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    Honestly it’s a little how my mom talks when she gets upset. Just a stream of things that are loosely connected but are all bobbing along on the same river of emotion.

    It’s how I get stuff like “You never call me you call your cousin he’s cheating on his wife you know just because you broke up with your girlfriend doesn’t mean you have to take it out on me”. You can kind of see how there’s a shared feeling or theme there but it’s not articulated.

    I’m going to guess that for someone who produces output like that, input of that type goes in easily. They’re just vibing on the emotions.

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      It’s one thing all the parodies like SNL miss. Every mockery of him makes more sense than his babble, because you need things to make some sense to be funny for more than 90 seconds.

      “Covfefe” gives you what, two seconds of a joke? When you work it into something, that something ends up more coherent than actual Trump.

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    “This is the guy I want to represent my interests in international negotiations.”

    – 40% of Americans

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        Biden is too old, and I wish we would have ran someone else to aim for 12 years. His administration has done a pretty decent job with what they’ve been given to work with. Honestly, we need to give them enough margin to be able to legislate without enormous concessions.

        But when the alternative is gestures wildly that, this really shouldn’t be an open question.

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          For me age is irrelevant if they can do the job but it’s abundantly clear neither Trump nor Biden are capable. The reason I think age doesn’t matter is because someone like Bernie Sanders has been rock solid on his positions for decades and can still form convincing arguments. I’m sure we’d all love a younger candidate and I’d have settled for Andrew Yang but the radical idea of a universal basic income ensured the DNC pulled him off stage.

          The two party system has essentially guaranteed we will always be voting for the least damaging candidate and until we transition to ranked choice or abolish the DNC/RNC we’re just stuck right where we are.

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            me age is irrelevant if they can do the job but

            George Santos is young, Matt Venmo Gatez is young… I dont think being young automatically makes you a good choice for political office either

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      He just stumbles randomly from conservstive buzzword to Conservative buzzword without saying anything of substance. He’s literally the perfect candidate for them.

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      If he wins the world is lost. His “leadership” is indicative of the same disease that’s increasing everywhere. It’s worrying and it’s all coming from the “right” of the political spectrum. Wars are coming.

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        I’ve always had to remind myself and others of this. Trump isn’t the problem, not really. He’s just a symptom of the brain rot gripping the world at this moment.

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          I’m tempted to at least partially blame COVID but things were sliding this way long before then. I mean there are people out there simultaneously claiming that masks don’t work and also that they’ll choke you to death from lack of oxygen…people have grown real accustomed to tolerating cognitive dissonance.

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    An internal combustion engine came up to me, big strong internal combustion engine, tears in his eyes, and said “Sir, I want to thank for all you’ve done for this country, from the bottom of my spark plugs.”

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    They do believe the car thing. A relative of a friend told me she didn’t want Biden to take away her Honda CRV because she liked it so much. She seemed to think it was a nearly done deal, Biden’s coming to reclaim all fossil-fueled powered vehicles and make everyone buy electric cars. I didn’t ask for details.

    Of course, the Republicans are standing strong against this atrocity.

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      So this is the new “Obama’s gonna take all your guns!!1!” trope.

      Which of course he didn’t. Either of the times the GOP leaders said he would. And they knew it. It was just to create hysteria among their base.

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        Yep, though the gun manufacturers, via the NRA, probably drive that one. They LOVE it when a Democrat is in office because they can say that and watch gun sales rise.

        I’m convinced they also love shootings, or at least did, for similar reasons - I’m sure, for a while, gun owners worried this latest shooting might be the one that generates new restrictions on gun purchases, so out they went to buy. At this point I don’t think they have anything to worry about; we as a country seem to have decided mass shootings are Just Great, so that little fear probably doesn’t work as well any more.

        Let’s never forget the NRA’s solution to school shootings, after Newtown, was literally, “More guns in schools.”

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        Obama didn’t increase firearm restrictions, but Trump did with the bump stock ban. Which, incidentally, is due to be overturned by the Supreme Court this year.

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        It wasn’t for lack of trying though, because Obama did call for and back legislation to ban certain scary guns. Their attempts at the taking of guns simply failed the standard legislative process. Many of you probably weren’t of voting age at the time, but this process of attempting to take the guns actually did happen during the Obama presidency.

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          I was of voting age in 2008. Banning or heavily regulating certain types of guns is not the same as sending the national guard into every home in the US to search for and confiscate them, which is exactly what conservatives have been saying will happen for at least a decade now. Iirc trump banned some kind of bump-stock-adjacent device, but I don’t recall any gangs of roving feds going door to door to round up all the ones that have already been purchased.

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            Moving the goalposts, not allowed. I will return the discussion back to course.

            Banning of guns is what people generally think of as “$politician taking the guns” and is what drives 2A voters to vote against $politician. In the above discussion we were discussing Obama, and he did in fact do what I said he did.

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      I know why politicians claim it, because taking away something that belongs to someone is an affront to them the way “regulations requiring manufacturers to adhere to climate friendlier standards” isn’t, but it’s such an annoying instant radicalization people make.

      Finding out gas stoves cause a significant percentage of childhood asthma and some states proposing a subsequent ban on household gas in new builds only became “BIDEN WANTS TO MAKE YOUR GAS STOVE ILLEGAL”. Subsidies for electric cars became “BIDEN BANNING GAS CARS” etc etc.

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      Just raw economics will win them over long run. EV will be price parity at some point not in the too distant future. In those sunny southern state, where solar + EV is just such a clear win, the rolling coal inbreds just can’t not see it.

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      Depending on the generation of CR-V, I suppose - and without any hard math/stats despite how hard I’ve tried - I suspect the net impact of your relative driving it for the rest of its usable life vs buying a brand new EV to be significantly less, considering Lithium mining, curb weight, etc.

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      I don’t know, Musk has gotten to the point that he might actually match with the MAGAts against his own company and then fire half the staff for not defending the factory against him.

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      I don’t think he cares all that much about Tesla and probably sees the writing on the wall for the company. Its reputation is mud. He got what he needed.

      He’s on to the next thing, only using Tesla as a stepping stone to the next grift.

      Here’s my assessment of him -
      He started out exploiting people - His family used aparthied and slave labor to build their wealth.
      From there, he used his family’s wealth to woo/partner with engineers with good ideas.
      Then he moved into his business exploitation phase, using his lack of morals to claim ownership over the companies he founded with others ideas and sell them off (Zip2 and the first X . com).
      Using those proceeds, he entered the government exploitation game. Space X, which is held afloat by government grants. Or Tesla, which was also held afloat by government grants at first, and then later, largely by over-enthusiastic stock market investors, whom he began to experiment with manipulating.
      Naturally, he moved on to trying his hand at stock market manipulation in a big way. It’s where instead of making millions for himself and billions for companies (or billions in ‘assets’), he could have personally made actual billions in liquid cash. That’s what all the ‘will he, won’t he?’ was about regarding purchasing Twitter and its massive stock price fluctuations.
      But he got outfoxed by Twitter’s then-lawyers, and now he’s desperately trying every knob at his disposal, including Putin and Xi’s, in the hopes that his empire of grift does not collapse. It’s why he’s attempting to turn Twitter into an online bank (like the first X . com), and wants the husk of Twitter to cater exclusively to stupid and manipulable people - things he sort of knows, because he recognizes the mythos has been broken and he can’t pull the same confidence tricks.

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      None of this stuff is even in their own interests.

      It’s like the anti immigration people who don’t want to fund education. It’s H1B visa workers that will need to fill jobs in the future.

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      Not really. Tesla is aimed at libertarians, aka the conservative side that wants the cool toys from the left but only for the wealthy. For example, the Cybertruck is about making electric vehicles appealing to the more radical side. So it is a pickup truck, but not a too competent or practical truck, but that doesn’t matter. What it has to be is a shiny toy for assholes to LARP being a millionaire during the apocalypse. “It’s bulletproof!” being one of the stupid lies that he uses for marketing towards them.

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    All the talk about Biden being mentally unifit coming out of the Trump camp has to be pure projection. Trump is what, only 4 years younger? He’s had some gaffes just as bad imo

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      They’re both mentally unfit IMHO. One is a bit demented, the other is lucky that his dementia happens to help cover a pile of seething shit.

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        Biden isn’t a good person by any means but we’re literally comparing the next Hitler to Bill Clinton.

        Clinton got a blowjob and got impeached. Trump fucked a hooker and no one gave a single fuck.

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          Bill Clinton is only 77, WTF why is our current president 81 when the former president 30 years ago is currently younger???

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            Clinton (and Obama, for that matter) were exceptionally young presidents.

            Clinton was the youngest president at the time of his induction since Kennedy (Kennedy was also the youngest President at the end of his term for other reasons, namely because it was the youngest a President had ever died, if that makes sense). JFK was the youngest since TR, who was the youngest ever, and Obama was only a year or so younger than Clinton at the time of induction.

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            really? genocidal?

            bibi is genocidal. biden is enabling. your hyperbole is showing.

            But you know what, enjoy trump then, I’m sure that’ll go much better.

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              No giving Zyklon B to the Nazis while they are putting the Jews in gas chambers is not committing genocide, it’s enabling genocide!

              No Bibi isn’t committing genocide, he’s just ordering it. He’s not actually shooting Arabs!

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        Okay, but we have to pick the lesser evil senile candidate. We only have two choices. And even if a third party guy were to run, a vote for that guy would actually be a vote for one of the other two guys.

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          For sure. But the problem is systemic. Having to “vote for the lesser evil” is symptom of a “winner takes all”-election/governance.

          Throw in private interests in of the primaries candidate selection, add extensive private ownership of media coverage, and you complete the pretence of “by the people”.

          Either the US does a redo of the election process, or we’ll see if the next fascist coup attempt sticks or not. I suppose learning from history and Hitler’s initial failed coup, is a bit too on the nose. But, then again, had it happened in the US today, he wouldn’t have been put in jail for treason, and then might not have written Mein Kampf, and perhaps then also not manage to succeed in the second coup?

          It’s not like we’re repeating this storyline play by play. Hitler didn’t use the term “fake news” in an effort to undermine the function of the press and critical reporting… Because he spoke German, and they called it “große Lüge” instead.

          Oh well… shrug

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      That’s a rough 4 years. But Biden takes care of himself…Trump, well…doesn’t.

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        Whoa. I didn’t realize he was only projecting when he said:

        They’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. . . . They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.

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          I’ve had the thought that this is exactly why we mandate public education. Or at least we used to, before parents could just write a note to get out of it.

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            Fun fact… the original purpose of public education was to indoctrinate kids and suppress dissent while also making a (modestly) educated/useful workforce.

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        See? He tells it like it is! And what it is is that the debanking is trying to separate you from your country and that smell of toast we all keep smelling but no one else smells! Where is that ringing noise coming from???

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    Any other person saying this would be wheeled back into the old people’s home.

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      Which is exactly who he’s talking to, which is exactly the type of person that has the time to get out and vote when the time comes without really thinking about anything else.

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      That’s classic trump, honestly. It’s incoherent and insane, but not any different from the last decade.

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        He has gone downhill. Not since 2016–he was about as bad then as he is now. But if you look at his interviews from the early 90s, it was clear he could at least string three words together and make some kind of sense.

        Here’s an interview with him by Barbra Walters from 1990:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TwVCuPJrMw

        Skip ahead to the three minute mark. He uses some of the same phrases that he does today, like “people need to understand the press is incredibly unfair in this country”. It was clear back then that he was a scumbag, and Walters does not let him get away with his bullshit, but he can articulate a properly structured sentence.

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    Man, my Lemmy experience has been so much better after I added ‘Trump’ as filter keyword the Voyager app so I never see posts about that idiot again. And yet, here we are :-(

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      Aye. That guy overstimulated my brain by saying insane things every other day, every week straight for YEARS. Was in quite the stimuli-dump when he quit being front and center.

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        Why do his ramblings have to be reported so much, even here on Lemmy? Yes we know he’s a raging lunatic, no we don’t want to hear his latest vocal diarrhea. If he ever recovers, or dies, now that would be newsworthy.

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          There’s a good chance he’ll be the next president, so it’s important to listen to him to know what to prepare for, IMO. In this example, it shows he’s probably going to remove all incentives for EVs, and force banks to service far-right extremist groups.