• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    If Trump loses the 2024 election because Texas temporarily secedes, taking its 38 Republican electoral votes with it, I might die from the schadenfreude.

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    Can we just acknowledge that this is unhinged? Biden has the strongest border policies ever implemented by a Democrat. This just shows that there is no compromise possible with these traitors. They will never admit you made a step in their direction, only demand more and more and more until you’re just doing their bidding.

    This is truly the way of extremists and terrorists, they demand the country be run to their preferences, democratic systems be damned.

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      It really is sad to see so many Americans captivated by misinformation that they’ve convinced themselves is real. Abandoning science, reason, discussion, compromise, even tolerance. I try to keep my bloodthirst in check but after years upon years of them growing like a cancer, forming cult-like militia, becoming full blown domestic terrorists threatening high treason, it can’t be tolerated any further. It was cute when it was just posturing, symbolizing they were unhappy with the system at large and wanted to fuck with it a little.

      Now it’s spiraled out of control. Now the punishment for treason should be felt. Either mercifully with the arrest of Abbott or vengefully with the GOP Texans being buried under the new courthouse.

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      Is there somewhere I can read about Biden’s border policy compared to other Democrats? This is definitely something I’m totally uninformed about and I’d like to read up a bit, if you know of a good rundown.

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        Not really a rundown. Just years of paying attention. The basic thing is they aren’t recognizing the right to declare asylum after entering the country anymore. You have to wait in your home country or Mexico until your paperwork is processed. Of course that’s ridiculous considering how the cartels prey on the refugees and asking someone to stay in the country they are seeking asylum from.

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      A more cynical person might suggest they are doing this BECAUSE of that. Biden can’t run on the numbers if Texas keeps blocking action.

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    cut off all federal funding

    let then secede

    invade and retake them as a territory with no federal voting rights

    make dc and puerto rico states

    republicans never win again

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      Naw, split up the state into 4 states, with Houston, Austin, Dallas and San Antonio as capitals. Cut state lines and populations up to ensure that as the main city votes so goes the state.

      That’d be 8 democratic senators.

      Add DC, PR, American Virgin Islands American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands and that’s potentially another 12.

      Regardless of politics the territories, and DC, should have statehood and equal rights and representation as the rest of us or they should have independence. It’s part of our national identity. No more colonialism or secondclass sub citizens.

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    This Texan checked into it, and unfortunately we have no procedure for recalling our treasonous governor. At a minimum, he should be held in contempt of court and jailed. I would like to see a treason indictment.

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      there is- at the federal level some vague means of getting “congress” to do it. Victor Berger was removed by a vote of the full house (WI rep that was convicted improperly of espionage. he was part of the socialist party in 1919.) He was elected as a representative to the house (and the specific side of congress has jurisdiction over itself).

      There’s nothing saying the senate, for example, couldn’t weigh in, declare him unfit and have him removed from his position. I have no idea how that would shake out… but given his announcement or declaration or whatever that was, that’s basically invalidating the US constitution… that is definitely insurrection against the US. The 14th amendment section 5 gives authority to soley Congress to enforce 14th’s section 3 (you know the insurrection clause).

      I would expect that if the house of senate voted to remove him… then the shitheads in SCOTUS would say that it has to be unanimous with the house of reps. but it would be something more than what’s currently being done- which is nothing.

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        The 14th Amendment’s 3rd clause is self executing, so arguably he’s just disqualified himself from office.

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      Unfortunately for us, people kept voting him into office even after he called the Texas guard to watch the US army with the Jade Helm panic that Russia started. Idk if they will ever vote him out

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        His last election was the most competitive of his career.

        The public in general leans pro-choice, so Republicans are absolutely losing support with their insane anti-abortion policies even if it isn’t obvious yet.

        He’s also been in national headlines a lot lately for his extremism. He has always been horrible, but he has never been so visible for it.

        Next election, he will be hanging on by voter suppression, a wish, and a prayer.

        What worries me though is why he’s gone off the deep end already if he still believes he needs to get re-elected…

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    The only issue I have with secession talk is there are lots of Texas citizens who aren’t the problem. Every red state has people with common sense, they just don’t have the ability at the moment to shut up the idiots. Plus secession at this point is ludicrous, leaving with your toys isn’t how you fix problems. Oh wait, it’s Republicans, they don’t ever have solutions anymore anyway it’s all a political game.

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      The pro-seccession crowd here isn’t even the majority of Republicans. They brought a petition to out a measure on the primary ballot and the state GOP said no. Then the state Supreme Court declined to intervene.

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    These dumb fucks can’t go a single winter or summer without their power grids going down and then begging for free money and help but they somehow thing they can be their own country? Fuck it, let em try and then they will find out that the Mexican cartels don’t fuck around.

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      These jackanapes get to yammering about secession every few years but haven’t actually done anything about it for decades. It’s all performative.

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    As a city Texan who lives in one of the most military-friendly and full cities in the state, I say I’d like to see you try greggy.

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    How do 1%ers hear this and not immediately pull campaign funding, what would a civil war do to the US economy. When a nation with the most guns in the world has people starving what do they think is gonna happen. I guess they are counting on being kings in the aftermath or that Jesus will come back or something.

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      See, your problem is you assume the 1% are intelligent. They are not. The attribute they have the most of is greed. Greed can blind even the intelligent, and most of them aren’t even playing with a full deck.

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      The 1% use political theater to distract people from the fact that half of Americans can’t afford rent.

      This is exactly what they want.

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      Here’s the thing: they’ve got a “self-sufficient” bunker, private military contractors, and have done some martial arts training. So in their mind all they have to do to come out on top in a collapse of society is hide in the bunker surrounded by armed guards and judo chop any guard who tries to take over.

      They also know that our current way of society is not sustainable with them hoarding the wealth. So they believe collapse is inevitable.

      So why not accelerate the process whilst they’re still young and can fool themselves into believing they can survive a collapse of society with all their resources stashed away.

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      It’s because they know it’s political theater. Bullshit posturing. Virtue signaling. As long as it gets the red state voters worked up so they’re not paying attention to actual issues, that’s what counts.

      Texas is not going to secdee.

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      Because it’s theater. It’s part of the tongue in cheek game they play where the Republican leadership all basically play the part of the fourteen year old male imagination. They’re gonna beat up the bully, kiss the cheerleader, and win the football game. Everyone knows it’s fantasy but it’s comforting fantasy that makes them feel big, and they want that. They expect it.

      Trump is fascinating because he DID those things. He hurt the right people to satisfy a growing chunk of the core GOP base that have Poe’s Law’d so hard they actually take the fantasy seriously. If he said he’d let Texas secede I’d honestly believe he’s stupid and/or nihilistic enough to do it

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    if they secede we’ll have to update all the flags. what a pain. maybe we could just add in puerto rico really quick

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      Would rather have Puerto Rico anyway. Texas will return to being Mexico pretty swiftly and that’s probably better for everyone.

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        Mexico won’t want them. My bets are they break into even more countries, some of which get incorporated into the US and Mexico. Then the remains become a lawless region because they don’t have the money to fight the cartels. So we get a military occupation on our southern border. Nobody comes away happy but the MIC.

        Which given the arc of history in the post WW2 period is, I believe, the best indicator of how things will go.