a coworker who came from Wisconsin and he will walk around drinking a 1/4 gallon of milk regularly lol