The important piece of this to me is this: She made $1 mil on OnlyFans and $42k/year as a teacher. She wants to be a teacher despite making plenty of money from other sources. This tells me that unless you have other evidence of impropriety she’s someone we want in the classroom. It also reinforces my stance, along with plenty of other studies that have been performed, that a universal basic income won’t stop people from working.
Pay people better and we’ll just keep working because we like it. It’s part of being human, but we shouldn’t be suffering to survive at the same time.
$1 million = 23.8 years of teaching at $42K/yr.
Add in that id you don’t blow it all, you get to count the interest income. A long term investment gets about 6-7% per year. That’s actually more than the teaching job pay.
To go the other way, her tax bracket is a lot higher than the base salary alone would be. And if it’s $1m in a year, almost all of that will be in the highest bracket.
If shes single, her combined effective federal and Missouri income tax is around 40%, so she took home roughly 600k. If she’s married, then her total effective tax is 25%, so she took home 750k.
For the 600k investment at a conservative 4%, which right now you can get in some savings accounts, her interest alone would be 24k/yr. For the 750k, it would be 30k/yr.
With a more realistic return of 7-8% in today’s high interest rate markets, both of those sums would net more than her old salary of 42k/yr.
A long term investment gets about 6-7% per year.
Much better than that in the current market
Brb selling pictures of my balloon knot.
In all seriousness though, I don’t blame her one bit
You’ll forgetting rule one
People probably will choose to work on different things though. It’s harder to exploit a workforce that isn’t as desperate. That’s the real reason why UBI isn’t happening.
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Bonk
The last thing a public school wants is a teacher with actual understanding of sex teaching a sex education class.
My school had a sex ed class although I can’t honestly remember anything that we were told in it. But basically if students managed to get to the end of formal education without getting pregnant that was generally considered to be a success.
They seriously had no real interest in educating students at all.
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Jesus Christ. Were condoms banned in your town or something?
Depends if the school’s in Texas or not. But more broadly In my experience the problem is that they go on and on about no sex outside of marriage which is an unrealistic expectation, and don’t actually ever explain things like preventatives.
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While I’d trust this person to do a good job better than the teachers hired by Catholic schools, being an Only Fans performer doesn’t really qualify you for that.
I quit a job I really liked for one I didn’t like nearly as much because I hardly made more than minimum wage
If I won the lottery I would go back to that first job and work for free.
Ditto. Ive met countless older people now who kept up doing the work they were passionate about, even if it in time became a hobby that they did at a loss. People like to work. They like to see the fruits of their labor take shape before their eyes, and they like feeling like theyre doing something that benefits someone other than themselves.
As it stands, the rules we live by only reward the infinite pursuit of profit, but that doesnt align with the values people find themselves holding whether they like it or not.
Case in point to your last part:
I was fired at the beginning of the year. I had sufficient funds I coulda retired if I wanted to. I’m not quite 40.
It’s been 2 months and I am so fucking bored I got a job. I didn’t go get a part time job to fill my time, I got a job in my field continuing to work at “my level” because it fulfills me.
I’m now able to do what I want because I want to rather than because of some existential need. My work product is WAY better.
Plus you can visit and talk to her for free! Not lol, lol.
A million dollars from OnlyFans and now she gets an employment law claim against the new employer.
This may truly be the only way to get ahead as a teacher in the US…
oops I dropped these
https://www.wsj.com/articles/yes-students-do-learn-more-from-attractive-teachers-1472223974
how clumsy of me, sorry y’all.
Man ugly people truly are fucked in every sense.
People are all equal. But some people are more equal than others.
The attractive teachers must have really been frustrated by me. I only cared if you were a cool teacher. Most of the time, the attractive teachers were not the cool teachers.
My favorite and best teacher was a 70 year old retired Catholic nun who was a big fan of rulers on knuckles. But my God was she a fantastic teacher.
…And was she hot?
GILF to her knees.
Upward? Or, that’s where her nipples were?
There’s so much to unpack there, but let’s go out on a limb and bet you appreciate the skilled application of a little force to inspire accuracy and attention to detail.
She only did it once. She only had to do it once.
And, with those two sentences, your memoir begins…
In theory or did she actually?
For sure it’s different when kids would just find out and start downloading her naked photos. Then parents would find out and be insanely mad that kids are viewing their teacher’s naked photos. It’s different case than secretly fantasizing about your pretty teacher lol
I know how the parents feel. That’s stupid article didn’t include a link. Journalistic malpractice is what it is
I might be a stray data point, but I had a smoking hot partial differential equations professor who dressed for the weather during the summer semester. Didn’t learn a damn thing.
Oh how embarrassing…
My hottest teacher was just for homeroom. Full package. Leather skirt, leopard print satin top, high heels…
I bet this is true for adults too! Lol
I love how the employer admitted to not checking her references or googling her beforehand.
Can’t really blame her when they didn’t do their due diligence.
Yeah, the ones who hired a teacher without doing any sort of a background check are the ones who really should be fired. Imagine if they hired someone who was actually dangerous to their students.
The new employer wasn’t a school.
You only check references after there’s a problem, everyone knows that
When I was in high school, my 11th grade biology teacher was let go after 1 week because he didn’t have a teaching license
I’m a senior manager at a pretty big company.
That’s something she does on the side, and if anyone in the workplace gave her shit, I would tell them to leave it the fuck alone unless they wanted me to bring HR in to the convo.
Can people please not be cunts? (I’m an Aussie…)
Edit: People need to disconnect things. Say there’s leaked nudes (or even just public nudes) of a work colleague. Let’s take it to they used to do porn. Yep, that’s something they did. That has zero impact on their role now or who they are in their role. They don’t deserve shame, or ridicule.
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That’s fucked up. There’s nothing about that video that was remotely inappropriate for work. Everyone needs to join a union, holy hell.
So she was essentially fired for being a comedic actor. Imagine if the restaurant industry had the same policy.
It’s potentially worse, and stupider, than that.
The bank didn’t fire her specifically because she posted the video where she made a couple faces after trying kombucha. They fired her because her face started to get used for the meme. Completely out of her control, because people started posting “thing I don’t like, thing I like” memes with this format, often times with various political messages. Basically someone else used her face in a “this brings joy, this does not bring joy” meme and she got canned because of the bank’s “image.” As if it was actually her saying these things.
I mean, I hope she got a hell of a lawsuit out of that, because damn. Also its a bank so you know they have at least some money.
At Will employment. “In a meme” is not a protected class, and a reasonable bank employee could see her meme-attachment having a detrimental effect on business (you don’t have to be in your reasons for firing someone as long as those reasons aren’t protected or being used to hide that you’re firing them for a protected reason). I’d guess she’d have no case in almost any state in the US with their lack of employee protections.
And to be clear - she probably got unemployment. “At-Will” isn’t a magic spell.
Terminating an employee without cause requires them to pay unemployment.
She was terminated “for cause”. To get unemployment, she’s likely to have to fight for it. She’s likely to win, but it’s not a free thing.
Gross. Here in Brazil the employers would be bending over backwards to beg her not to sue them for all they’re worth.
restaurant industry
Isn’t that where fired comedic actors go after they are fired?
Wow. TIL. That sucks.
What would HR at your company say?
“We need to protect our innocent company from these scumbag workers at all cost!”
I assume, they don’t exist to protect workers’ rights.
Stop giving people shit about their “hobbies”.
Are you saying that to me or as a quote?
HR where I work is excessively paranoid about terminations. They will want a paper trail of performance failures or argue to death that “then they’ll be able to argue they were really fired for a protected reason. Get me a paper trail of performance failures”.
Not saying our HR is worker-friendly. They’re just VERY lawsuit-averse.
Flip-side, I worked at a company that fired anyone for any reason and just kept cash aside for wrongful termination suits. And they had a HUGE HR team, whose job it was to keep the employers happy.
Maybe we should pay our teachers so they don’t have to do more work when they’re done with work so they can do stuff like not starve to death or have a roof over their head?
I am not from US but is the same thing too. Teachers are paid so bad that doing videochat is actually good than just steal or something else.
They claim that I violated their social media policy, but will not respond to me with how I violated it.
This second part is what is going to get her a nice piece of damages. What was the policy? Was it spelled out when she started? Is Only Fans actually social media?
The answers are: There’s a vague one that certainly doesn’t cover the use of OF; she wasn’t given it; and no, she’s an actress.
Only if she can prove the firing was related to being a member of a protected class. Unless it was not at will employment but I’m not aware of any private sector jobs like that anymore.
Edit: people keep telling me I’m wrong so that may be true.
No, they gave a reason and that reason isn’t covered under their policy, so she should still be covered.
If they let her go without a reason, then she would have to prove discrimination. But if they say “You violated our social media policy” and refuse to show how, and she can prove that nothing she did was on violation of the policy as written, then that is a clear case of unlawful termination.
As said below, they gave a reason. It has to be consistent with the actual policy and that policy has to be applied fairly and universally. If someone is making it up as they go, then they did it wrong.
I mean, you can do all the things on only fans you do on Instagram so I would say it’s definitely at best social media, at worst porn platform
Hey, “A” for effort, but maybe next time you could turn in a revised and polished thought rather than the first thing that burbles to the surface?
You’re an Asshole
That’s Adorable.
copycat
juvenile
and?
Does the employment policy specifically make this distinction? Probably not. I can guarantee that they never thought of OF when the policy was written and OF may not have even existed back then.
If someone were willing to pay for pics of my ballsack and I made a lot more selling those pics than I make teaching in high school I would still miss my less-paying job
i have news for you.
If it’s that pictures of my ball sack will earn me more than my current job, I’ll need to go back in time and tell me how sooner!
Well what sort of talents does your ball sack have? I bet you’d make some money on Lemmy if you could document your ballsack installing arch on a computer it built.
You’re on to something here… Currently the only talents I know of are replication via ooze and shape shifting.
It kindanr resembles a deep-sea brough to surface
Didn’t work out for Randy in South Park either…
It feels like she knew she would get fired from this new job, leverage it nationwide articles and get even more subscribers to her OF page. She even references the teaching gig in her bio, and the new job in her latest posts.
Maybe. It doesn’t matter. Jobs shouldn’t be able to fire you because you get naked on the Internet, which requires you to pay to even see in the first place.
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@meep_launcher@lemm.ee made a great point about teacher/student dynamics and I can agree with that in most circumstances (e.g. the students are underage). I still think it’s ridiculous for her second, non-teaching job to fire her.
I’m a teacher and they specifically have guidelines on what you’re behavior online should be. Keeping your socials clean. Making sure my interactions with students are kept professional.
The fact is that kids these days are nosey and great researchers. Having an only fans as an educator has a huge risk of students discovering it, and will ultimately change the relationship between student and teacher from a student/ teacher relationship to a viewer/ pornstar one.
This is the most sane, rational summation of this debacle I’ve read yet.
This thread seems to fall into the “people who have no idea about the realities of teaching being confidently incorrect”.
As someone somewhere said; if you want to lose faith in comment sections, go to a discussion on a topic that you are an expert on.
Thanks for adding some sanity and nuance to this conversation. I agree with the general sentiment here that stuff that a person does on the side of their career should not affect their employment for most careers, but when it is a teacher, especially one that works with minors, it’s a bit of a different dynamic.
That being said, we should absolutely pay teachers enough so that they don’t have to get side gigs to survive. It is disgusting how little teachers are paid for the amount of work they do, and their importance to society as a whole.
This whole ordeal sounds like a classic reddit moment.
to a viewer/ pornstar one
And depending on their age, they might even have sex. People want one easy solution to all problems, but being a teacher and a regular office worker is not the same, hence the standards are different too.
Here’s a wild idea that seems to never catch on in 'murica - have the parents actually educate their children about how socially unacceptable that’d be.
Eh I disagree with some jobs. Teachers are supposed to be role models to students and keep certain things private.
The problem is we aren’t paying teachers adequately for that. It reminds me of essential workers during the pandemic. If we need these people so badly, or we’re asking them to be role models and be private about certain things, then we should be paying them much, much more.
Even if teachers are supposed to be role models for students which I think is debatable it certainly is not applied outside the classroom. They will never be paid enough in any world to warrant them crafting their entire being as if they are some K-pop idols.
I’d take it a step further and say that nude modeling doesn’t make a bad role model. People don’t generally get into a line of work unless they want to or are pressured into it (directly or indirectly). Someone who doesn’t want anyone to see their body won’t start a nude OF just because their favorite teacher did it. They’ll start one because they want to sell nudes or because they want to pay bills and have exhausted other options.
That last bit is more evil than any kind of voluntary sex work. People sell their bodies for worse things than sex work. Like mining, the farming work that depends on illegal immigrants (or legal ones whose bosses assume they won’t raise a stink if labour laws aren’t followed), or a bunch of factory or construction work that exposes people to fumes and dust they probably shouldn’t be inhaling. Shit that leaves them broken, or with cancer or some other disease that shortens their life. If someone can sell pictures of their bodies to avoid that kind of work, IMO that’s a good role model.
Is it, in your eyes, morally wrong to sell naked photos of yourself?
The porn industry has many, many problems, and OnlyFans has just recently been targeted by an investigative piece by Reuters journalists for doing little about people using their platform to sell non-consensual nude pictures, or even videos of rape, but as long as you yourself are doing it of your own free will, I don’t see the problem, even if you are a teacher.
How is doing sex work being a bad role model?
I want you to know that I don’t have an answer for this and that you’ve made me think about this from a different angle, which I very much appreciate. It’s a very good point.
Thank you for saying so! I have to admit that my comment is almost adressed to myself as much as to you. I was raised with all the sexual hang ups of conservative Christianity. The idea of my daughter growing up and choosing to do sex work certainly makes me uncomfortable. But I also would like my daughter to be unashamed of her sexuality when she grows up, and I wouldn’t want her to be judged no matter how she chooses to express herself. I also believe sex work can be an incredibly compassionate form of labor, providing human connection to people starved of affection.
On the other hand, I do have some reservations about sex work, particularly when it comes to outright prostitution. Can someone have sex with so many people and still maintain the ability to have a full, healthy relationship with a partner? What are the consequences for social stability of making it so easy for men to cheat on their partners?
I think I’m in the exact same position as you. Generally speaking I tend to be personally conservative about sex and relationships – not really into hook up culture, thinking sex should be with someone you deeply love, etc.
That said, as a single, nearly 30 year old dude, I do watch porn, and it’s usually by independent content creators, not studios. I find the idea of maligning those women for what they do to be utterly reprehensible, and peak hypocrisy. If I were in their shoes, there’s a decent chance I’d also post nudes and try to monetize it.
Yet, at the same time, I don’t like subscribing to only fans, because it just feels wrong, like on a core level personally. On some level, I’m wary of getting overly invested in someone and having a weird parasocial thing. I’m glad that I’ve given them money in the short term though.
Human sexuality is really weird, and the way society plays into it makes it nigh incomprehensible sometimes how we feel and act about it.
Human sexuality is really weird, and the way society plays into it makes it nigh incomprehensible sometimes how we feel and act about it.
I couldn’t agree more
Gonna get roasted for this, but why?
I think it’s pretty reasonable for an employer to fire someone for posting racist things on the Internet. I think we can all agree on that. Actions outside of work can have an effect on work and so I think it’s reasonable to make employment decisions based on how the employer acts outside of work. I would argue racism is morally wrong and sex work is not, but I don’t think it’s possible to define employment laws in a way that fits a universal moral code.
I love the protected classes we have for employment now: age, gender, color, religion, etc. I think these protections are valuable to employees everyone, and I think they make sense because they don’t affect your ability to do the job. I having “does sex work on the side” on this list makes much less sense.
I think many, maybe even most, jobs wouldn’t be affected by an employee having an onlyfans, and so in my opinion someone shouldn’t get fired for it most of the time. But I think there’s a clear line between the protected classes and people who post on onlyfans.
Simple answer. Most of us (and most of the world) thinks At-Will employment is barbaric.
It is entirely reasonable to require some substantive effect to warrent termination, even if that substantive effect is not directly the teacher’s fault. Her having an onlyfans account, not grounds for firing. Her onlyfans account passed around by students? Grounds for termination.
There’s a (not so new) trend in the US for companies to crack down on side gigs. Yes, sex work is a politically charged side-gig, but we shouldn’t ever be supporting a company’s right to fire people having side-gigs without a very good reason. So long as your side-gig never encroaches into your day job in any real (not hypothetical) way, there really isn’t a good reason.
I appreciate you taking the time to respond so thoughtfully.
I hear what you’re saying about not firing someone until an actual effect on the business is felt. I think that makes sense in this situation but there’s certainly situations where you could find something out about an employee and should be able to fire them before it’s affecting the business. Maybe my accountant committed tax fraud when they filed their taxes. That’s totally in their personal life and if no one finds out about it, then it doesn’t affect the bussiness. I still think it would be totally reasonable to fire that person.
I’ve worked my whole career in salary positions where side gigs are against my contract/need special approval so I think I’m just used to that way of thinking.
It makes me all warm and fuzzy to see people have respectful disagreements!
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Her job doesn’t get to decide what she does in her off time. Of course on the streets of the real world they definitely try and succeed. I’m saying that they should not.
God i just want the world to change for the better. This is dumb
https://www.pornhub.com/model/bricoppage
About bricoppage: I am THAT Teacher from the News! Google me 🤫 OnlyFans.com/BriannaCoppage
- Brianna Coppage (REAL teacher) does DP for the first time! 💦
- Brianna Coppage Missouri teacher gives sloppy BLOWJOB
- Brianna Coppage (REAL Missouri teacher) rides COCK until she cums!
- Missouri teacher Brianna Coppage masterbates on camera
She’s a teacher and a porn star, but she still can’t spell masturbate…
smh my head
Fucking THANK YOU! Being in Missouri does not excuse such a faux pas. It is an insult to both of her professions.
How would missouri excuse this at all? Is this a testament to the quality of life here?
I figure it’s commentary on the education system?
Yeah saint louis education system sucks 🤣
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Shaking my head my head?
#!/bin/bash
echo “He had to emphasize whose head it was.”for better compatibility
RIP in peace
Maybe she has a master’s degree in it
I’m shaking something.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 these names have me cracking up
i can’t click this link in my country. based if true.
We need a hero, to link this OF
Just google her name from the article and go to her Instagram. The linktree is in her bio.
Hell, it’s just her name briannacoppage
The link
Omg so hot
We can’t talk about piracy anymore, but that’s what I meant
Nice
It’s probably on one of those disgusting porn sites!
…”They claim that I violated their social media policy, but will not respond to me with how I violated it.”
KMOV reached out to Compass Health, but the company has not yet responded.
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Yes, I read that in the article
Sexy librarian. My favorite.
If there was karma on this place then I’m about to yeet it into oblivion but nevertheless. Teachers are not paid nearly enough but doing only fans and teaching to not combine at all. I won’t bother explaining why because it’s obvious.
To me this reads as:
< preemptive justification for saying something controversial and/or indefensible >
< controversial statement with no justification or reasoning >
“Not going to explain because it’s obvious”
Probably not how it was intended, but that’s some weak sauce
My sauce is that it is not how a teacher should act period. Also it’s not private she also has some pornhub which is publicly available website. no matter the pay.
that it is not how a teacher should act period.
C’mon dude, just say the sexist parts out loud. We all know that’s where this conversation is headed anyway.
It’s the only reason you keep sticking to circular logic to defend yourself. You know if you say what you really mean here, it isn’t going to go over well.
What is there sexist about this mate ? It doesn’t matter whoever does it a teacher should not be making porn on the side.
Why not?
When someone works in education, they take on a role that involves being a model of behavior and a guardian of social and ethical standards for their students. Engaging in online (which by design is inevitably public) sexual activities can be seen as inappropriate for teachers for several reasons:
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Professional Standards and Ethics: Most educational institutions have codes of conduct that outline expected behaviors both inside and outside the classroom. Engaging in these activities can be viewed as a violation of these professional standards and ethics.
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Role Modeling: Teachers are seen as role models by their students and the community. Engaging in behavior that is generally considered to be private and intimate in public can undermine the respect and trust that students and parents have in educators. It can also send conflicting messages to students about privacy, consent, and appropriate social behavior.
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Social Norms: Engaging in these online practices can offend community standards. Educators, as public figures to some extent, are expected to uphold social norms to maintain the integrity of their profession.
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Impact on the Educational Environment: Such behavior can distract from the educational mission, potentially creating an environment that is not conducive to learning. It might lead to gossip, disruptions, and a breakdown in the professional atmosphere of an institution.
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Privacy and Professional Boundaries: Teachers engaging in this blur the lines between their private lives and their professional roles. Maintaining a clear boundary between these spheres is essential for maintaining professional integrity and ensuring that the focus remains on education and student welfare.
In essence, teachers are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that maintains the dignity of their profession, respects the norms of society and fosters a positive, respectful, and effective learning environment. Online sexual activities, due to their private nature and potential to conflict with social norms, can significantly undermine these goals.
Finally, I want to add that it is specifically because of all this that teachers must be paid way more due to the CRITICAL role they play in society.
1/2: You’re basically saying the same thing twice here. You’re saying that making adult content is bad, which has so far been your only argument. You have yet to explain why it is bad/immoral/unethical/unprofessional, just confidently asserting that your opinon on the matter is actually fact. You are also taking huge liberties by trying define the private production and distribution of pornography as a form of public sex.
3: Very close again to 1 & 2, but worth bringing up that America is a free country with free speech and expression. Being offended isn’t a valid argument here. People have rights and shouldn’t be obligated to conform with a concept a vacuous as “social norms” to hold public employment.
4: This is just conjecture. Firing a teacher for this requires solid evidence that is true. Not just concern trolling that it might be true, which is all you’ve offered so far.
5: That’s why she has always produced adult content pseudonymously. The people who doxxed her violated her privacy. That’s hardly her fault.
And finally, literally every single point you made could be (and regularly is) used to argue that LBGTQ+ people don’t belong in education, because hatred of sex workers and hatred of queer people are both rooted in a deep fear and opposition to sexual freedom and empowerment, and a belief that those things make a person’s mere existence inappropriate for children.
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ah, apologies, i wasn’t implying that your ‘source’ was weak, it was clear you were stating a personal opinion so no ‘source’ needed.
I was using a slang term : https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=weak+sauce
I was implying your argument was weak, built on a shaky foundation of personal opinion stated as universal fact.
doing only fans and teaching to not combine at all
Then we’ll see fewer and fewer teachers. And more and more sex workers.
that’s actually what I’m saying as well. The pay for teachers and the conditions they are working in are absolutely horrendous. I can’t imagine working with a bunch of, lets face it, zoo animals who have a near free rule because the school and the parents back them all the time and that 5 days a week for hours. but at the end of the day you can’t expect to post porn online and then be suprised that you’re getting fired. The reality is that teachers are still held to high standards while received little to no pay and students are not. in a perfect world I expect both of them to be held to high standards.
I won’t bother explaining why because
it’s obviousarticulating my feelings on this would reveal me to be sexist and regressive.Next morning in class:
Billy you get full marks today, your dad gave a generous tip last night.
Thanks I practically explosed laughing and everyone in the waiting room starred at me.
So I’m just curious as to who exactly reported her because presumably they don’t look at that kind of content and when they did find that content they were appalled and they just sort of stumbled onto it?
Please do bother, because it honestly isn’t obvious to me.
Oh! Thats awful! What sites did she post her nudes to? Like which specific ones?
Edit: this is a joke. Im devastated that i need to say this. How is it no obvious? Please do not send me links to her porn.
Is there a reason to downvote me other than thinking im being serious? This is a serious subject, she should not be fired for having a hobby. I 100% believe that.
I was just making a joke.
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I know how to google, if i wanted to i could probably find YOUR nudes (even if they dont exist)
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Its a reference to a tv show. Im personifying the joke performed by the character Mac.
Oh! No it was a joke. I dont want the actual link. Its an always sunny reference.
Appreciate the thought, though. Thanks
No worries! I’ve never seen IASIP.
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