Shocked Pikachu face meme.

    • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
      339·
      10 months ago

      I didn’t have a “tantrum” when they blocked my 3rd-party app for corporate reasons… I just stopped using Reddit.

      • DillyDaily@lemmy.worldEnglish
        110·
        10 months ago

        Exactly, I didn’t have a tantrum. I used a third party app because of the accessibility features it offered that the official app doesn’t. I can’t use reddit now, so I don’t use reddit.

        • jaybone@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14·
          10 months ago

          Just curious, what app do you use for Lemmy?

          I’m using Memmy on iPhone which has some good text size accessibility settings. But there’s some buggy stuff and I don’t think they’ve released any fixes or updates in a few months.

          • narp@feddit.deEnglish
            31·
            10 months ago

            I think Voyager is based on the famous iOS reddit app (Apollo?) and is regularly updated. Looks really polished and I’m also using it on android next to sync.

          • DillyDaily@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            10 months ago

            I’m using sync at the moment, I don’t dislike it but there is room for improvement. I have very low accessibility needs. I have palsies in my hands so for me it’s about having nice big icons to tap, because I don’t have the dexterity to push tiny text links or really cramped hit boxes.

            My phone GUI is enlarged and sync is just the first third party app I found that scaled well with my phone, most third party apps work for me, it’s just the reddit official app that really, really doesn’t. It’s unreadable with my GUI settings.

          • SocialEngineer56@notdigg.comEnglish
            6·
            10 months ago

            Hey! I was using Memmy as well, but stopped a couple weeks ago since the developers aren’t doing much on there (no shade to them - it’s a free project so I appreciate what they did at all!). I recently switched to Voyager and it’s been seamless and appears to be better supported.

            Voyager still has some slight bugs but it’s pretty good

          • alp@lemmy.zipEnglish
            3·
            10 months ago

            Eternity. For me, this app is the only one without significant problems.

            • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              10 months ago

              I tried Eternity but uninstalled it when I realized that it would just go back to my homepage if I switched away from the app for any reason. I’m using Liftoff at the moment but it’s got its own problems. I might try Voyager some time.

              • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                3·
                10 months ago

                Never encountered that bug on Eternity but I would suggest making a bug report for that issue on the page for Eternity so they might be able to fix it.

                Liftoff is on it’s last legs, once the last 0.18.5 instances make the upgrade to 0.19 it’ll almost certainly be unusable. Dev isn’t active anymore so I wouldn’t count on an update to fix it either, at least not any time soon. He also said he doesn’t have much experience with auth so even if he does get back to it it could take him a while to re-implement login.

              • alp@lemmy.zipEnglish
                1·
                10 months ago

                I just experimented your observation and the behavior is not the same. Are you sure it isn’t your settibgs?

      • jaybone@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        10 months ago

        So now they are pushing the narrative eight months later that people left in a tantrum?

        The fact they still talk about that over there says a lot.

        • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
          26·
          10 months ago

          A popular theory is that a lot of bots were deployed to make the exodus seem less impactful. So, officially the numbers might be similar, but I’m sure there’s less real content and people…

      • fatalError@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        11·
        10 months ago

        Me too, I did most of my redditing on the phone. So the only redditing I do these days is when on desktop looking for various hardware recommendations, cause unfortunately I don’t know how to search lemmy that well

        • JJROKCZ@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10·
          10 months ago

          Lenny is also just missing the decade of pcmasterrace and other pc hardware sub content. It might get there in time but for now Reddit is still a font of information and advice from knowledgeable people.

            • Norah - She/TheyEnglish
              6·
              10 months ago

              On Reddit, if a comment is removed by admin or moderators, it displays [removed]. [deleted] means the user themself did it. I’d imagine what you’re seeing is people like myself, who used scripts to delete all of our comments from the site.

    • Toribor@corndog.socialEnglish
      125·
      10 months ago

      Exactly. It’s like hey… If the corpos take a dump in your mouth you can either leave or you can stick around and complain about the taste. And yet the people who left are the whiners?

    • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
      113·
      10 months ago

      “Sure, 90% of the sub voted for this and the reasons for shutting down are clearly laid out, but y’all are doing this for literally no reason. Stop throwing a tantrum and give me my memes NOW.”

        • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
          38·
          10 months ago

          I think what really bothered me about that whole affair, and why I had my single worst outburst on Discord by a large margin as well that I still feel bad about, was because it was so frustrating seeing so many people who didn’t just disagree with us - I can handle disagreement, I can handle discussion and debate, I can even handle a little heat throughout that process. But people would just storm onto the Discord or the sub absolutely fuming and accusing us of all these things…but within two sentences, you can tell they hadn’t read a single post about the issue! Not one sentence or article!

          They were asking the most basic questions, my favorite being “what is this even about? It’s not like you have a reason.” It was insulting really. Here we were spending all this time and effort worrying about the community, Reddit, how to do this in the most fair way possible and produce what we believe to be the best outcome (or at least the outcome the community wanted in the end), and these people couldn’t even read three sentences before screaming at us and calling us names.

          People just were not having it, they did not want to even talk about it. And this was just a sub for discussing video games.

          • pbjamm@beehaw.orgEnglish
            17·
            10 months ago

            people would just storm onto the Discord or the sub absolutely fuming and accusing us of all these things…but within two sentences, you can tell they hadn’t read a single post about the issue! Not one sentence or article

            This reminds me of when I used to take the time to discuss/argue climate science online. I kind of quit after too many instances with aggressive people who had not bothered to educate themselves on even the most basic science.

        • theangryseal@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          10 months ago

          I’m glad I figgered it oot. All I miss are the video subs. I can live without them.

          YouTube can’t get it right, I watched one video about police brutality 15 years ago and now they think I just want to watch people get pummeled by cops all day and be mad about it. I can’t just go subscribing to a community with content I like on there, gotta subscribe to individuals and hope the right stuff rolls in. I just don’t watch many videos these days.!

  • Facebones@reddthat.comEnglish
    313·
    10 months ago

    Surely, attacking the mods of a community and calling them whiny babies will get you what you want, right?!

      • don@lemm.eeEnglish
        95·
        10 months ago

        I’m a motherfuckin user. I log onto this website sometimes. That means I dictate when you shit and for how long. Just be glad your breathing is out of my control. For now.

      • Facebones@reddthat.comEnglish
        66·
        10 months ago

        People have gotten fucking insane with this “Everybody should do exactly what I think they should do at all times full stop and if they don’t they’re literal fucking garbage, and if you disagree or care about a different thing than me you’re just a whiny baby whining about baby stuff” mentality.

        I’m a lefty, and it’s an election year which means I get to deal with this for 10 months straight from the dems.

      • kratoz29@lemm.eeOPEnglish
        26·
        10 months ago

        I never fully understand that, is that an insult? English ain’t my first language and I was honestly not sure if I felt offended by that lol, I swear I looked for it on the web, but it wasn’t clear for me either.

        • loobkoob@kbin.social
          88·
          10 months ago

          “Landed gentry” was a social class of people who owned estates and, well, land. They didn’t have to work; they made their income by profiting off the work of the farm hands, merchants, etc, who worked on their land. The estates these landed gentry owned, along with their wealth, would be passed down to their children when they died. It meant the gentry did very little to earn their station in life, but still had a fair amount of power and wealth.

          How spez thinks it applies to Reddit mods, I’m not entirely sure. But he definitely meant it as an insult. His full quote was:

          And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.

          So I guess he was upset that mod teams get to select who else is a good fit to join the mod team? Of course, the issue is that he is the landed gentry - users didn’t vote for him, nor can they remove him; and he’s profiting off the work of the people who post content and the people who spend their time moderating.

          • db2@lemmy.worldEnglish
            43·
            10 months ago

            Right wing turds like Steve tend to project really hard and never have the capacity to realize it.

          • Aceticon@lemmy.worldEnglish
            24·
            10 months ago

            It’s interesting that he’s using an insult from England and in a context which would make him Royalty trying to control the Barons.

          • Corgana@startrek.websiteEnglish
            16·
            10 months ago

            He has to just be riling up the “freeze peach” crowd with that line. He must know that a “users vote” way of selecting mods is always going to be a race to the bottom in terms of diversity and quality as nobody with a unique vision is going to subject themselves to the will of a bunch of reddit-brained people.

            When I was part of the Vaxxhappened protest I came to the realization that pretty much all mods of big communities are not “power happy” autocrats, but on the whole surprisingly weak-willed and living in a perpetual fear of getting removed. It was sad, but I have to imagine Reddit Inc is very happy with the arrangement. These people are working 24/7 for free, on one of the many indistinguishable feeds of memes. I was very surprised the API protest happened to the degree it did at all.

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          10 months ago

          It’s an insult. It’s basically saying “these people are powerful and out of touch and have no right to it”. As opposed to the reality that yeah there’s mod abuse, but also it’s a thankless job that sucks but you keep doing it because you care about the community and when you ease up you get criticism, when you crack down you get criticism, and when you try to be transparent you spend so much time writing out why you made a decision that you hesitate to actually moderate and also you wind up getting dragged into arguments over the validity of one of three fucking rules because they didn’t like that specific rule that couldn’t be clearer. And no matter what you do you’re going to get abuse in the modmail.

          • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
            15·
            10 months ago

            Yeah, the problem is that the subs used to be the only place on the internet where a given community could be mainstream, so being in a position of power means you’re stuck trying to make everybody happy.

            On federated networks you can have multiple communities with the same local name coexisting, so if you don’t like one set of mods you can go elsewhere. I’m not saying that solves all the problems, but it takes off the pressure of being the piracy sub mod.

            • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
              5·
              10 months ago

              Yeah but breakaway communities existed then. Underscore, rename, different order… all this shit was there. You can have the same name now which is cool, but you always could have something close. It’s the community and users people care about and starting a new one is a pain in the ass

              • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
                6·
                10 months ago

                There’s a big advantage to having the sub with the most obvious name. If you want to talk about Canada you’re going to go to /r/canada first, not /r/onguardforthee.

        • Paradachshund@lemmy.todayEnglish
          10·
          10 months ago

          To give you some background on the term, it refers to rich land owners in England who had a lot of inherited wealth through the estates they owned (landed, meaning they own land). These “gentry” generally led lives of leisure and wealth, but they didn’t actually do anything, they just inherited it all through their family wealth and land ownership.

          I’m sure I have details of that a little off, but that’s my best explanation of it.

      • EnderMB@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        10 months ago

        I used to be a mod at /r/soccer, and it was a great way for you to lose faith in humanity.

        We saw it all, racism, death threats, insults, even an instance where one user found a mod’s place of work and stalked them. We also had one guy that was obsessed with a footballer spam the sub with bots for several days, because he wasn’t allowed to post whatever he liked. It took the admin’s three days to fix…

        More often than not, it was people that didn’t read the rules, and got upset that all subs didn’t run on the idea that “if people upvote it, it’s allowed”.

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          10 months ago

          Yeah that sounds about right. I used to moderate trans and lesbian subreddits. It was …not good for my mental health. Leniency in rules allowed for people to post bigoted shit that sat right on the border or sounded like it might. Strict wording in rules meant that people would toe the line. Us having to explain why we removed things (it was an experiment one sub I moderated tried for like a year) resulted in an absolute shit show because there are more people who want to be assholes than mods and the more stressful moderating is the higher the turnover. I distinctly remember one night being out at a bar with my now ex and her friends and trying to write up my reasonings for someone who was obviously breaking a rule because she disagreed with the rule but she was challenging every decision and we had to give so many chances and allow appeals and she was ruining my night, and I was acutely aware that she could just hop to a new account when she was done. Also we had mod drama.

          • limelight79@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            The “legal eagles” are best ignored. Just ignore them. Most of the time they’ll just stop if you ignore them, because they want you to argue with them.

            • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
              6·
              10 months ago

              Absolutely but my attitude eventually shifted to “this is a small Internet forum, you want to be a jackass do so elsewhere.” I always tried to find a form of balance because I did care about the users. But the balance did rely on gut feelings, perception, and how willing to put up with your shit I was. I spent most of my 20s doing this shit and yeah it feels wrong to say “if you’re a rude asshole in response to a mod decision you don’t like you’re less likely to get a favorable response” but also yeah the time it took to read an essay berating me was time I could spend on literally anything other than helping the person who wrote it and I did the thing of giving even those people the benefit of the doubt every time and turns out it was a waste of time because further investigation tended to reveal that the person was either a troll, an asshole who had a net negative impact on the community and a tenuous grasp on the rules, or someone unstable enough that they didn’t need a forum, they needed a support group with professional oversight.

              But yeah when someone messaged me that one of the mods had been saying things that were inappropriate for a moderator of that community to say I spent months helping oust them and she and I are now actual friends.

              I’ll also add that good moderation was a challenge because in my experience there’s four kinds of people who moderate: people who recognize it as a volunteer hobby and maintain an external life, people on a crusade, people who do their best but aren’t doing good mentally and probably need to be making major life changes, and bright eyed idealists. The first are what you want and the rarest, the second are a problem that you have to weed out because they become petty tyrants, the third can be ok or can be petty tyrants, and the fourth are the most common and they burn out in a month to three or rarely become one of the others. It’s hard to tell who will be which.

              • limelight79@lemm.eeEnglish
                2·
                10 months ago

                I’ve moderated many online forums going waaaay back (farther than I’d like to admit actually). I agree with you, and I want to explain decisions to the users too, so I’ll generally try to talk them as well. And sometimes we get a connection, and sometimes I realize I made a mistake. But in my experience, when they start playing lawyer, you’re not going to please them.

                I never thought about the four categories of mods before, but what you wrote feels pretty accurate. I think I’m in that first group, and I try to avoid issues by moderating as lightly as possible.

                When I’m in other groups or communities, sometimes I think, “If someone did that in my group, they’d get one warning, then I’d just ban them the second time it happened. Boom. End of discussion.” But I know that’s likely not how it would go in reality. LOL

          • Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            I would have suggested just ignoring it for 12-36 hours. She could have waited, or another mod could have handled it.

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comMEnglish
    285·
    10 months ago

    Love how they bellyache about the mods not doing a good enough job when they spent the final weeks of the June protest harassing the existing mods and and basically dismissing and disrespecting all the work we were doing for the past decade. They just expected things to go back to business as usual and the mods should just shut up and continue doing unpaid janitorial duties for the benefit of spez out of sheer momentum I guess? The scale of their entitlement is unreal.

    • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      118·
      10 months ago

      Yeah, that was part of the reason I decided to leave. I mean, it wasn’t the only reason by far, but just another item to snowball into the “fuck this platform” that pushed me to leave.

      The number of people that actively told me I was dumb, abusing power, and my moderating could be done by anyone was crazy.

      Then they bitched about the moderation quality going down when 50% of the moderation actions walked out the door.

      • Corgana@startrek.websiteEnglish
        51·
        10 months ago

        I always laughed when someone called us a “janitor” after we banned them. Like you understand in this analogy you are the trash being taken out, right?

        • lukini@beehaw.orgEnglish
          6·
          10 months ago

          It’s probably just because janitor is the term for a low level mod on 4chan.

  • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.ccEnglish
    232·
    10 months ago

    “If you don’t like spez decision, then just open up the sub and leave!”

    Mods left

    “Where is all the mods?”

    “They’re just butthurt they didn’t get any support hue hue hue”

    Internet is a funni place.

    • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
      49·
      10 months ago

      I’ll be honest here: it was pretty fun to respond to people going “well if you hate it here so much, then just leave!“ with “I did, check the sidebar.” I stuck around for a few days after to help the mods with a few unruly threads, banned a few problem users on a different sub I was just sick of, then left forever.

  • madcaesar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    164·
    10 months ago

    Piracy mods are few of the mods with a backbone that actually left reddit because of all the bullshit.

    • agitatedpotato@lemmy.worldEnglish
      35·
      10 months ago

      A lot of the sports sub mods I frequent put up a hard fight and many just walked away. The change in those communities has been noticable. Especially since they can no longer use API to import clips as they happen, engagement and content is way down. There used to be highlights for days, just automatically.

    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
      33·
      10 months ago

      Shout-out to the /r/Sysadmin mods who decided subreddit uptime was too important to partake in the blackout. Man that place just had a really toxic tone and really made me strongly want to avoid the Sysadmin career track

      • JJROKCZ@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        At least here I don’t have to read /u/crankysysadmin telling everyone they’re entitled and need to do better work and ignore their personal problems in every thread

    • fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      It was pretty funny when push came to shove and they all pulled their heads in. “Well if I don’t do what they’re saying they might remove me so I have to do what they say for the good of the community”. That’s… not how that works.

  • Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
    160·
    10 months ago

    Don’t they understand the mods leaving is a consequence of that “tantrum”?

    • Eezyville@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      155·
      10 months ago

      They’re clearly using shaming tactics. By calling it a “tantrum” they try to make those mods look childish. In reality the mods demanded something to make their jobs easier, the company refused, so they parted ways.

      • baseless_discourse@mander.xyzEnglish
        122·
        10 months ago

        Not “job”, these are “volunteering contributions”, that are not only time consuming, mentally consuming, and unpaid as well.

        • meep_launcher@lemm.eeEnglish
          115·
          10 months ago

          Hello, I’m meep_launcher, and I’m a recovering moderator.

          Not only did my tools get taken, after the mass exedus, my mod queue exploded. There were so many more racist reports than before, and I was mod of a political satire subreddit.

          Turns out the exedus took all the left leaning redditors leaving behind real pieces of work.

          Glad I made the switch, and I set up cartographyanarchy here, so maybe I can get back to doing what I love, shitposting maps.

          Shitpost maps with me!

          One more edit, I want to get this community up and running, so if you post in the next 24 hours I will write your map a song and post the link in the comments.

          Oh also DM if you want to be a mod! Definitely looking for folks skilled in the art of Lemmy, coding, or just being all around wholesome.

          • ashok36@lemmy.worldEnglish
            35·
            10 months ago

            I can get back to doing what I love, shitposting maps.

            Nature is so strange and beautiful.

          • root_beer@midwest.socialEnglish
            21·
            10 months ago

            Psh, nice shameless plug for your community bro

            …to which I’ll subscribe as soon as I can

          • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
            17·
            10 months ago

            Dude the name alone sounds awesome

            edit: I want to post this map but its complaining that the content type isn’t html. I don’t really see the purpose of linking a webpage when linking directly to the image will allow it to properly embed? Not sure if that’s an instance limitation or a community limitation but it seems like not the right choice for meme communities

            • baseless_discourse@mander.xyzEnglish
              8·
              10 months ago

              Finally, the rail system U.S. deserves, old, loud, slow, never on time, and is under maintenance EVERY! F**KING! WEEKEND!

            • meep_launcher@lemm.eeEnglish
              3·
              10 months ago

              I’ve just been uploading to imgur and then posting the direct link. Lemm.ee won’t allow direct image uploads, so we kinda need to Jerry rig it for the time being. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

              • baseless_discourse@mander.xyzEnglish
                3·
                10 months ago

                After Reddit, Xitter, and Duolingo, I start to feel like hosting our work on a proprietary and profit-driven service is not a great idea.

              • meep_launcher@lemm.eeEnglish
                1·
                10 months ago

                I just made it a few weeks ago and finally am getting around to sort of starting things up!

                Thank you so much for joining! It makes my day :)

              • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                10 months ago

                Tried clicking on that link, got this error…

                The server returned this error: FetchError: invalid json response body at [Redacted]. This may be useful for admins and developers to diagnose and fix the error

                I’m assuming you were trying to link to here?

                • CallumWells@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  3·
                  10 months ago

                  Like Trainguyrom wrote, you’re probably the first user on your instance trying to access it. Try the link again. It’s the proper way to link to communities using Lemmy. Your link doesn’t give people on other instances the easy option to subscribe to the community.

                  EDIT: Interestingly enough it looks like someone went through the first page of my profile and downvoted each comment of mine. Hmmm, how very strange ;P

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      13·
      10 months ago

      Probably not, I doubt they even understand what the fuss was even about and are now wondering why quality has gone down so much and why subs are becoming full of spam and reposes.

  • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
    107·
    10 months ago

    Seems like the way for reddit to “solve” this is to just close bad subs.

    But that’s easily exploited, if people migrate to other subs and start protesting the sub closures, those subs get worse and they need to be closed…

    Oh no, reddit, did you just discover that you relied on your users to make your site good and by screwing them over you’ve made your entire business unsustainable at scale?

    Also, somewhat related, is there a short snappy name for lemmy communities? Some people call them subs out of habit but I don’t wanna do that, and “communities” is four whole syllables, and ain’t nobody got time for that.

    • FaceDeer@kbin.social
      57·
      10 months ago

      Kbin calls them “magazines”, which has the advantage of being only three syllables but has the disadvantage of being a dumb name for them.

        • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.caEnglish
          18·
          10 months ago

          I’d adopt “zines” expressly to overuse it, make people cringe and demonstrate just how dumb it sounds. “mags” just makes me think of guns

            • Bo7a@lemmy.caEnglish
              5·
              10 months ago

              I have never had a comment make me feel this old.

              -Signed, an old man who used to publish zines in the early 90s.

              • root_beer@midwest.socialEnglish
                4·
                10 months ago

                I’m not old enough to have published zines but I am old enough to know what they were, and I think it is actually a pretty apt name for it

    • survivalmachine@beehaw.orgEnglish
      41·
      10 months ago

      “solve”

      to make your site good

      unsustainable

      I think you’re misunderstanding reddit’s goal. Over the past year, they have been in IPO mode. They don’t care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community. They want to cash out and are burning down any structures that are providing any resistance to that.

      • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.caEnglish
        18·
        10 months ago

        Hopefully it costs them dearly. Kinda like the whole Tumblr censorship fiasco and drastic fall in value but before they sell it. Put #FuckSpez in the poor house

        • fuwa@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          6·
          10 months ago

          Why do you care how it turns out financially for reddit? The outcome I’d wish for is that more people come to lemmy

          • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.caEnglish
            15·
            10 months ago

            Because I was generally enjoying Reddit before being forced out by the API crap. I’m a creature of habit so tend to dislike change and as much as I’m generally liking Lemmy, I’m having to force myself to not check the app every time I get bored because I’ll just see the same posts 20 times in a day thanks to the relatively low level of interaction on the platform currently. Whenever I go looking for tech support online, it’s nearly always a reddit post from 2-8 years ago that has the answer but I don’t want to spend any amount of time on the site, particularly if I’m on my phone at the time since it means doing that annoying step of having to manually change “www” to “old” to make the site functional and readable. I guess I’m just feeling vengeful at yet another good (or some approximation of) thing ruined by yet another money-grubbing, power-hungry, self-important tosser.

            Though I see what you’re saying… ish. I think at this point, we aren’t going to see a massive influx of users without the death of competing platforms like Reddit since there are enough people either happy to keep taking the punches or think sunshine shines out of Spez’s asshole. Frankly, we can do without the second kind of person but the first won’t do anything without a certain amount of persuasion and I reckon the sinking of the ol’ Reddit ship would be just enough of a toe-capped-boot up the nether regions to persuade.

            Edit: grammar whoopsies

      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
        13·
        10 months ago

        You’re right, they aren’t trying to make something sustainable. I guess I was giving them too much credit when I said that.

        The problem they’re facing here is that if they can’t sustain even the appearance of a functioning site that investors might want to buy, then they fail at that too.

        So maybe the best way to fix this is just to ride it out and not close the subs, but if they’re just full of users that have finally clocked why mods are needed and that the place sucks now, that’s also a bad look.

        If the search engines start to realise that it’s a cesspit with nothing worth linking to anymore, then that really hits their metrics. I’ve just realised I really need to get onto downloading my posts and deleting them.

      • Fishbone@lemmy.worldEnglish
        28·
        10 months ago

        “Any recommendations for good cummies here?”

        “I usually start my day just laying in bed and checking out new cummies”

        “It’s unfortunate that niche cummies don’t always have the support needed to stick around. I’ve seen great cummies wiped away before they could really build any volume up.”

        “It’s so often overlooked, but proper handling of cummies is really what keeps them enjoyable day after day.”

        Yep, I see no fault with the naming scheme here. Really rolls off the tongue well too. Very palatable. Definitely not absolutely cursed.

        • AceCephalon@pawb.socialEnglish
          13·
          10 months ago

          Totally not completely cursed, and those example sentences absolutely didn’t make me regret being literate.

    • Willy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      34·
      10 months ago

      Subs still works in my mind. Subdirectories of all, or subscriptions… whichever way you want to think of it. I never really thought of subs as short for subreddits though, that was just convenient marketing based of those same terms.

    • x4740N@lemmy.worldEnglish
      29·
      10 months ago

      They are called “lemmy communities” or “communities”

      “Sublemmies” is cringe and is some weird portmanteau with subreddit which is stupid because I don’t know why people are still attached the idea of subreddits since this isn’t reddit and “lemmings” which some users like to call lemmy users but I don’t agree with that either and “lemmy users” sounds like a better term to use

      So many people here are trying to emulate reddit when this isn’t reddit, yes some features from reddit would be nice like a group collection of subreddits like multireddits did and post flairs but this still isn’t reddit

      • django@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        21·
        10 months ago

        A short name for communities would be groups. I like to call the users fedizens, as it is not specific to one software.

      • occhineri@feddit.deEnglish
        8·
        10 months ago

        …and “lemmings” which some users like to call lemmy users but I don’t agree with that either and “lemmy users” sounds like a better term to use

        This is just how communities work: people will find names for things and other people are reproducing them if they like the term.

    • Obi@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      13·
      10 months ago

      I’ve seen “Lemmies”, I’ve also seen “sublemmies” which brings “subs” back on the table imo. Alternatives are /c/s, commus, com’s, etc.

      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
        12·
        10 months ago

        I guess “subs” isn’t exactly a reddit specific term. I don’t even know if it started there tbh.

        I’ve just realised there’s nothing wrong with taking some of the language they used, we are after all following the basic link aggregator format.

      • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        10 months ago

        I like communities and sublemmies.

        Coms/commus sounds forced and unnecessary, doubt it’ll catch on.

        As for Lemmies, I think that should be a synonym for instances/servers. So, for example, the biggest Lemmy with the most sublemmies would be lemmy.world.

        And of course, the users are lemmings.

      • petrescatraian@libranet.de
        3·
        10 months ago

        @Obi /c/s is not long (albeit a bit complicated to write, on phone at least) and it could easily be expanded verbally, so you know that /c/s = communities.

        On Friendica, everything that is not a person or a page is displayed as a group. As a Facebook alternative, it does make sense, but for you in the Lemmy world I imagine it would sound a bit bland. 😁

        @Excrubulent

    • Machinist3359@kbin.social
      9·
      10 months ago

      I’d like the name to be “community feed” and “feeds” for short. Reddit was always essentially a collective rss with voting weights. In this way “subs” would still work since one subscribes to the feeds.

      Ultimately it’s something the devs need to encourage though

  • mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    77·
    10 months ago

    I like it here on Lemme. I feel pretty comfy. And most of you here are tech savvy. And if not, at least you have some level of basic true understanding of how technology works., Unlike those impostor syndrome redditors. And I suppose it’s a plus that corporations don’t hunt us down for discussing piracy.

    • jackpot@lemmy.mlEnglish
      41·
      10 months ago

      the larger we get, the more it will get fucked by ai bots, corporations, and shitty content creators

      • TheFriendlyArtificer@beehaw.orgEnglish
        23·
        10 months ago

        The term, “enshitification” is getting bandied about a lot. But the bots and corporations are an inevitable part of capitalism. Make money at all costs, never be satisfied with what you have, and treat everybody that isn’t you like a stepping stone.

        Scammers and sociopathic c-levels are missing something fundamentally human. A complete lack of empathy. But this has always been a part of our species. The difference now is that we have a system that dramatically rewards that sickness. And that’s not even getting into how being able to be evil at scale is going to make the next few decades interesting.

      • EldritchFeminityEnglish
        18·
        10 months ago

        The best way to fight it is to simply be unmarketable as a community. This is how Verizon ended up having to sell Tumblr for less than 1% of the price they paid for it like only 3 years later. If the cost outweighs the benefit, fewer people will bother trying.

  • ProgrammingSocks@pawb.socialEnglish
    77·
    10 months ago

    What a goofy interpretation of that series of events. Reddit changes API which fucks over moderators -> mods protest and say if they can’t use these tools they can’t moderate -> when API restrictions come into effect, mods either leave over moderating being way harder now or basically not being able to mod

    Why is that final step so hard for this person to believe? All of Reddit moderation wasn’t lying to people for fun

    • kratoz29@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      15·
      10 months ago

      Why is that final step so hard for this person to believe? All of Reddit moderation wasn’t lying to people for fun

      You are so naive to believe they even were aware of step 1 lol.

      They just were mad at their favorite subreddits being closed against their will, that and just being inconsiderate pricks.

      What amused me back then is that in most of the subreddits I was subbed there were polls where mods were gonna act as the results said, (we were basically running against the time, so there were not very many alternatives for this kind of democracy, I add this note because many people were very mad and argued they never got to nor realize there was an ongoing poll lol) and more users approved to keep the protests and regardless these cunts were saying that this was mod’s power abuse lol.

    • Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      Also wasn’t the sub basically taken over by one mod who spends their time working their way into as many moderator positions as possible and then not doing anything with them? Looking at their post history they’ve made like a dozen posts in the last month and one of them was asking to mod another sub.

  • hangonasecond@lemmy.worldEnglish
    52·
    10 months ago

    See, you know Reddit is packed with bots when that shitty repost has 6000 upvotes and “does this sub don’t have mods” has 129.

    • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      29·
      10 months ago

      See, you know Reddit is packed with bots when that shitty repost has 6000 upvotes

      This shitty re-repost on Lemmy has 1020 upvotes.

      “does this sub don’t have mods” has 129.

      Quoting the poet Bill Foster: “Well, maybe if you wrote it in fucking English, I could fucking understand it.”