EDIT, with a relevant source for context:

Since 1940, an estimated 50% of zoonotic disease emergence has been associated with agriculture (1–3). This estimate, however, is necessarily conservative because only direct agricultural drivers are considered in the epidemiological literature, i.e., within the farm gat

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The intensification of animal agriculture through confinement and industrialization has directly led to the emergence of viruses including Nipah and H5N1 influenza (“swine flu”) (18) and antibiotic-resistant infectious bacteria including methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus and Escherichia coli (19, 20).

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.add6681

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      Is there a vegan option that still supports animal cruelty? I don’t mind giving up meat but I need to know that all of gods creatures will still suffer from the Dominion of mankind

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        Hmm well for one thing you can pollute more to make up for your smaller environmental footprint on a vegan diet, maybe get some trash fires going in the backyard, throw plastic in the ocean, that sort of thing, and then maybe watch dog fights and buy stocks in animal ag companies to help them lobby to subsidize torturing unimaginable numbers of animals?

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      Wish the alternatives weren’t so expensive at restaurants and the such. Honestly don’t get it, whenever I cook my self, the meat is always the most expensive part, so why is vegetarian or god forbid vegan food so expensive at restaurants? Stuff like soi meat strips are dirt cheap, not to mention will likely never spoil in storage. I know like one restaurant that actually serves the meatless food cheaper, but that one generally strives to be as mass affordable as possible.

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      Plants don’t have the same receptors as animals. Disease jumping from plants to animals is much more difficult. Even the diseases that you hear about coming from plants are usually from spraying or containmention from animal manuare produced by animal agriculture

      We aren’t dumping 73% of the worlds antibiotics on plants like we are with animal agriculture

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          How were you able to accomplish this?

          Edit: I want to mention that I don’t mean to be rude with this comment, I am asking genuinely as it’s been especially bad lately.

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            For me, meal replacements such as Soylent (used to be Ensure before I became vegan) are a big part of my diet. I’ve always had an easier time with liquids than solids.

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        Fortunately we’re making fast advancements in cultured meat. You’ll be able to eat chicken raw since cultured chicken doesn’t require salmonella to live.

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        They already are. Animal flesh is most expensive. There are plenty of plant foods that are healthier and more affordable.

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        There’s an inverse relationship when it comes to income and veganism. Lower income people are more likely to be vegan than high income. Additionally, POC are significantly more likely to be vegan. The image that veganism is for rich white people is a myth.

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      We need more meat alternatives like dog and cat. There are millions of wild dogs and cats just waiting to be ate.

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      The H5N1 strain of bird flu is the big one right now, but it’s responsible for a large amount of disease spead

      Since 1940, an estimated 50% of zoonotic disease emergence has been associated with agriculture (1–3). This estimate, however, is necessarily conservative because only direct agricultural drivers are considered in the epidemiological literature, i.e., within the farm gat

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      The intensification of animal agriculture through confinement and industrialization has directly led to the emergence of viruses including Nipah and H5N1 influenza (“swine flu”) (18) and antibiotic-resistant infectious bacteria including methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus and Escherichia coli (19, 20).

      https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.add6681

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        FFS can we please not get bird flu out and trucking?

        I’d prefer not to go through another pandemic.

        I saw too many rail cans of body bags during the last one. (I should clarify they were empty bags but still it was fuckin horrifying as medical supplies was in super short supply except body bags)

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      They were the most likely culprit in the H1N1 swine flu epidemic that almost killed a guy I know (he was a pretty healthy 20-something and had to be put on a ventilator and induced coma). The cause of that epidemic was related to literal lakes of untreated pig feces generated by factory farms and likely spread to humans via flies.

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    Can’t wait for meat being for the upper class again like in medieval times 🤡